GeorgeKapas Posted February 2, 2021 #1 Posted February 2, 2021 A model of Averof was in my mind for some time, but the resin kit from YS was really expensive. I dont have much experience with scratchbuilding, only kitbashing, so I decided that the best course of action was a small waterline diorama in a familiar scale. So 1/700 it is! I'll propably add photo etched railings so that will help. But needless to say the ship comes up quite small. All this because the Royal Louis kit is really tiring me out... The diorama will show Averof in Faliro as she is today. So, materials are foamcore, cardpaper, superglue balsa and melted spruce. I went for a simple bread and butter method (the ship is tiny) It will require a lot of filling and sanding though First steps vaddoc, BLACK VIKING, Edwardkenway and 8 others 11 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
ccoyle Posted February 2, 2021 #2 Posted February 2, 2021 Great start! mtaylor, Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
GeorgeKapas Posted February 2, 2021 Author #3 Posted February 2, 2021 Thank you. I'll post a few more: Progress on the various parts, the start of the forward tripod, and the concept of the diorama: A pencil for scale! lmagna, GrandpaPhil, Edwardkenway and 5 others 8 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted February 2, 2021 Author #4 Posted February 2, 2021 The tripod required some work: ccoyle, Old Collingwood, vaddoc and 8 others 11 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
Beef Wellington Posted February 2, 2021 #5 Posted February 2, 2021 This looks like a fascinating project, off to a great start! Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood, GeorgeKapas and 2 others 5 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)
GeorgeKapas Posted February 2, 2021 Author #6 Posted February 2, 2021 So here is the ship as she is currently KeithAug, mtaylor, yvesvidal and 6 others 9 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
lmagna Posted February 2, 2021 #7 Posted February 2, 2021 Excellent choice of ships and fantastic progress George. This ship is certainly unique. Not quite a Cruiser, a Battleship, or a Battle Cruiser, yet it has survived for 120 years in almost operating condition while almost all of those other ships are long gone. I hope that they realize the desire of a few years ago and are able to return her machinery back into operation and she will again be able to sail under her own power some day. mtaylor, GeorgeKapas, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
GeorgeKapas Posted February 2, 2021 Author #8 Posted February 2, 2021 Thank you. It would be a magnificent sight to see her steaming again, but that is am afraid too much of a luxury expense for the Hellenic navy at this time and age. mtaylor, Edwardkenway, lmagna and 1 other 2 2 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted February 4, 2021 Author #9 Posted February 4, 2021 Both tripods have progressed. I also bought some 1/700 railings. GrandpaPhil, mikegr, yvesvidal and 3 others 6 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted February 4, 2021 Author #10 Posted February 4, 2021 Filling and sanding is the order of the week though. It seems the pieces will turn out well in the end, but this is the first time that I attempt this. I am really glad with the choice of 1/700, as anything bigger would have certainly be a problem. lmagna, GrandpaPhil, shipman and 8 others 11 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
KeithAug Posted February 5, 2021 #11 Posted February 5, 2021 George, About 15 years ago I spent a happy day with friends wondering round the Averof in Athens. She was being refurbished as a display ship at the time and we were lucky to find an enthusiastic technician who took us on an extended tour (the asbestos was a bit worrying). She is a fine example of a WW1 armoured cruiser and I look forward to seeing your model develop. GeorgeKapas, Old Collingwood, lmagna and 1 other 4 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846
vaddoc Posted February 5, 2021 #12 Posted February 5, 2021 Now this is a very interesting log! Great start George. Visiting Averof next time I am in Athens is now on the priority list. Actually, recently I read that they contemplated restoring the engines but it is completely out of the question. Apart from being prohibitively expensive, it seems that the whole ship would need to be cut to pieces or something similar. Old Collingwood, mtaylor, lmagna and 1 other 4 Quote Current projects: 21' Fisherman's Launch - plans by Howard Chapelle Hercules Steam Tugboat - scratch build from half model lines Completed projects: 21' Yawl Longboat - plans from the National Maritime Museum Deben 5 tonner - a Whisstock yard design 24' exploration gaff rigged ketch - a Tad Roberts design 15' knockabout sailing boat
