VTHokiEE Posted October 12, 2021 #1 Posted October 12, 2021 I've seen some interesting card models built on this site and succumbed to picking up a few. I've built a few free models with so-so success, but hopefully I'll have a little more success with HMV's Bussard. I choose this model mainly because I could get it easily with the laser cut detail kit (and I think it was supposed to be an easier kit 🤞). The details on the ship in the manual are all in German, but I was able to read up on the ship after translating a link from the manual (www.dampfschiff-bussard.de) and a few other details from another link (https://de.zxc.wiki/wiki/Bussard_(Schiff,_1906)) some pictures here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bussard_(ship,_1906)?uselang=en and finally the last link https://www.kiel.de/de/kultur_freizeit/museum/_museumsbruecke/tonnenleger_bussard.php. According to https://www.kiel.de/de/kultur_freizeit/museum/_museumsbruecke/tonnenleger_bussard.php: "The "Bussard" was commissioned by the Royal Hydraulic Engineering Inspection Flensburg on the Jos. L. Meyer shipyard built in Papenburg and delivered in 1906. The 40-meter-long special ship cost 224,000 gold marks, an impressive sum for that time. Initially stationed in Sønderborg, from 1919 the eastern Baltic Sea from Kiel became the operational area of the ship, which had the task of maintaining the navigation marks and thus securing shipping traffic. Until the middle of the 20th century, the light buoys were operated with gas and had to be filled regularly. In addition, the "Bussard" took over supply trips for the lightship "Fehmarnbelt"." Finally, a few pictures of the kit before I attack it with my knife 😁. Edwardkenway, pwog, EricWilliamMarshall and 8 others 11 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
VTHokiEE Posted October 13, 2021 Author #2 Posted October 13, 2021 Cutting these parts out certainly makes me nervous. I tried to get fancy and add 1/32" basswood to the bulkheads to give some additional gluing surface for the deck. It didn't go as planned so I deep sixed that thought for this build. I'm certain that I will encounter issues as I go, but it should be a nice enjoyable learning experience. I have finished placing the bulkheads now. I stumbled into using my quad hands base as a building play form at the moment so that I can use magnets to try and keep everything flat (another we'll see how this goes experiment). Gregory, Old Collingwood, Captain Slog and 10 others 13 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
ccoyle Posted October 13, 2021 #3 Posted October 13, 2021 I've got my fingers crossed for you -- just holler if you need any advice. I also read German, so let me know if you need something translated. mtaylor, Canute, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
VTHokiEE Posted October 13, 2021 Author #4 Posted October 13, 2021 28 minutes ago, ccoyle said: I've got my fingers crossed for you -- just holler if you need any advice. I also read German, so let me know if you need something translated. Thank you, I certainly will. I have two Seahorse kits in the stash and I wanted to get a feel for this before considering those. I assume it will take a few tries to learn what precision cuts need to in order to make the whole thing come together. ccoyle, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
ccoyle Posted October 13, 2021 #5 Posted October 13, 2021 Your first cuts look up to the task. VTHokiEE, Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
Old Collingwood Posted October 14, 2021 #6 Posted October 14, 2021 I shall be following with interest - you guys who make and bend card/paper like this and turn out a little wonder - I take my hat off to you - I couldn't do it. OC. Canute, EricWilliamMarshall, VTHokiEE and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
Edwardkenway Posted October 15, 2021 #7 Posted October 15, 2021 I'll tag along if you don't mind Tim? Old Collingwood, VTHokiEE, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 - on hold HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64 - FINISHED Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - FINISHED Providence whaleboat- 1:25 - FINISHED Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED
VTHokiEE Posted October 15, 2021 Author #8 Posted October 15, 2021 59 minutes ago, Edwardkenway said: I'll tag along if you don't mind Tim? Love to have you aboard just remember the season if this turns into a horror film 😉. I thought I’d be able to handle the bending from building a handle of metal models in the past. Sadly, (and I should have known) this is not quite the case, but I’m learning with every part I do. I’ll most likely post updates at the end of each step (and hopefully each step will show some improvement on the last ha!). robdurant, Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
Canute Posted October 16, 2021 #9 Posted October 16, 2021 Tim, I'd like to follow along, too. VTHokiEE, Old Collingwood and Edwardkenway 3 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
VTHokiEE Posted October 19, 2021 Author #10 Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/16/2021 at 7:39 AM, Canute said: I'd like to follow along, too. Glad to have you aboard! I finished step 2 and I have to admit this is tricky stuff - I misaligned the deck and had some issues squaring the cabins when I installed them. I should have used some thin strip wood (or something to better align everything before installation. Also - this laser cut detail is crazy! I'm attempting to install a railing on at the moment before planking one of the sides - 😬. There is a bit of a learning curve working here I'm finding. EricWilliamMarshall, Old Collingwood, GrandpaPhil and 6 others 9 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
