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This will be my first wooden ship, so I plan to follow the excellent instruction book provided by Vanguard Models and draw heavily on the build logs from Blue Ensign and VTHokiEE.

 

To start things off I felt a picture of what is in the box was appropriate. As this is my first kit I cannot comment on the quality of wood and parts as I have nothing to reference them against, but everything is well packed in sealed plastic bags marked up with numbers for easy reference.

 

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For a detailed review of the parts I would refer you to the excellent kit review by James H

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The instructions indicate that you should mark up the parts with their reference numbers before removal from the host sheet, so I did that for the bulkheads and keel then did a quick dry run to gauge the fit.

 

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The Bulkheads fit very snugly onto the false keel so combined with the lower deck should ensure a nice square build.

I dug out my French curves and drew the bearding line onto the false keel. It is recommended to sand this area down to 1.5mm thick to allow for the thickness of the planking.

In this version of the kit the sternpost is added after the planking allowing it to sit flush against the planking once it has been sanded down.

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I took a tip from Blue Ensigns log and used some paper strip on the false keel to gauge the depth to which the keel should be sanded back to.

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Then realising I was going to need a way of supporting the model I put together a temporary building board to support things during the early stages of the build.

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Next, I chamfered bulkhead 10 to the correct angle to match the top of the false keel.

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The bulkheads were then slid into place and the lower deck slotted over them before adding glue to secure everything.

Next the bow patterns were chamfered and glued in place followed by the securing patterns 12 and 14.

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I have deliberately left bulkhead 10 and the transom frames off for now as others have had breakages with these.

As the structure is now very sturdy, I am considering starting the fairing of the bulkheads and then adding the deck and transom frames before completing the fairing at the stern.

Current Build: HM Cutter Alert 1777

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

Before starting the fairing, I cut out a temporary cardboard deck to get a better impression of the deck curvature.

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I also created a jig to hold the structure steady whilst doing the fairing and planking. This was simply a piece of timber with two pieces of MDF glued to the sides. The MDF was cut to the sheer of the deck using the shape of the bulkhead securing pattern parts 12.

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I carried out the initial fairing as far back as possible.

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I found that at the bows the front of the bulkhead securing pattern part 12 required a significant amount of fairing to get a clean run with a test plank.

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Having done as much fairing as possible without the transom frames fitted, I then sketched out the run of planking for the deck and transferred it to the false deck to assist in planking later in the build.

Whilst doing this I noted that the kit provides 30 off 300mm lengths of boxwood planking and as 2 will be required for the rudder platform deck, I will have 28 remaining for the main deck.

The main deck however is 26 planks wide plus a bit so I will not have enough timber remaining to create a waterway as it is longer than 300mm on each side.

To get around this I have followed what BE did and have ordered a sheet of box from which to cut the waterway. This however is 1.5mm thick so will need some sanding down to the plank thickness of 1mm.

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The transom frames are aligned differently on their host sheet from what is shown in the manual, so I removed them and compared them to the drawing in the manual before marking on their part numbers. There are very subtle differences between the parts so close inspection is required. I have added a picture of the host sheet with the part locations for anyone else who may be building in the future. You will see that they are laid out in a logical fashion with 19 being the outer frames and 17 the inner.

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The transom frames have also been changed from the first edition as the ends are now 'L' shaped, rather than 'U' shape slots.

I found that the slots in bulkhead 9 for the outermost frames were a little snug, so I used a flat needle file to loosen up the fit.

I chose to slot the transom frames into the rear most bulkhead 10 and then slot that bulkhead in place whilst guiding the front ends into bulkhead 9.

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The transom frames have a slight splay on them which provides some challenges with alignment into frame 9.

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With a little squeezing however, they fitted in fine.

I then added the stern planking patterns (15) and finally the false deck. Which required a selection of clamps and any heavy items to hand to ensure it sat flat on the bulkheads.

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Once the deck had been fitted, I added the rudder platform bulkheads and finally the rudder platform and stern filling patterns.

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Fortunately, the weather has warmed up, so it is back out to the garage to complete fairing the aft bulkheads to ensure a good run for the planking.

