ccoyle Posted January 4, 2023 Share #91 Posted January 4, 2023 Another great model added to your fleet! I enjoyed seeing the group shot -- I may use it to persuade the missus that I do, in fact, have more display space available! Blue Ensign 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipman Posted January 4, 2023 Share #92 Posted January 4, 2023 Soopa, well worth the extra work putting a crew together. Congratulations. Er.....wouldn't a flag officer have a flag? Blue Ensign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted January 4, 2023 Share #93 Posted January 4, 2023 Love it, love it, love it. You've excelled yourself on the period feel once again, well worth the effort! Blue Ensign 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share #94 Posted January 5, 2023 Thank you, James, those figures you directed me to turned out better than I had feared.👍 @ Chris, good luck with that, what you can’t see are the other models resident in my office – Norske Love, a French Seventy-four, and a Flower Class Corvette. Apart from the Shower room and Kitchen virtually all rooms have their ship model(s). I do have an understanding wife but she draws the line at the bedroom, but I got away with a couple of ship paintings. 🤞 @ shipman – he is but a lowly Rear Admiral of the least senior squadron (Blue) and besides he ain’t going anywhere.😉 @ Jason – Thank you Jason – it looks fine providing a macro lens is not allowed anywhere near it.🙄 B.E Beef Wellington, bruce d and Wintergreen 3 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted January 6, 2023 Share #95 Posted January 6, 2023 Just amazing work at 1:64. Well done B.E. I'm looking forward to see what's next. dunnock, Beef Wellington and Blue Ensign 2 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus M Posted February 8, 2023 Share #96 Posted February 8, 2023 a beautiful and fantastic work I have seen these Vanguard models and they are really nice Do you think they would be good for a beginner to start in it? I would appreciate an opinion on this mtaylor 1 Quote Greetings Gus ------------------------------------------------------------------- Current build log: San Francisco Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted February 8, 2023 Share #97 Posted February 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, Gus Martinez said: a beautiful and fantastic work I have seen these Vanguard models and they are really nice Do you think they would be good for a beginner to start in it? I would appreciate an opinion on this They aren’t insurmountable, but see we do class them as this on the website. It depends on your experience in and out of modelling. mtaylor and Gus M 2 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share #98 Posted February 8, 2023 Thank you for your kind words Gus, These boats are quite tricky to assemble, and I agree with Vanguards rating of ‘experienced’. I don’t think the 36’ barge is currently on sale, but the 32’ version is. The boats are quite delicate, at least until they are planked. ‘Soft’ hands and a gentle approach is needed to avoid breakages in areas like the stem and stern during the fairing and planking process. These small boats aren’t the best candidates for a start in ship modelling, but all you have to lose apart from your temper is the cost of the kit. The danger is that frustration and failure may put you off the hobby for life. Something like the Vanguard Fishing boat range, The Fifie perhaps, is an excellent choice for someone new to ship modelling, with a high chance of a good result and a desire for more. I wish you well in whatever you decide. Regards, B.E. Ryland Craze, Gus M and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus M Posted February 9, 2023 Share #99 Posted February 9, 2023 21 hours ago, James H said: They aren’t insurmountable, but see we do class them as this on the website. It depends on your experience in and out of modelling. thank you for your reply @James H mtaylor 1 Quote Greetings Gus ------------------------------------------------------------------- Current build log: San Francisco Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus M Posted February 9, 2023 Share #100 Posted February 9, 2023 19 hours ago, Blue Ensign said: Thank you for your kind words Gus, These boats are quite tricky to assemble, and I agree with Vanguards rating of ‘experienced’. I don’t think the 36’ barge is currently on sale, but the 32’ version is. The boats are quite delicate, at least until they are planked. ‘Soft’ hands and a gentle approach is needed to avoid breakages in areas like the stem and stern during the fairing and planking process. These small boats aren’t the best candidates for a start in ship modelling, but all you have to lose apart from your temper is the cost of the kit. The danger is that frustration and failure may put you off the hobby for life. Something like the Vanguard Fishing boat range, The Fifie perhaps, is an excellent choice for someone new to ship modelling, with a high chance of a good result and a desire for more. I wish you well in whatever you decide. Regards, B.E. Hi, thank you for your reply you mean this one? https://vanguardmodels.co.uk/product/clinker-hull-boats-full-kit/ because of the shipping cost, I think it is better to bring me two of them, this one and one like the one you have built to have it, and I would do it when the time comes, these small boats are very nice and I did not think it was complicated to assemble as you describe, we will try little by little, then.... mtaylor 1 Quote Greetings Gus ------------------------------------------------------------------- Current build log: San Francisco Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share #101 Posted February 9, 2023 Hi Gus, the one you show is a resin hull already completed apart from the internal fittings. This won't really advance you very far in wooden ship building. The one I was referring to is the Fife 'Lady Eleanor' specifically designed for Novice builders.. B.E. Gus M and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted February 9, 2023 Share #102 Posted February 9, 2023 For a total novice, I’d go for Fifie or Zulu. Gus M and mtaylor 2 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus M Posted February 9, 2023 Share #103 Posted February 9, 2023 ok, @James H and @Blue Ensign you mean one of these two, is that right? https://vanguardmodels.co.uk/product/fifie-lady-eleanor/ https://vanguardmodels.co.uk/product/zulu-lady-isabella/ in that case I will have to choose "Lady Eleanor", Zulu is out of stock. I'm going to check the shipping costs and taxes (IVA) to Spain to be able to do the maths and not spend too much, but they are beautiful. mtaylor and James H 2 Quote Greetings Gus ------------------------------------------------------------------- Current build log: San Francisco Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted February 9, 2023 Share #104 Posted February 9, 2023 Yup, those are the ones! Gus M and mtaylor 2 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James H Posted February 9, 2023 Share #105 Posted February 9, 2023 There are 10 Zulu. I’m adding stock now. mtaylor and Gus M 2 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share #106 Posted February 9, 2023 Having built both Fifie and Zulu, I would say that the Zulu is slightly more tricky to plank than the Fifie, but both represent excellent starter builds, but also provide the opportunity for enhancement. I don't think you would be disappointed by either. B.E. mtaylor 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus M Posted February 9, 2023 Share #107 Posted February 9, 2023 @James H and @Blue Ensign Thank you both very much, if I have to choose one for my personal taste, I prefer Zulu. I have to find out how much it will cost me to import it to Spain from the UK and do the maths, but I think it will be possible this month or next to buy one of them, to make in the future, for the moment I will continue with the one I am building (San Francisco section of Artsania Latina) to learn and this will be the next on the list, I have the Providence Kit but I have seen some threads that say that the materials are very bad and it is very hard to make it, so I was looking for a Vanguard kit that I would like to continue, and this will be the Zulu. Thanks for your advice, it has been very helpful, very kind. I hope I am not wrong in my decision mtaylor 1 Quote Greetings Gus ------------------------------------------------------------------- Current build log: San Francisco Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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