GeorgeKapas Posted February 5, 2021 Author #13 Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) Yes, well, her engines are not the main issue. The problem is the last time she had her boilers retubed was in 1928. And they still burned coal. They are now beyond any functional restoration. As you can see the engines are in good order, certainly restorable, but it is impossible to practically feed them steam. Not to mention the screws, shafts and rudder have been removed to seal the hull watertight. Edited February 5, 2021 by GeorgeKapas lmagna, druxey, Old Collingwood and 4 others 5 2 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted February 8, 2021 Author #14 Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) More work on the tripods, and the first railings. I went back and forth many times, the old funnels were scrapped, and I started new ones. Edited February 8, 2021 by GeorgeKapas KeithAug, mtaylor, GrandpaPhil and 3 others 6 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted February 8, 2021 Author #15 Posted February 8, 2021 BTW I also started two more Royal Hellenic Navy ships, the old pre dreadnought Hydra and the destroyer Aetos (1912). I may have to start new threads for them? I am not sure. CDW, yvesvidal, lmagna and 5 others 8 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
mtaylor Posted February 8, 2021 #16 Posted February 8, 2021 George, do start separate threads for the two new ships. druxey, lmagna and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
GeorgeKapas Posted February 16, 2021 Author #17 Posted February 16, 2021 Updates!! The base and sea has progressed a lot, and the model as well. Photos are not good, the sea gloss is not very visible here. I'll try to take new photos in the morning. Beef Wellington, mtaylor, yvesvidal and 4 others 7 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted February 16, 2021 Author #18 Posted February 16, 2021 I need to think about how to make the blast bags. I guess filler is the only solution yvesvidal, lmagna, Old Collingwood and 5 others 8 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
vaddoc Posted February 16, 2021 #19 Posted February 16, 2021 Looks good George! What is the sea made of? Old Collingwood, mtaylor and GeorgeKapas 3 Quote Current projects: 21' Fisherman's Launch - plans by Howard Chapelle Hercules Steam Tugboat - scratch build from half model lines Completed projects: 21' Yawl Longboat - plans from the National Maritime Museum Deben 5 tonner - a Whisstock yard design 24' exploration gaff rigged ketch - a Tad Roberts design 15' knockabout sailing boat
GeorgeKapas Posted February 16, 2021 Author #20 Posted February 16, 2021 Thank you. The sea is a very thin papier mache with a coat of wood glue. I may need too add a few more coats of wood glue. This method gave a hard time at this scale (1/700) Old Collingwood, lmagna and mtaylor 3 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted April 3, 2021 Author #21 Posted April 3, 2021 Once again, sorry for the lack of updates, as always I am working on many projects at once! Old Collingwood, KeithAug, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted April 12, 2021 Author #22 Posted April 12, 2021 The deck is painted by hand (I did the lines in MS paint and printed them on A4, then added color etc) raysven, vaddoc, Old Collingwood and 6 others 9 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
Sooty Posted April 13, 2021 #23 Posted April 13, 2021 Your work is wonderful! I just started an old Hellenic Navy munition ship (Evros, A415) a few days ago, initially just a waterline model but now adding the bottom of the hull too. I will be following your build keenly! mtaylor, Canute, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote
GeorgeKapas Posted April 26, 2021 Author #24 Posted April 26, 2021 Almost ready for painting! ccoyle, yvesvidal, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
GeorgeKapas Posted May 1, 2021 Author #25 Posted May 1, 2021 Initial Painting: It will require some back and forth with sanding. Old Collingwood, GrandpaPhil, ccoyle and 7 others 10 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
yvesvidal Posted May 3, 2021 #26 Posted May 3, 2021 Precious !!! Yves mtaylor, Old Collingwood and GeorgeKapas 3 Quote
GeorgeKapas Posted May 18, 2021 Author #27 Posted May 18, 2021 The model is almost ready, some details need to be added like chains etc. I also re-did the base....again! wefalck, mikegr, Thanasis and 8 others 10 1 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Greek ship of the line Emmanuil - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon
mtaylor Posted May 18, 2021 #28 Posted May 18, 2021 Beautiful work. Old Collingwood and GeorgeKapas 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
yvesvidal Posted May 18, 2021 #29 Posted May 18, 2021 Superb display. What a meticulous work on the flags.... That water is very realistic and gives the model a wonderful and precious case for display. Yves Old Collingwood and mtaylor 2 Quote
Old Collingwood Posted May 18, 2021 #30 Posted May 18, 2021 Stunning work made even more special from scratch. OC. mtaylor 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
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