botra288 Posted May 26, 2023 Share #31 Posted May 26, 2023 great work on the frames, Jeronimo 😀 mtaylor, Keith Black and Jeronimo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GioMun Posted May 26, 2023 Share #32 Posted May 26, 2023 Outstanding Karl, as usual. Wunderbar!! Please keep coming more photos!! Greetings. Giorgio mtaylor, Keith Black and Jeronimo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeronimo Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share #33 Posted June 7, 2023 Hello modelingfriends, thank you very much for the kind comments and likes. Remaining frames were installed the inside was straightened and sanded. Greetings Karl davyboy, Mic_Nao, Isaiah and 17 others 15 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic_Nao Posted June 7, 2023 Share #34 Posted June 7, 2023 Superb Karl, magnificent finishing work. mtaylor, Jeronimo and Keith Black 3 Quote The best aperitif is not necessarily the most expensive, it's the one we share! https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34058-frigate-l-egyptienne-1799-scale-148-by-mic_nao/#comment-969607 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeronimo Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share #35 Posted June 7, 2023 I made a mistake when installing the bulkhead spacers and will change it, the groove for the water drain is only "outside". Karl CiscoH, tlevine, Archi and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted June 7, 2023 Share #36 Posted June 7, 2023 That is annoying! I hope that you can easily extract the 'keys' to replace them. Jeronimo, mtaylor, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeronimo Posted August 4, 2023 Author Share #37 Posted August 4, 2023 davyboy, marsalv, dvm27 and 15 others 9 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic_Nao Posted August 4, 2023 Share #38 Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) That's a shame. Do it in three parts like Bonhomme Richard? Edited August 4, 2023 by Mic_Nao Jeronimo, Keith Black and mtaylor 3 Quote The best aperitif is not necessarily the most expensive, it's the one we share! https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34058-frigate-l-egyptienne-1799-scale-148-by-mic_nao/#comment-969607 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 4, 2023 Share #39 Posted August 4, 2023 That is not good news but understandable. Will you have to start over or can you cut the bow off this model and us it? That might save you much work. Jeronimo, Mic_Nao and Keith Black 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted August 5, 2023 Share #40 Posted August 5, 2023 I'm sorry to read that the model is too large to continue. The work you have done is first class, Karl. Keith Black, Mic_Nao, Jeronimo and 1 other 4 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeronimo Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share #41 Posted August 5, 2023 Vor 22 Stunden sagte Mic_Nao: Das ist eine Schande. Tun Sie es in drei Teilen wie Bonhomme Richard? GrandpaPhil, bruce d, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeronimo Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share #42 Posted August 5, 2023 Vor 3 Stunden sagte Mtaylor: Das ist keine gute Nachricht, aber verständlich. Müssen Sie von vorne anfangen oder können Sie den Bogen von diesem Modell abschneiden und verwenden? Das kann Ihnen viel Arbeit ersparen. mtaylor, Mic_Nao, bruce d and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeronimo Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share #43 Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) Hallo Modellbaufreunde. Edited August 21, 2023 by Jeronimo davyboy, scrubbyj427, botra288 and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierreS Posted August 21, 2023 Share #44 Posted August 21, 2023 This pear tree is beautiful, good luck. (The back part for later?) ChrisLBren, Jeronimo, dvm27 and 2 others 5 Quote The word progress will have no meaning as long as there are unhappy children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeronimo Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share #45 Posted August 29, 2023 On 8/21/2023 at 7:41 AM, PierreS said: This pear tree is beautiful, good luck. (The back part for later?) The wood is not pear, but "Elsbeere" (Sorbus torminalis) Karl mtaylor and CiscoH 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeronimo Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share #46 Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) Hallo. Edited November 14, 2023 by Jeronimo davyboy, marsalv, Mike Y and 18 others 15 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted November 14, 2023 Share #47 Posted November 14, 2023 Very nice framing work! Hubac's Historian, Keith Black, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaager Posted November 16, 2023 Share #48 Posted November 16, 2023 Just some random comments: If you think the 64 gun hull is large, you should try the 118 gun Commerce de Marseille? Even at 1:60 it is a contest for who will get the work room! You are very fortunate in being able to source Sorbus torminalis. The wood looks excellent, I have tried many tools in a search for a way to shape the inside of the framing. The angle grinder that you show is one that works fairly well for me. I wish I could find a slim electric grinder that is 45/120 degrees as it would make getting inside easier - but I only find compressed air tools with that feature.. The one that I find to be more useful is this one: https://www.kaleas.de/en/modeling-tinker/minitool/140/minitool-right-angle-grinder The disk that comes with it is a bit wide. There is a chuck accessory that allows for disks with smaller diameters. The problem is that it extends the cutting surface out from the motor. The motor itself is about the size of my hand, so if I can get my hand inside, I can get the grinder inside. I do not know the metric equivalents but I am quite pleased to have a drum sander to shape the