LMDAVE Posted June 5, 2020 Share #1 Posted June 5, 2020 I'm going through my father's attic for an estate sale and came across this old boat I remember him building back in the 80's when I was younger. I have no idea if this was scratch build he was doing or if he was modelling it after another boat. I would like to take on the task on completing and painting it, and just curious if anyone has any idea which boat this was and ideas I can look at to finish it. GrandpaPhil and mtaylor 2 Quote San Francisco II by Artesania Latina - Scale 1:90 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/11489-san-francisco-ii-by-lmdave29-artesania-latina-scale-190/ 1/80 J Class Endeavour Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/7058-endeavour-j-class-yacht-by-lmdave-amati-180/ 1/64 MS BLUENOSE http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/90-bluenose-by-lmdave-ms-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted June 5, 2020 Share #2 Posted June 5, 2020 I have no idea if it is modeled after this or not, but it made me think of this review I saw before immediately: mtaylor 1 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted June 5, 2020 Share #3 Posted June 5, 2020 Your father's model looks much larger, though. Perhaps he scaled up the Amati plans? mtaylor 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Salmson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMDAVE Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share #4 Posted June 5, 2020 It’s about 3’ long. I found the Ferrari Hydroplane Racer you shown also. I was thinking that maybe. But not sure on that whole upper “fuselage” meant for this one. But maybe I was. Just want to find something close to get ideas. mtaylor 1 Quote San Francisco II by Artesania Latina - Scale 1:90 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/11489-san-francisco-ii-by-lmdave29-artesania-latina-scale-190/ 1/80 J Class Endeavour Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/7058-endeavour-j-class-yacht-by-lmdave-amati-180/ 1/64 MS BLUENOSE http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/90-bluenose-by-lmdave-ms-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce d Posted June 5, 2020 Share #5 Posted June 5, 2020 There is a step in the hull of your boat that I don't see on the Italian hotrod. IIRC Model Boats magazine (and maybe Marine Modelling? ) published some hydro types back then as plans, maybe worth a look? mtaylor 1 Quote 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce d Posted June 5, 2020 Share #6 Posted June 5, 2020 Found this, It dates from the 1960's. https://aerofred.com/details.php?image_id=93530 ccoyle and mtaylor 2 Quote 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted June 5, 2020 Share #7 Posted June 5, 2020 Based on the labels in the model, this is from a kit. Maybe it's Miss Thriftway from Dumas, I don't know. Some work but can be fixed, would be nice to have as a memory of your father. mtaylor 1 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMDAVE Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted June 5, 2020 Thanks for what you all have found so far. I think the rectangle access panel in the front would be a good clue. I’m not looking to make it RC functional, but nice finished display, and yes would be a good tribute to my late dad. bruce d and mtaylor 2 Quote San Francisco II by Artesania Latina - Scale 1:90 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/11489-san-francisco-ii-by-lmdave29-artesania-latina-scale-190/ 1/80 J Class Endeavour Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/7058-endeavour-j-class-yacht-by-lmdave-amati-180/ 1/64 MS BLUENOSE http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/90-bluenose-by-lmdave-ms-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted June 5, 2020 Share #9 Posted June 5, 2020 I am sorry to say it's not Miss Thiftway from Dumas. The lines are wrong. Further investigation needed! LMDAVE and mtaylor 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnp76 Posted June 5, 2020 Share #10 Posted June 5, 2020 The Vintage Hydroplanes website may have some information. https://www.vintagehydroplanes.com/Blog/ LMDAVE and bruce d 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMDAVE Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted June 6, 2020 I checked that site, and still waiting for a response from them. I did come across something close, even though above they said this isnt Miss Thriftway, I found this Dumas Kit from late 60's that coincidentally was found half finished in an estate sale also. The is the link to it. But looking at the kit, then looking at my dad's boat, it almost follows the same lines, and I drew in yellow line from the slots to show this. But could my dad have possibly did something different on his own in the from section with the rectangle? Also, my dad's boat is 36" and this kit is 24", but could their be a version of "Thriftway too" that is 36". I do think this is close. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vtg-wood-dumas-thriftway-hydroplane-1834282033 BLACK VIKING and mtaylor 2 Quote San Francisco II by Artesania Latina - Scale 1:90 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/11489-san-francisco-ii-by-lmdave29-artesania-latina-scale-190/ 1/80 J Class Endeavour Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/7058-endeavour-j-class-yacht-by-lmdave-amati-180/ 1/64 MS BLUENOSE http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/90-bluenose-by-lmdave-ms-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMDAVE Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted June 6, 2020 OK, I think I found a winner on this, this has to be the kit. Miss Unlimited "Vintage American Junior Aircraft Miss Unlimited Hydroplane Kit", its 36" long and makes multiple boats. So my only thing now is to find another kit or try and scratch build the Cowl section with maybe planks and wood filler. But this has got to be the kit. EDIT: If not this kit, then Dumas made a Miss Unlimited also that may be the one. bruce d, VTHokiEE and mtaylor 3 Quote San Francisco II by Artesania Latina - Scale 1:90 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/11489-san-francisco-ii-by-lmdave29-artesania-latina-scale-190/ 1/80 J Class Endeavour Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/7058-endeavour-j-class-yacht-by-lmdave-amati-180/ 1/64 MS BLUENOSE http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/90-bluenose-by-lmdave-ms-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted June 6, 2020 Share #13 Posted June 6, 2020 I was looking at those pictures and didn't want to post them, it might be the Miss Thriftway too. Maybe the hatch was something your father created himself as for radio compartment. Hope the attic will turn up the missing box or plans. The plot thickens...😁 mtaylor and bruce d 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted June 6, 2020 Share #14 Posted June 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, LMDAVE said: OK, I think I found a winner on this, this has to be the kit. Miss Unlimited "Vintage American Junior Aircraft Miss Unlimited Hydroplane Kit", its 36" long and makes multiple boats. So my only thing now is to find another kit or try and scratch build the Cowl section with maybe planks and wood filler. But this has got to be the kit. So I was to late with my posting, lol, still glad you are getting closer to a conclusion. mtaylor 1 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMDAVE Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share #15 Posted June 6, 2020 Well, it looks like Dumas Miss Unlimited is the answer. You'll see in other's finished model the cutout. I just need to improvise on the upper section, and design my own color/varnish scheme. Will be a fun project to play with now that I know what I'm up against. lmagna and mtaylor 2 Quote San Francisco II by Artesania Latina - Scale 1:90 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/11489-san-francisco-ii-by-lmdave29-artesania-latina-scale-190/ 1/80 J Class Endeavour Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/7058-endeavour-j-class-yacht-by-lmdave-amati-180/ 1/64 MS BLUENOSE http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/90-bluenose-by-lmdave-ms-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce d Posted June 6, 2020 Share #16 Posted June 6, 2020 It looks like you are winning. Will you vac-form the superstructure? lmagna and mtaylor 2 Quote 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMDAVE Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share #17 Posted June 6, 2020 Looks like it's my lucky day! The estate lady just sent me these pictures asking if this is what I was looking for. She found it, Jackpot! Now I just need to assess the kit and start a build log picking up where this one left off. gsdpic, amateur, modeller_masa and 5 others 8 Quote San Francisco II by Artesania Latina - Scale 1:90 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/11489-san-francisco-ii-by-lmdave29-artesania-latina-scale-190/ 1/80 J Class Endeavour Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/7058-endeavour-j-class-yacht-by-lmdave-amati-180/ 1/64 MS BLUENOSE http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/90-bluenose-by-lmdave-ms-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted June 6, 2020 Share #18 Posted June 6, 2020 You better buy some lottery tickets! Even the canopy is there. Build log please! bruce d and mtaylor 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaddoc Posted June 7, 2020 Share #19 Posted June 7, 2020 What a great ending to the mystery! Indeed, please start a log and share your journey. mtaylor 1 Quote Current projects: 21' Fisherman's Launch - plans by Howard Chapelle Completed projects: 21' Yawl Longboat - plans from the National Maritime Museum Deben 5 tonner - a Whisstock yard design 24' exploration gaff rigged ketch - a Tad Roberts design 15' knockabout sailing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted June 7, 2020 Share #20 Posted June 7, 2020 What a lucky find! Glad the mystery is solved and that you can complete your father's model. mtaylor 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted June 8, 2020 Share #21 Posted June 8, 2020 Moved to correct forum area. mtaylor 1 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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