Richard Dunn Posted December 19, 2021 Author #31 Posted December 19, 2021 Also in this shot of Cutty Sark's aft end you can see the same situation happens which we will cover, the counter is nothing more than an elliptical extension of the transom built from cant frames as you can see here. Egilman 1 Quote
Egilman Posted December 19, 2021 #32 Posted December 19, 2021 Just a note for everyone east past the international dateline... Those in the US need to take note of the date... the 23rd is a day too late... mtaylor 1 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
PilotNL Posted December 19, 2021 #33 Posted December 19, 2021 the longboat example had only a positive curve, larger ships have a negative curve near the stern, like an S-spant here the lines become really confusing Egilman 1 Quote
Richard Dunn Posted December 19, 2021 Author #34 Posted December 19, 2021 That's no different to Cutty Sark lines really, this cutter was showing the hull including the skeg but anyway same thing. Egilman 1 Quote
Richard Dunn Posted December 19, 2021 Author #35 Posted December 19, 2021 Guys someone has tried to log into the workshop 3-4 days out and as a result we have been bombarded with emails Please don't log into in yet. Egilman and mtaylor 2 Quote
sv2peter Posted December 19, 2021 #36 Posted December 19, 2021 Hi Richard, have to be honest: you planning this online workshop is what really triggered my joining MSW. I was browsing this amazing forum as a visitor, when I stumbled upon your post. I am a complete newbie (not in age though), but would be honored to attend your workshop. Have never build a ship model so far (my experience is restricted to a few balsawood rc model airplanes) and have minimal experience with 3D CAD software. But, I was always interested about trying conceptual design on a computer, and then transfer it from screen to wood. Unless this is actually for advanced members, I would like to attend. You might as well use me as a benchmark for your presentation , in the likes of ''For Dummies'' series of books!. Regards, Peter Ryland Craze, Egilman and mtaylor 3 Quote
fnkershner Posted December 20, 2021 #37 Posted December 20, 2021 Can you provide the link to Rino. I see many links some cost $$ and some are free. I have the plans for the America from the Smithsonian Museum. It is my hope to build this using the CNC. I have loaded these plans into Fusion360 (the only CAD/CAM S/F I know.) I am very interested in help lofting from 2D plans to a Solid and then output to Gcode. mtaylor and Egilman 2 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me!
Richard Dunn Posted December 20, 2021 Author #38 Posted December 20, 2021 https://www.rhino3d.com/ Anyone can come as long as they click the link on the day at the time given. Also as Egilman said take note of date line to as I am in Australia Egilman and mtaylor 2 Quote
Egilman Posted December 20, 2021 #39 Posted December 20, 2021 14 hours ago, Richard Dunn said: Guys someone has tried to log into the workshop 3-4 days out and as a result we have been bombarded with emails Please don't log into in yet. Well I was one of them... Sorry... Just wanted to confirm the date and yes I had forgot about the international date line... I already have zoom loaded so I just clicked the direct link and it confirmed the date which I posted here immediately... Didn't mean to set off a firestorm... mtaylor 1 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Kevin-the-lubber Posted December 20, 2021 #40 Posted December 20, 2021 Me too I'm afraid, at least probably. Wrongly thought it would spawn something into my calendar, apologies! Egilman and mtaylor 2 Quote Kevin https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/ktl_model_shop Current projects: HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller / Scratch, kind of active, depending on the alignment of the planets) https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23247-hms-victory-by-kevin-the-lubber-heller-1100-plastic-with-3d-printed-additions/ Cutty Sark 1:96 (More scratch than Revell, parked for now) https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30964-cutty-sark-by-kevin-the-lubber-revell-196 Soleil Royal 1:100 (Heller..... and probably some bashing. The one I'm not supposed to be working on yet) https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36944-le-soleil-royal-by-kevin-the-lubber-heller-1100-plastic/
fnkershner Posted December 20, 2021 #41 Posted December 20, 2021 Thanks for the link. The install recommends a "getting started" video, but there is a charge. So I will wait for you. I suspect this will require more than 1 session. mtaylor and Egilman 2 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me!