pwog Posted October 19, 2021 #11 Posted October 19, 2021 Hey Tim, It looks great! I've never seen a card model before. I'm looking forward to watching your progress. Edwardkenway, Canute, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Paul On the Ways: Mighty Mite, Harbor Tugboat by pwog - NautiCurso - 1:64 __________________________________________________________________ Completed Builds: Lobster Boat Red Baron (Bluejacket) Sardine Carrier Pauline (Bluejacket) Swampscott Dory (BlueJacket)
GrandpaPhil Posted October 20, 2021 #12 Posted October 20, 2021 Looking good! VTHokiEE, Canute, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
ccoyle Posted October 20, 2021 #13 Posted October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, pwog said: I've never seen a card model before. Go to the top of this page, click the "card" tag, and prepare to be amazed. 😉 Old Collingwood, Canute, pwog and 2 others 5 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
VTHokiEE Posted October 21, 2021 Author #14 Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) I stared at the printed railing, then at the laser cut railing, then back at the printed railed.. muttered some choice words and cut the printed railing off and glued on the laser cut railings. I think it came out decently - I wiped some white glue on the railing to attempt to harden the frail structure. The stern was split into three sections (unlike the single section at the bow) and fitting the curve created a bump, not certain exactly how to overcome this yet (it almost would've been better to be a separate piece maybe? I'm not thrilled with how the stern planking came together (and I'm currently trying to fix the gap on the white strip), but it's not bad. I'll have to see if I can get the other side a little better. Edited October 21, 2021 by VTHokiEE Old Collingwood, GrandpaPhil, pwog and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
pwog Posted October 21, 2021 #15 Posted October 21, 2021 Tim, I'm just amazed that it's all paper,card stock! I think it looks great! Canute, Edwardkenway, VTHokiEE and 1 other 4 Quote Paul On the Ways: Mighty Mite, Harbor Tugboat by pwog - NautiCurso - 1:64 __________________________________________________________________ Completed Builds: Lobster Boat Red Baron (Bluejacket) Sardine Carrier Pauline (Bluejacket) Swampscott Dory (BlueJacket)
EricWilliamMarshall Posted October 21, 2021 #16 Posted October 21, 2021 Impressive!!! Edwardkenway, Canute, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
mtaylor Posted October 21, 2021 #17 Posted October 21, 2021 23 hours ago, ccoyle said: Go to the top of this page, click the "card" tag, and prepare to be amazed. 😉 When he hit's the Doris builds, I expect to hear a jaw drop to the floor. Edwardkenway, VTHokiEE, Canute and 3 others 4 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
pwog Posted October 21, 2021 #18 Posted October 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, mtaylor said: When he hit's the Doris builds, I expect to hear a jaw drop to the floor. Ummm, can I get a little help getting my jaw off the floor? Doris build - speechless 😶 Canute, Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood and 5 others 5 3 Quote Paul On the Ways: Mighty Mite, Harbor Tugboat by pwog - NautiCurso - 1:64 __________________________________________________________________ Completed Builds: Lobster Boat Red Baron (Bluejacket) Sardine Carrier Pauline (Bluejacket) Swampscott Dory (BlueJacket)
Old Collingwood Posted October 21, 2021 #19 Posted October 21, 2021 Looking amazing Tim - how you work with this medium is amazing. OC. pwog, mtaylor, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
GrandpaPhil Posted October 24, 2021 #20 Posted October 24, 2021 Looking good! Canute, Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
VTHokiEE Posted October 27, 2021 Author #21 Posted October 27, 2021 Ugh - I wasn't precise enough adding the side planking and the inner walls aren't aligning. I tried to trim one down and we'll see how that turns out... this is tricky stuff and I may be making a mess of it sadly. Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 1 other 1 3 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
EricWilliamMarshall Posted October 27, 2021 #22 Posted October 27, 2021 Par for the course; my fingers are crossed for you! Canute, mtaylor, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
VTHokiEE Posted October 27, 2021 Author #23 Posted October 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, EricWilliamMarshall said: Par for the course; my fingers are crossed for you! Thanks! I can see why @ccoyle wanted to use a wood blank for the hull on one of his builds. I'll have to think about how I'll approach the hull if I do something like this again. I have some other kits, but they are larger scale (and hopefully I'll be better for prepared for them). Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
VTHokiEE Posted October 27, 2021 Author #24 Posted October 27, 2021 I finished the step and here is how it is coming together. It is passable from a distance but I will be doing some paint touch-up (but I don't know if that will improve things or not depending how close I get on color so I've been hesitant to do it). However if you get close (as these pictures show) well...😬 Card modeling is tough stuff... The model actually shows better in these pictures than in life I think the more I look at them. Truthfully I'm bummed at where I'm at, I had higher hopes but here we are. I'm going to do my best to push forward and continue trying to make each step better than the one before it but this step was rough 🙂. EricWilliamMarshall, Edwardkenway, yvesvidal and 8 others 11 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
ccoyle Posted October 27, 2021 #25 Posted October 27, 2021 Yep, these paper hulls can be tricky. I'll let you know when I've gotten one "just right" -- but don't stay up waiting. There's an after-market 3-D printed hull available for HMV's USS England -- it ain't cheap at $64, but that's what Christmas lists are made for. VTHokiEE, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
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