TRE KRONER 1742 by Beckmann - 3"/8' scale - Transom-Model

[CiscoH]

 i would vote natural, red trim with natural, or red.  But i think any of the example colour schemes would look great

[druxey]

The safe choice would be natural wood. However, light grey or pale gray-green might be other choices to consider. Usually the 'red' was actually red ochre; a brownish red.

[dvm27]

First off, congratulations on you wonderful carpentry. Your joinery would pass inspection if enlarged to full size. It'll look beautiful whatever you do but personally I would opt for the natural wood with a varnish.

[Siggi52]

Moin Matthias,

I would paint the great cabin turquoise, in a blue or green tone. That is for the rococo period a good choice. The officers cabins white and all rooms for the ordinary seamen red. Natural wood only when ist was walnut or something like this. 

[Canute]

Your joinery is superb. I'd lean towards a blue shade.

[TJM]

Based on contemporary models at the Danish Krigsmuseet (War Museum), it seems to me that blue was not really used much on Danish ships after the 1720's (it was quite used in the 1600's though!). The colour palette of this period seems to be red, black, white  and yellow/gold. But the interior of the contemporary models are not detailed, so there are room for speculation/interpretation. 

 

I would go with natural or red - or perhaps a clean off-white?

 

BR

TJM

[ChrisLBren]

Nice work - personally I would go with a shellac - my favorite finish - either a blonde or garnet if you want darker.  Its so easy to apply and you can make you own mixture using flakes and alcohol.  

[Beckmann]

Hello everyone, and thank you for your interest and comments.

 

Not much has happened since my last post, but I have decided on a color to be used for the paneling of the “underste Kajyt”. Siggi had suggested a turquoise color, which is common for the rococo-style. In addition to all sorts of other suggestions such as grey, natural or red, I somehow stuck with it. Not because it was historically vouched for my model, but because it is something different from the usual red and white, and spreads a Northern European-Scandinavian cool atmosphere, which I like for my model, it is not English, so red would have been a good choice.

It may still be a little intense, but I'll leave it that way for now:

 

 

In the Danish National Archives, under the archive number A 1175d, there is a layout of the stern cabins of the Orlog ship ELEPHANTEN (same size, same designer and same year of construction as the TRE KRONER) and under the archive number A 975 an elaborately drawn longitudinal section of a Danish ship oft he line, which also shows the paneling of the “underste Kajyt” and the “Storre Kajyt” (great cabin). The “Storre Kajyt” has fluted flat columns with Corinthian capitals.

 

 

I am basing my model on both drawings, i.e. there will be no partitions in the areas of my stern section and the paneling in the upper cabin will be correspondingly more elaborate.

 

Further clues are provided by a contemporary cutaway model from the Krigsmuseet, where the rudder trunk, the stern bench and a bookshelf are beautifully depicted, and the preserved interior of the Swedish royal yacht AMPHION in the Sjohistoriska Museet in Stockholm. It doesn't have to be quite so magnificent, but the columns and the paneling are comparable to the sectional drawing A 975 (see above) I visited and photographed the Amphion myself, it is extremely impressive.

 

 

 

 

 

Best regards,

Matthias

[Siggi52]

Moin Matthias,

that looks very good. But don't make the color sooo dark. More so in the direction of your last pictures. These light colors are not so good to determine, is it light green or blue. That is what I mean with turquoise. 

Mostly you may see how the cabins where painted at the sides of the portholes. Here the Victory SLR0512

 

Edited June 2 by Siggi52

[druxey]

The color you show does look too intense. Even if this was what was used, it should be tinted (lightened) at scale size to look right.

[Beckmann]

Hello everyone,
After the summer break, I have returned to the TRE KRONER. The model continues to develop from bottom to top, so the interior of the ‘Underste Kajyt’ is currently being worked on, as well as the continuation of the transom from the outside.
Here we start with the cantilevered balcony, which was glued into shape from two layers of pear wood and butt-jointed to the model:

 

 

 

The cornices that form the end here are again partially curved. I experimented a little and steamed the rather stiff boxwood mouldings (7/10 mm) in the cooking pot and shaped them. This works quite well for continuous curves, from which the segments for the side pockets are cut, the attempt for the balcony railing went wrong, I then discarded that and chose another way:

 

 

 

 

In principle, this consists of building a jig in which the moulding is fixed and the profile is profiled to its final shape. The advantage is that there is no need for hot forming or the use of force if it doesn't quite fit and the profile follows the mould neatly. The disadvantage, of course, is that the curved ends always run slightly against the fibre, which makes the profiling process somewhat laborious.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here are the first cornices fitted to the model, the accuracy of fit is quite good:

 

 

 

Finally, I continued working on the interior.
I've had some feedback that my choice of colours is not authentic and that the colour scheme is definitely too strong.
However, I have somehow fallen in love with this petrol shade and find it quite suitable. The bold interior colours are also not completely untypical for the Baroque period; you can find something similar in residential buildings. The colour restraint only really became predominant again in Classicism with the imitation of the ideal material marble.
Anyway, I stuck with my colour and painted the stern bench, rudder head box and panels the same colour.

 

 

 

 

Best regards,
Matthias

 

[Chuck]

That looks fantastic.  Really nice detailing.

[druxey]

Nice work on the moldings. The angled joints are also very neatly done!

[albert]

Fantastic work.

[tartane]

Yesterday I saw your report on this project for the first time. Great to see and read! I will follow you because I am very curious about the sculptures you are going to make. I built a few ships that involved quite a bit of carving on a scale of 1:87. I made that from pear wood that I selected from old utensils.

I plan to build a state yacht on that scale but I hesitate because I don't know if I can finish the many sculptures. I hope to learn something from your reports about materials and methods.

Constant

[Beckmann]

Hi Tartane,

Thank you for your message, I hope to begin with the carvings in 3-4 months. 

Matthias

 

[Beckmann]

Dear colleagues,
thanks for the likes and comments,
As a short addendum to my previous post, here are three more pictures of the now completed ‘underste Kajyt’,

 

 

 

 

best regards,
Matthias