AON Posted March 8, 2020 Author #91 Posted March 8, 2020 and once yet again... the more things change - 1828 bruce d, druxey, thibaultron and 3 others 6 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
AON Posted March 8, 2020 Author #92 Posted March 8, 2020 Let's take a relaxing cruise... it'll be fun! - 1828 bruce d, thibaultron, paulsutcliffe and 3 others 6 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
AON Posted March 8, 2020 Author #93 Posted March 8, 2020 okay, that's it for me. I will never drink another glass of water again. - 1828 paulsutcliffe, thibaultron, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
druxey Posted March 8, 2020 #94 Posted March 8, 2020 Curse those typographical shags!!!! lmagna, thibaultron, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
AON Posted March 8, 2020 Author #95 Posted March 8, 2020 1829 - I'm trying to imagine this (Ssssssssssssssh! I'm hunting waskily wabbits) druxey, bruce d, davyboy and 3 others 6 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
druxey Posted March 8, 2020 #96 Posted March 8, 2020 Contraband smuggled in by HM boats? Whose side were they on? mtaylor, AON, davyboy and 2 others 5 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
Louie da fly Posted March 9, 2020 #97 Posted March 9, 2020 As I read this, the revenue boats crept up on the (smugglers with) the brandy . . . Steven mtaylor, AON and lmagna 3 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
lmagna Posted March 9, 2020 #98 Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/8/2020 at 4:39 AM, AON said: okay, that's it for me. And they only called it a Gale? Boats sunk, people drowning, cranes falling, sounds more like a hurricane to me! mtaylor, bruce d, popeye2sea and 2 others 5 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
popeye2sea Posted March 12, 2020 #99 Posted March 12, 2020 On 3/9/2020 at 10:39 AM, lmagna said: And they only called it a Gale? Boats sunk, people drowning, cranes falling, sounds more like a hurricane to me! Aye, it were a fresh gale. Fit to tell a tale about. mtaylor and lmagna 2 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci
AON Posted March 12, 2020 Author #100 Posted March 12, 2020 The perfect scam in 1831. paulsutcliffe, mtaylor, druxey and 1 other 4 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
AON Posted March 13, 2020 Author #101 Posted March 13, 2020 a strange sailing regatta rule indeed - 1831 mtaylor, bruce d, paulsutcliffe and 1 other 4 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
reklein Posted March 13, 2020 #102 Posted March 13, 2020 Somebody say leeches? Made this box a few days back and it needed something. bruce d, AON and mtaylor 3 Quote Bill, in Idaho Completed Mamoli Halifax and Billings Viking ship in 2015 Next Model Shipways Syren
AON Posted March 23, 2020 Author #103 Posted March 23, 2020 More improvements? - 1829 Are these being built by transported convicts? paulsutcliffe, bruce d and mtaylor 3 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
Jim Lad Posted March 23, 2020 #104 Posted March 23, 2020 Never heard of that happening, Alan (fake news?). What newspaper is that? John mtaylor 1 Quote
AON Posted March 23, 2020 Author #105 Posted March 23, 2020 Sherborne Mercury- 14 Sept 1829 mtaylor and Jim Lad 2 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
iMustBeCrazy Posted March 23, 2020 #106 Posted March 23, 2020 8 hours ago, AON said: Are these being built by transported convicts? Apparently yes, I was aware of shipbuilding at Port Arthur but I assumed small vessels. It seems more likely that the 74 gun was probably built at Sarah Island in Macquarie Harbour on the west coast. http://www.ourtasmania.com.au/devonport/sarah-isld.html If I have it right, the shipyard was to the right of the bridge. A nearly completed Brig was stolen from there by 10 convicts and sailed to Chile but the amazing part is that they got it through 'Hells Gate' the entrance to Macquarie Harbour. https://viewer.slv.vic.gov.au/?entity=IE740422&mode=browse The entrance is just this side of the lighthouse. AON and mtaylor 2 Quote Craig. I do know, that I don't know, a whole lot more, than I do know. Current Build: 1:16 Bounty Launch Scratch build. 1:16 Kitty -18 Foot Racing Sloop 1:50 Le Renard HM Cutter Lapwing 1816 Lapwing Drawings Completed....: 1:16 16' Cutter Scratch build. Discussion....: Bounty Boats Facts
Bob Fraser Posted March 24, 2020 #107 Posted March 24, 2020 Would this have been the first case of a stealth vessel? 😃 mtaylor 1 Quote Bob Current build Cutty Sark, Mini Mamoli Finished King of the Mississippi No trees were harmed by this message, but an awful lot of electrons were put out.