frames. A quality 1/3 HP TEFC motor with a 1/2 inch shaft and ~1700 rpm is key . To mount it so that the shaft is vertical, all that is needed is a firm base with big rubber sound/vibration absorbing feet and a sort of Erector Set type steel angle pieces with holes for threaded bolts. A box or table is not needed. Almost nothing on a frame is 90 degrees, so a table just gets in the way. I have two problems with commercial oscillating spindle sanders: 1) The drum mounts are usually proprietary - you can only use their drums 2) The mounts are not a simple 1/2 inch rod. With a simple 1/2 inch rod, other things can be mounted - a chuck that can hold burrs and cutters - any other cutting tool that has a 1/2 inch mount, buffing pads, grinding wheels. It is easy to get drums with a variety of diameters that will fit directly on a 1/2 inch shaft. I prefer sleeveless drums, It is easy to replace the cutting material using sandpaper sheets. I worry about the tightening to secure a sanding sleeve to a rubber drum getting the drum out of round. I also have a drum that is 3 inches diameter and 6 inches tall. The extra height is useful for large frames. TEFC - the drums generate much sawdust. An enclosed motor with its own cooling fan protects the motor. I also have a large piece of cardboard with a 1/2" hole in its center sitting on the motor where the shaft comes out - It directs the sawdust away from the motor. It is important to have a lot of air flow around the motor. If used for very long, it gets hot. My motor is CW/CCW. I wired a drum switch so that the rotation can be reversed at will. I had to have a tech person at the motor manufacturer email me the wiring diagram - It is a lot more complicated than connecting 3 wires. mtaylor, Jeronimo, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote NRG member 45 years Current: HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 ship - timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeronimo Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share #49 Posted November 17, 2023 Archi, bruce d, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaager Posted November 17, 2023 Share #50 Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) Karl, I agree about the size of the Proxxon. I agree with your evaluation of the machine. I am always on the watch for something better and am fortunate to be able to afford the search. Your presentation did refocus my attention. I did another search for an a grinder with an angle between 0 degrees and 90 degrees. If only Foredom Flex had that attachment! All I found was a series of air driven tools for automotive use. There was one on sale at Harbor Freight - electric - acute angle - not enough acute and pretty fat. I thought about it, but after sleeping on it - I have decided to give it a pass. Remembering fighting with the chuck and the length of the 1",2",3" Chinese disks on the Kaleas angle grinder ( MM is their agent in the US - rebranded ) I reevaluated my preconception about how large the cutting surface on the disk should be. I think I can use the larger disk that comes with it and use fine touch and finesse to get almost everywhere inside the hull. The machine does a trick (works well) on shaping the outside - quickly. I have an advantage over your method as far as shaping without damaging the edges of the frames. I have Pine fillers where the spaces are. They have an easily reversible bond - to punch them out when the hull is final. (I am still working on finding the perfect glue to temporarily hold them and let go and disappear.) Centurion is on the stocks because the disappear part using Scotch double sided tape did not work out all that well. I got frustrated with that fiddly bit. It is tight in there between the frames! I wonder if years down the road, you will wish you had chosen the complete hull 1:60 option - my HMS Centurion 60 1732 is 1:60 and I like the size. 50% of the volume of the 1:48. Edited November 17, 2023 by Jaager allanyed, Jeronimo, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote NRG member 45 years Current: HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 ship - timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeronimo Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share #51 Posted December 13, 2023 Vielen Dank an alle für die freundlichen Kommentare. Kleine Fortschritte bei dem Baum des Modells. Erklärungen dazu erspare ich mir, Bilder / Fotos zeigen es ja. Karl Siggi52, Isaiah, dvm27 and 15 others 15 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubbyj427 Posted December 13, 2023 Share #52 Posted December 13, 2023 Beautiful work! Jeronimo, Keith Black and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeronimo Posted January 8 Author Share #53 Posted January 8 Hallo Modellbaufreunde. ccoyle, Michel Bénard, CiscoH and 18 others 14 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Bénard Posted January 8 Share #54 Posted January 8 A master 's work ! 😊 Keith Black, mtaylor and Jeronimo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubbyj427 Posted January 8 Share #55 Posted January 8 Absolutely beautiful work! Well done! Jeronimo, Keith Black and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeronimo Posted February 6 Author Share #56 Posted February 6 iosto, Mike Y, davyboy and 14 others 11 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeronimo Posted Friday at 01:01 PM Author Share #57 Posted Friday at 01:01 PM UPDATE: davyboy, mtaylor, scrubbyj427 and 8 others 5 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Bénard Posted Friday at 01:08 PM Share #58 Posted Friday at 01:08 PM Great continuation of this construction site, bravo! . Keith Black, mtaylor and Jeronimo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted yesterday at 01:52 AM Share #59 Posted yesterday at 01:52 AM Terrific work! Jeronimo, mtaylor and Keith Black 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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