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Interesting stuff there, Alan.   More than a few archiologist types have always said that there's truth in those legends of old.  The problem is finding them.  So it's very possible that fabled city existed but trick to be to find out where.   It's also possible (likely?) it's where it's described as, but buried deep in the sand.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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22 hours ago, mtaylor said:

Interesting stuff there, Alan.   More than a few archiologist types have always said that there's truth in those legends of old.  The problem is finding them.  So it's very possible that fabled city existed but trick to be to find out where.   It's also possible (likely?) it's where it's described as, but buried deep in the sand.

Thanks Mark. The Sahara is a huge place too. The area around the mountain is a maze of gullies and canyons. I doubt they have ever been fully explored in detail. Stuff keeps turning up out there like the P40 found in 2012 in Egypt. That was sitting on rocky desert so not even buried. 

In ancient times the area around the mountain wasn't desert. The cave paintings  show lions, giraffes and elephants so it was probably savannah like Botswana or Kenya maybe. The ancient Egyptians got ivory and gold from somewhere and a very old trade route is evident leading south towards the mountain. Curiously gold has been discovered (or rediscovered?) in the last ten years very close to the mountain. So maybe a city is buried there somewhere. Its an interesting environment. It fascinates me that you can pick up an expended AK47 cartridge sitting on the desert floor next to a piece of prehistoric pottery or a stone tool.

Alan

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Back on topic today.

Yesterday I was playing around to see if I could make convincing representation of the sand that gathers on surfaces not blown clear by travel. I made a mix of PVA glue and water which I painted onto the areas I thought sand would be found. Then I added a spoonful of the dust from sanding the ceramic bricks used in the Aedes Ars models which was sitting around. I tapped the surplus off and dusted off any remaining excess with a stiff paintbrush. I like the effect; its a bit more three dimensional than just using paint but I think its easy to get a bit too wild with it.

The tarped load was placed properly in the load bed and then the wheels were added. I was excited to find all four touched the ground. I gave the whole model a coat of matte coat.

The 1/8 inch square styrene rod arrived today and I started making the flimsies again. Hopefully these will be better than the first attempt.

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I like this model enough that I ordered the 1/35 scale version from Roden to see how that builds up.

 

Thanks for looking in

 

Alan

 

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Great idea with the ground up ceramic for desert sand. The car looks very good.👍

Ken

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I love It Alan  - really really nice.

 

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Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

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On 12/18/2021 at 5:00 PM, king derelict said:

I can't make up my mind whether I like the tarped load in the load bed.

I have no real idea on tarp or not to tarp, but my thinking goes along the lines the the "truck bed" of these vehicles was more for personal gear of the crew and the afore mentioned gas, (Petrol?) cans that were left scattered all over. Maybe an ammo box or two lashed in place. No real room for much in the way of cargo.

 

I agree with the no rust policy. It takes years for stuff to rust up in the desert. 

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Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

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Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

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16 hours ago, lmagna said:

I have no real idea on tarp or not to tarp, but my thinking goes along the lines the the "truck bed" of these vehicles was more for personal gear of the crew and the afore mentioned gas, (Petrol?) cans that were left scattered all over. Maybe an ammo box or two lashed in place. No real room for much in the way of cargo.

 

I agree with the no rust policy. It takes years for stuff to rust up in the desert. 

Thank you Lou.

Yes, I was thinking that the lockers on the side of the truck bed would hold some supplies but ropes, personal kit etc might be under that tarp. Bed rolls if it was a multi-day patrol.

Alan

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A tiny update. I am making the flimsies for the car. I took a length of 1/8 square styrene rod and rounded the edges slightly to make the individual cans more apparent. I cut four 5 mm pieces and glued them together. I created the appearance of the lids by pressing the tip of a hypodermic needle into teh tops. Its a little out of scale but it was the smallest size I have and its not in quite the right place but any closer to teh edge and it distorts the plastic. I think it will look okay under some dust. A plain top just leaves it as a box

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After priming with black primer I painted the strip with metal paint and gave it a black wash to delineate the individual cans better

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Next I will add some dust but first I had a diorama to finish - not a desert one this time

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I hope everyone has a wonderful Christmas and a safe and prosperous New Year

 

Alan

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The cans look great and so does your "other" diorama.  

 

Have a great holiday.

Mark
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 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Nice work on the tins and you "other" diorama, Alan. 👍😁

Ken

Started: MS Bounty Longboat,

On Hold:  Heinkel USS Choctaw paper

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Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section

 

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great job all around!  there would be no real rust......but there would be tarnish.  you copied that well for the cans ;)   the cake came out 'sweet' as well :) 

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Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

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17 hours ago, mtaylor said:

The cans look great and so does your "other" diorama.  

 

Have a great holiday.

Thank you very much Mark

Witha third of a bottle of brandy in it; I'm hoping the edible diorama tastes good

Happy Christmas

Alan

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3 hours ago, popeye the sailor said:

great job all around!  there would be no real rust......but there would be tarnish.  you copied that well for the cans ;)   the cake came out 'sweet' as well :) 

Thank you very much Popeye

I look forward to tasting the cake

Happy Christmas

Alan

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The fuel cans were dulled a little and added to the back of the car. I added a bit more replica sand around the cans and I think this one is finished.

The 200 error nailed one of the photos - funny how it picks on one image and even if it is edited, renamed  reimported and it still kicks it out.

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Thank you for all the support, kind and helpful comments. I hope it has been interesting.

I hope you all have a great Christmas

Alan

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Have a look at the last post in this topic.   The Admins are trying to resolve the photo issue.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Just now, mtaylor said:

Have a look at the last post in this topic.   The Admins are trying to resolve the photo issue.

Thanks Mark

I read the thread. It will be interesting to see what is going on - though doubtless it will be unintelligible to me.

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Great work 👍and a tasty diorama 😉

Regards, Patrick

 

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Love the sand base nice work replicating the mostly rocky crust.... Really looks the part...

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On 12/23/2021 at 4:14 PM, king derelict said:

not a desert one this time

Does that mean that it is of the dessert kind?:D

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

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Looks great Alan!  

Mike

 

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F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72  Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48  Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48

Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya  Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16

 

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1 hour ago, Ghosthunter said:

Love the finished car but I would put some squadron or division markings on the sides somewhere.

Thanks for the kind comment and the input. So far I haven't found any photos showing how the SDF marked their cars. I have thought of using the ID numbers provided in the kit and then part obscuring them with sand and dust.

Alan

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4 hours ago, king derelict said:

So far I haven't found any photos showing how the SDF marked their cars. I have thought of using the ID numbers provided in the kit and then part obscuring them with sand and dust.

Neither have I Alan, I suspect they didn't mark them for some reason probably cause they weren't used in mass formation so they really didn't need it... (most military vehicle markings were for unit identification on the battlefield.... Using the kit supplied markings would be a non-sequitur for an SDF vehicle....

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Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

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