Greg G Posted December 21, 2021 #42 Posted December 21, 2021 I all set for tomorrow the 23 /12 /2021 at 6:00 AM Brisbane time . I have Zoom and Rhino 7 in stalled now Looking forward in get to work with Richard's training workshop. I will be nice to see what you can to do with Rhino 7. I have to say a big thank you to Richard for doing this training workshop for us guy's that are just starting in CAD Greg Egilman, fnkershner and mtaylor 3 Quote
Richard Dunn Posted December 22, 2021 Author #43 Posted December 22, 2021 Thanks guys, its going to be hard work doing it so early but we will get there, I am not expecting anyone to follow along, that's why its being recorded. I will have to move at a good pace but will explain things as I go, just like the way we taught at Uni. But you will understand the logic of the process and how to apply it to different forms. I will stop every hour for 10 mins for coffee breaks to. just preparing the latest lines from Lloyds now for the example as they are seriously deformed gjdale, Greg G, mtaylor and 3 others 3 3 Quote
Richard Dunn Posted December 22, 2021 Author #44 Posted December 22, 2021 15 mins to start, just having breakfast. Egilman 1 Quote
LeoM Posted December 22, 2021 #45 Posted December 22, 2021 Bon appetit mtaylor 1 Quote Leo Moons Nous sommes condamnés à être libre Present build: Cutty Sark by Sergal/Mantua 1:78 Previous builds: - Collie by Graupner RC Sailing boat - Blue Nose II by Billing Boats - Harvey by Artesania Latina - Oceanic by Revell RC Tugboat - Thyssen II by Graupner RC Pushing boat
Egilman Posted December 23, 2021 #46 Posted December 23, 2021 That was excellent I enjoyed it thoroughly, unfortunately I didn't get it recorded... Thank you Richard for a wonderful presentation... mtaylor 1 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Richard Dunn Posted December 23, 2021 Author #47 Posted December 23, 2021 Its ok, its all recorded ok, 2.5 gb worth and will edit it and upload. mikegr, Greg G, mtaylor and 2 others 1 2 2 Quote
PeteB Posted December 23, 2021 #48 Posted December 23, 2021 Hi Richard Thanks from me as well - best 5 hrs I've spent acquiring CAD skills specific to our hobby . Gave me good insight into where I've been going wrong and the advantages Rhino offers in hull construction simplicity once you know the rules. Much appreciate you giving up some of your family time so close to Xmas. Best wishes to you and yours, Cheers Pete lmagna, mtaylor, Greg G and 2 others 5 Quote
gjdale Posted December 23, 2021 #49 Posted December 23, 2021 Big THANK YOU from me too Richard. A really valuable session and learned heaps. Sorry I had to duck out just before you finished - I had another commitment to attend. Best wishes to you and your family for the festive season. mikegr, Egilman and mtaylor 3 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
Greg G Posted December 23, 2021 #50 Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) Thank you Richard for all the hard work and help today. The way you showed us Riho looks a lot easier to use than Fusion 360 . Now I just have to wait for the video to downloaded to go over it step by step . Greg Edited December 23, 2021 by Greg G Egilman, mikegr and mtaylor 3 Quote
PilotNL Posted December 23, 2021 #51 Posted December 23, 2021 Oh man, I missed it! I had set it for tonight in my calendar, the 23rd, but early morning 23rd down under is obviously evening of the 22nd here in Europe :’( Looking forward to the recording. mtaylor and Egilman 2 Quote
YankeeClipper Posted December 23, 2021 #52 Posted December 23, 2021 Richard, Thank you very much for such an excellent workshop! It was really well done! I'm really looking forward to the recording so I can review the complete workflow in detail. Steve Egilman, mtaylor and Greg G 3 Quote
vaddoc Posted December 23, 2021 #53 Posted December 23, 2021 Completely missed this Richard! Unlucky! Also looking forward to the recording being released. Many thanks and Merry Christmas! Egilman and mtaylor 2 Quote Current projects: 21' Fisherman's Launch - plans by Howard Chapelle Hercules Steam Tugboat - scratch build from half model lines Completed projects: 21' Yawl Longboat - plans from the National Maritime Museum Deben 5 tonner - a Whisstock yard design 24' exploration gaff rigged ketch - a Tad Roberts design 15' knockabout sailing boat
sv2peter Posted December 25, 2021 #54 Posted December 25, 2021 OMG, major goof on my side too, Richard.. Completely missed it, apologies. Thanx god, you will upload the whole thing. Next time promise I'll be more careful with my calendar notifications :-) BTW, best wishes for all members of this amazing group. Enjoy the festive season! Regards, Peter Egilman and mtaylor 2 Quote
Greg G Posted December 29, 2021 #55 Posted December 29, 2021 Hi Richard Any update on the recording . mtaylor and Egilman 2 Quote
Richard Dunn Posted December 31, 2021 Author #56 Posted December 31, 2021 Hi All, Here is the link to the Webinar I held on the 23rd December. This is for all of you who are after a copy and attended or anyone who was not able to attend. https://www.dropbox.com/s/nq8liinoh9e4gqf/Hull Form Basics in Rhino.mp4?dl=0 Regards Richard Veszett Roka, mtaylor, mikegr and 4 others 4 3 Quote
Greg G Posted December 31, 2021 #57 Posted December 31, 2021 Thank you very much Richard . I download the file and it all work fine. I did have to download VLC media player to get the sound as the windows 10 media player would not play the sound recording . That maybe just me .The recording is a big help to me on doing the Pevensey hull . Greg mtaylor 1 Quote
gjdale Posted December 31, 2021 #58 Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) Hi Richard, Thanks so much for doing this. I just followed your link and it appears that you've put an edited version up in Dropbox that runs for about one hour. However, when I downloaded it from drop box, it seems to download the full 4hr 40min version. Any idea why this is so? (I'm not all that familiar with using Dropbox, so it could well be "operator error"). Also just discovered that with the long version that downloads, there is no sound at all....... Edited December 31, 2021 by gjdale mtaylor 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
Greg G Posted December 31, 2021 #59 Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, gjdale said: Hi Richard, Thanks so much for doing this. I just followed your link and it appears that you've put an edited version up in Dropbox that runs for about one hour. However, when I downloaded it from drop box, it seems to download the full 4hr 40min version. Any idea why this is so? (I'm not all that familiar with using Dropbox, so it could well be "operator error"). Also just discovered that with the long version that downloads, there is no sound at all....... Look at my post .I had to download the free VLC media player to get the sound to work . mikegr and mtaylor 2 Quote
PeteB Posted December 31, 2021 #60 Posted December 31, 2021 6 hours ago, Richard Dunn said: Hi All, Here is the link to the Webinar I held on the 23rd December. This is for all of you who are after a copy and attended or anyone who was not able to attend. https://www.dropbox.com/s/nq8liinoh9e4gqf/Hull Form Basics in Rhino.mp4?dl=0 Regards Richard Hi Richard -Thanks for all your time putting the workshop together and the Time spent editing - Happy New Year to you and Yours. Cheers Pete Quote
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