sfotinos Posted June 2, 2020 Share #1 Posted June 2, 2020 All, This is the start of my very first building log. My name is Shawn and I reside in Lincoln NE. I don't know if you call it building, but have been trying this hobby for probably 20yrs. The problems I run into are I seem to have 2 left thumbs and ham fists. The second has been I take the approach of it's good enough, even though I know I can do better. With this build I'm going to try the I know I can do better approach. We shall see. I use my modeling time as relaxation and therefore enjoy a few adult beverages, so that probably also contributes to my sloppyness. Currently I'm in the fairing stage, I will get some pics once there is something interesting to show. For now here are some obligitory pics. Shawn MEDDO, FrankWouts, JeffT and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share #2 Posted June 2, 2020 MEDDO, Ryland Craze, Wacom and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted June 2, 2020 Here you can see the ham fists in action...I used the binder clips as suggested by Chuck, but neglected to reinforce the last 2 bulkheads and now have repairs to do. FrankWouts, Wacom, Matt D and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted June 2, 2020 Share #4 Posted June 2, 2020 Great to see your build log Shawn. We have all been there with those bulkhead extensions. Its usually an easy fix thankfully. Looking forward to seeing more and refreshing to see another cherry version being made. Chuck FrankWouts and Edwardkenway 2 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldChur Posted June 2, 2020 Share #5 Posted June 2, 2020 Shawn, It is looking great. I am just getting ready to start this project myself. I hope mine will turn out just as well. FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldChur Posted June 2, 2020 Share #6 Posted June 2, 2020 Hey Shawn, I envy your build jig. Is that y our design or can I buy one somewhere? FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted June 3, 2020 OldChur, It is a purchased item, there have numerous posts about its building jig. In my option save yourself some money and create your own. Again many post about how to go about that. Shawn FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted June 3, 2020 Share #8 Posted June 3, 2020 Hi Shawn, Welcome aboard! I'm sure you'll enjoy building the Winnie. Don't worry about miss steps, we all could fill volumes confessing ours. Just take it slow and steady and continually check and recheck everything. Something I could do more of myself. FrankWouts 1 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share #9 Posted June 5, 2020 This hull is definitely a beast. Fairing still needs some touch up, though I would get the sills done first. JeffT, FrankWouts, Wacom and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rogers Posted June 5, 2020 Share #10 Posted June 5, 2020 Great job! FrankWouts and Edwardkenway 2 Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JpR62 Posted June 5, 2020 Share #11 Posted June 5, 2020 Superb ! Fairing seems really successful ! And yes, this hull has really nice curves! FrankWouts 1 Jean-Paul 'You are not carving a bear with a chain saw here folks', Chuck Passaro, ´Queen Anne Style Barge´ manual of instructions Current builds : Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model - 1:24 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 - Syren Ship Model Company - 1:48 Santa Maria boat 1492 - Korabel (Ukraine) - 1:24 Captain John Smith's shallop - Korabel (Ukraine) - 1:32 Finished build : Queen Anne Barge - Syren Ship Model - 1:24 Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways - 1:48 Batelina - MarisStella - 1:10 Next on list : HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Syren Ship Model - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted November 4, 2020 I haven't posted in awhile, much because I have outside honey do's... I have worked a little bit on my Winny, but I'm finding me questioning myself. If i could get a couple critiques it would be appreciated. I feel like maybe I went to far with my faring on frame 28? Maybe also 27? I'm just worried I didn't "leave enough meat on the bone". Any observations you may have would help greatly. Do I need to re-cut frame 28? Sorry if the pics are not the best. Shawn rafine, Ron Burns, Matt D and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted November 5, 2020 Share #13 Posted November 5, 2020 From the pictures it looks like you were a little to aggressive with the sanding. You can build the frame back up with stripe wood on the face if needed. I would wait until you've framed in the stern. Once that's done I would think it will give you better idea of just how much you are off. I hope this helps Archi, FrankWouts, sfotinos and 1 other 4 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyz Posted March 11, 2021 Share #14 Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) Welcome to the Winchelsea Project Shawn. Rusty gave you some good advice. If you aren't going to replace the frame I too would build up the edge with strip wood. On one of my earlier models I got exceedingly aggressive sanding a frame and had to make repairs. This is a problem that's not difficult to repair. Edited March 12, 2021 by wyz FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubbyj427 Posted March 12, 2021 Share #15 Posted March 12, 2021 I did the exact same thing on mine. I planked right over the frames and then added filler strips underneath to support the planks and glued it all together. FrankWouts 1 Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share #16 Posted June 21, 2022 I'm back at the Winni after sometime away. It's time to start fairing the transom and the instructions state to take down to 3/32. I for whatever reason cannot wrap my head around this. I have checked several other logs and really cannot come up with the answer I'm looking for. Do I take the whole transom down to the 3/32, or just from the filler pieces up? Any help or guidance would be appreciated. Thanks FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted June 21, 2022 Share #17 Posted June 21, 2022 Its a gradual taper to 3/32" thick along the top of the transom. This is so the cap for the transom is not huge and too wide which is what you see on many models and kits. The transom with at the cap should be narrow and elegant. Not wide and chunky....same is true of the cap shear along the sides of the hull. FrankWouts 1 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share #18 Posted June 21, 2022 Thanks Chuck! FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share #19 Posted July 6, 2022 In pictures and other build logs I'm seeing a couple pieces glued to the bottom of the lower counter. Presumably these will hold the planking at the stern. I'm having trouble finding these pieces in the instructions how these should be fitted. Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks Shawn FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted July 6, 2022 Share #20 Posted July 6, 2022 Its just any scrap wood. Its not laser cut....Use the 1/4 x 3/16 strips. They are just glued to the underside of the stern frames and faired. Yu can also use a balsa block....anything really. FrankWouts and sfotinos 2 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted July 6, 2022 Share #21 Posted July 6, 2022 Lots of ways to add these, I used balsa and shaped it as needed. They are essential though for terminating stern planking later. With the balsa I was able to make some minor adjustments as I was planking. sfotinos and FrankWouts 2 Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share #22 Posted August 2, 2022 For me this is a milestone. I had so much trouble visualizing in my head how to accomplish this part. Hopefully I didn't mess things up to bad. Still alot of sanding to do. Shawn Wacom, Edwardkenway, Chuck and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted August 2, 2022 Share #23 Posted August 2, 2022 It looks OK. Its hard to tell in photos if everything is lined up where its supposed to be but it looks just fine. Chuck FrankWouts 1 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted August 3, 2022 Share #24 Posted August 3, 2022 I cut out the gallery framing side profile from the plans and held it up as an overlay to check and position the framing locations. It helped me knowing I matched up with the plans. FrankWouts 1 Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share #25 Posted August 3, 2022 I did the same, and everything matches up. FrankWouts and glbarlow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share #26 Posted October 11, 2023 I've been trying to get back to this build, getting my juices flowing reading others logs. In doing this I have learned that somehow I have managed to get everything with the Transom incorrect. There is no outward curve and maybe even inward. Things don't seem to line up at all. Really don't know what I did, but my guess is the attitude of "good enough" has definitely crept in. After much consideration of how to get this fixed and corrected, I have decided I'm going to start over. Anxiously awaiting received my new frames and chapter 1 from Chuck. scrubbyj427, FrankWouts and Chuck 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankWouts Posted October 12, 2023 Share #27 Posted October 12, 2023 Hi Shawn, Is that really necessary? Apart from the dead flat transom, your Winnie looks okay to my eye! But a fresh new start maybe feels better for you. Frank. Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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