AON Posted March 24, 2020 Author #108 Posted March 24, 2020 Craig Thank you very much for the confirmation and links. Fasinating reading as I've spent some time now transcribing post relating to the convict hulk Captivity, formerly the Bellerophon. Life on board the hulk was quite terrible but dear Sarah Island must have been hell on earth. bruce d, iMustBeCrazy and mtaylor 3 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
iMustBeCrazy Posted March 24, 2020 #109 Posted March 24, 2020 Ship building, Sarah Island 1832. The fence in the background is a windbreak the length of the island. lmagna, bruce d, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Craig. I do know, that I don't know, a whole lot more, than I do know. Current Build: 1:16 Bounty Launch Scratch build. 1:16 Kitty -18 Foot Racing Sloop 1:50 Le Renard HM Cutter Lapwing 1816 Lapwing Drawings Completed....: 1:16 16' Cutter Scratch build. Discussion....: Bounty Boats Facts
iMustBeCrazy Posted March 24, 2020 #110 Posted March 24, 2020 An account of Macquarie Harbour and Sarah Island: https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-1956722306/view?sectionId=nla.obj-1965094843&partId=nla.obj-1961882571#page/n40/mode/1up Continuation: https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-1956083842/view?sectionId=nla.obj-1959466639&partId=nla.obj-1956120316#page/n18/mode/1up AON and mtaylor 2 Quote Craig. I do know, that I don't know, a whole lot more, than I do know. Current Build: 1:16 Bounty Launch Scratch build. 1:16 Kitty -18 Foot Racing Sloop 1:50 Le Renard HM Cutter Lapwing 1816 Lapwing Drawings Completed....: 1:16 16' Cutter Scratch build. Discussion....: Bounty Boats Facts
AON Posted March 24, 2020 Author #111 Posted March 24, 2020 what happened to the trees? ah.. . they became ships. if this is high tide what happened in a full force gale wind and rain storm? mtaylor 1 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
AON Posted March 24, 2020 Author #112 Posted March 24, 2020 2 hours ago, iMustBeCrazy said: An account of Macquarie Harbour and Sarah Island: What a fascinating read! Thank you for posting this. mtaylor 1 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
iMustBeCrazy Posted March 24, 2020 #113 Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, AON said: they became ships. First they became a fence, did you notice the latitude of Macquarie Harbour? 42° South, that's roaring forties. 14 minutes ago, AON said: What a fascinating read! Thank you for posting this. You might like this one then, Port Arthur the main penal settlement. https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-1961910992/view?sectionId=nla.obj-1965082829&partId=nla.obj-1961946782#page/n26/mode/1up mtaylor 1 Quote Craig. I do know, that I don't know, a whole lot more, than I do know. Current Build: 1:16 Bounty Launch Scratch build. 1:16 Kitty -18 Foot Racing Sloop 1:50 Le Renard HM Cutter Lapwing 1816 Lapwing Drawings Completed....: 1:16 16' Cutter Scratch build. Discussion....: Bounty Boats Facts
AON Posted March 25, 2020 Author #114 Posted March 25, 2020 Thank you again Craig. It was a long read but very descriptive! I just kept going... as did it. followed by kangaroos, birds, caterpillars and the local dialects mtaylor 1 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
Tony Hunt Posted March 26, 2020 #115 Posted March 26, 2020 I'd be genuinely amazed if a vessel the size and complexity of a 74 was built in Tasmania (or anywhere in Australia!) in that period. It would have been a landmark achievement, yet I've never heard of it, and I'd like to think I'm fairly familiar with Australian maritime history. Quote
AON Posted March 27, 2020 Author #116 Posted March 27, 2020 Extreme measures in an extreme case - 1830 mtaylor, bruce d and druxey 3 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
druxey Posted March 27, 2020 #117 Posted March 27, 2020 So, 160 casks had to be emptied? Cheers! mtaylor and AON 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
mtaylor Posted March 28, 2020 #118 Posted March 28, 2020 12 hours ago, druxey said: So, 160 casks had to be emptied? Cheers! I doubt that there was an argument or a shortage of volunteers. AON 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
AON Posted March 28, 2020 Author #119 Posted March 28, 2020 Nothing is easily achieved - 1803 davyboy, mtaylor and bruce d 3 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
AON Posted March 28, 2020 Author #120 Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) The cruel sea - 1803 Edited March 28, 2020 by AON mtaylor, bruce d and lmagna 3 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
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