 

Phill

 

 

 

Current Build: HM Cutter Alert 1777

Posted

Off to a nice start.

Current Build

18th Century Armed Longboat-Model Shipways

 

Completed Build

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Future Build

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Jeff Farber

Posted

After much sanding I think I have everything faired nicely.

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The next stage is to fit the keel and stempost but before doing this I checked to see if the two layers of planking would fit into the slot at the stem as others had noted they had trouble in this area.

I found that the two planks did not fit, and it appears to be because the first planking is 1.6mm rather than the designed 1.5mm. To overcome this, I increased the width of the slot until I could fit the first and second planking in and hopefully this will make things easier during planking.

The keel and stem were then glued in place.

I am now re-reading everything I can find on planking and watching Chucks videos before commencing with the next phase.

Phill

 

Current Build: HM Cutter Alert 1777

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

The first “master" plank is fitted 4mm down from the top edge of the bulkheads. I marked this position on all the bulkheads and then clamped a very thin plank to bulkheads 4 and 5 at the desired position. As this plank was bent around the bulkheads it was obvious that quite a lot of bending would be required to accommodate the sheer and the curve around the bows.

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You can see this at the bows. The finished plank should fit into the top of the rabbet slot in the stem.

To get an idea of how much bending is required I marked the position of each bulkhead on the test plank and measured the vertical distance from the desired position at each bulkhead.

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I took these measurements and transferred them onto an old bit of pine that would be used for bending and this gave me the desired final bend of the plank.

I then used these marks to overbend the plank and used a small iron to heat the plank using the methods explained by Chuck on his YouTube page.

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After the plank had cooled, I released it and was pleased to see that it came close to the marks I had originally made. I trial fitted it to the bulkheads and noted where more or less bend was required and then repeated the heating to get the correct shape. After refitting and getting the required curve I bent the plank for the other side and then the second plank for each side was bent to the same shape.

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With the planks now bent to take in the sheer it was necessary to apply some bend for the plank to run around the bulkheads and into the stem rabbet.

This was achieved by wrapping the plank around an old paint kettle and applying the iron again.

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With the planks shaped to fit as close as possible I fixed the first port plank using a spacer at the stem and plenty of clamps.

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Phill

Current Build: HM Cutter Alert 1777

Posted

I am slowly getting to grips with edge bending and bending the planks so that they sit easily on the frames. I found that cutting out a rough cardboard template of the plank provides a good basis on which to bend the plank initially.

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I prefer to get the plank seated naturally on the frames rather than force them and then rely on glue to keep them in position. This has resulted in the need to employ one or two odd items to assist in the bending.

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I have now fitted 5 planks to each side and will probably fit the garboard plank and its adjacent plank next and then recheck my tick strips to ensure my calculations are still OK before continuing with the planking.

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Phill

 

Current Build: HM Cutter Alert 1777

Posted

Thanks for the support Theodosius and Maurice and to everyone for the likes.
Theodosius, I found that I could apply the edge bend to a plank but when it came to adding some curve to go around the bows some of the originally applied edge bend would disappear.
The only way I found to reapply the missing edge bend was to use a saucepan and plenty of clamps.

As I use items in the house, I am now constantly appraising them for their possible use in plank bending.

 

Phill

Current Build: HM Cutter Alert 1777

  • 4 weeks later...
Posted

A bit of an update on progress so far.

I decided to fit the garboard strake and then work up from there as well as down towards it.

The garboard strake was quite narrow, and I ran it as far as the rabbet slot in the stem.

The next plank to the garboard strake required a lot of edge bending in order to fit into the slot. There are only 5mm Lime planks supplied but I found that by cutting the plank to make best use of the plank width I could create some bend into the plank before applying edge bending and thereby get a tight bend more easily.

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Plank as cut from stock shown before adding edge bending.

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I found that a large socket provided a useful former to create the additional bend.

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The subsequent lower planks were thinned down to just over the required width and the socket used again together with a soaking in boiling water to achieve the required bend. I thinned the plank width down for the first 2 bulkheads only which gave me the opportunity to cut off the end if the bending when awry and then restarted further down the plank.

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 I also found that cutting the planks out slightly oversize allowed me to sand down the inner edge to the final width and remove any element of misshaping that may have occurred during the bending.

 

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Progress so far with just 6 more planks either side to go now.

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Phill

 

Current Build: HM Cutter Alert 1777

  • 2 months later...
Posted

Due to spring finally arriving and the garden requiring many jobs time in the shipyard has been limited, but I have been busy recently fashioning planks and fitting them.

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Finally, the last pieces in the jigsaw are ready to fit into place.

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The first planking is now completed except for the top 4mm strake which I will fit once most of the scraping and sanding has been done as I am concerned it could get snagged during that process.

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Phill

 

Current Build: HM Cutter Alert 1777

  • 1 month later...
Posted (edited)

Thanks Maurice and to all for the likes.

 

To complete the first planking the stern must be reduced to about 2mm to accommodate the sternpost and allow space for the final planking.

 

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To achieve this, I cut out 2 packing pieces from the same material as the lower deck and rear transoms (2mm) and glued them onto the inner faces of transom parts 17. These will hold and support the top of the sternpost.

 

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I then cut out a false sternpost from the same material and together with some 0.5mm padding pieces at the top and bottom fixed it temporarily in position. This will be used as a marker to sand down the stern planking to the same 2mm width. As the stern post is 3mm and the second planking is 1mm thick this should leave enough for some light sanding of the final planking.

 

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I also attached two short lengths of limewood which were offcuts from the first planking to the sides of the keel and held them in place with bulldog clips.

 

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These pieces protect the keel during sanding and because of the notch in the rear of the keel held the foot of the false sternpost and actual sternpost in position.

 

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This allowed me to sand down the stern section and then slip in the sternpost to better visualise the gap left for final planking.

 

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I now just need to add the top 4mm plank to finish off the first planking.

 

Phill

Edited by PhillH

Current Build: HM Cutter Alert 1777

Posted

Thanks Thukydides,  I have tried to approach it as if it were a single planked model as a practice run for the second planking.

I used PVA only for the first planking but will have to try superglue for the second as there will be much less opportunity to clamp planks in place.

At the moment life is getting in the way of building so things are progressing slowly.

 

Phill

Current Build: HM Cutter Alert 1777

Posted

It's looking really good Phill. 

 

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Current Build Hayling Hoy 1760 - First POF scratch build

 

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Completed 18ft cutter and 34ft launch by Vanguard Models

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Posted

Thanks jpalmer1970 and RockinBudgie and to everyone else for the likes.

Whether to fit the side counter timbers as per the kit instructions or the ATOS drawings has me in a quandary at present, so I have been finding things to do to put off the decision.

I have been carefully using a few scalpels to scrape away at the garboard plank to provide a rabbet for the next layer of planking but cannot get a picture that looks like I have achieved anything.

I now need to get back to making a decision and jump one way or the other with the counter.

 

Phill

 

Current Build: HM Cutter Alert 1777

Posted
40 minutes ago, PhillH said:

I have been carefully using a few scalpels to scrape away at the garboard plank to provide a rabbet for the next layer of planking but cannot get a picture that looks like I have achieved anything.

Now you have me second guessing on how much I sanded away the garboard plank, given how much better your first planking turned out than mine I may go do another pass on trying to provide a rabbet for the next layer :).

Posted
34 minutes ago, Thukydides said:

Now you have me second guessing on how much I sanded away the garboard plank, given how much better your first planking turned out than mine I may go do another pass on trying to provide a rabbet for the next layer :).

I think the important thing to remember is that the second layer garboard plank sits next to the keel at the stern almost like another plank and then as you move towards the bows it is at a more acute angle which I am hoping can be achieved by chamfering the back corner of the plank.

Of course if the final finish will be painted then filler can always be used. I am just trying to get some practice at getting a good result for that day when I cannot rescue the planking with filler.

Here is a picture of my test piece of plank at the stern.

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Phill

Current Build: HM Cutter Alert 1777

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