wvdhee Posted March 3 Author #31 Posted March 3 With patience and perseverance I managed to get the metalwork on the bulwarks and deck done. Quite happy with it all 🙂 Started on the guns, well just one for now to see how to do it and what paints etc... I don't know yet if I'll rig the guns, I will probable try and see how that goes. Blue Ensign, ccoyle, Glenn-UK and 10 others 13 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
Thukydides Posted March 5 #32 Posted March 5 Looking good, I would recommend at least doing the breach rope for the guns. Personally I feel that rigging them is worth the effort as I like my ships to look a bit cluttered, but those tiny blocks are a bit of a pain to rig. Mr Whippy and wvdhee 2 Quote Current Builds: HMS Perseus (Scratch) Completed Builds: Type VII C U Boat (HobbyBoss); HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models)
wvdhee Posted March 5 Author #33 Posted March 5 5 hours ago, Thukydides said: Looking good, I would recommend at least doing the breach rope for the guns. Personally I feel that rigging them is worth the effort as I like my ships to look a bit cluttered, but those tiny blocks are a bit of a pain to rig. I might do that yes, or rigging them off ship to have more room and then install all at once? Thukydides and Mr Whippy 2 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
Thukydides Posted March 5 #34 Posted March 5 5 hours ago, wvdhee said: I might do that yes, or rigging them off ship to have more room and then install all at once? Yes rigging them off the ship using a jig is way easier. If you take a look at my log I show how I did this for the gun tackle. On the breaching ropes I would recommend not attaching the ring bolts to the cannons (I had a harder time because I didn't think of this at the time), that way you can do the entire rigging of the breaching rope off model on a jig and then glue them in as you attach everything to the model. I saw a log which did this recently, but I can't remember where. If I find it I will post a link for you. CiscoH, wvdhee and Mr Whippy 3 Quote Current Builds: HMS Perseus (Scratch) Completed Builds: Type VII C U Boat (HobbyBoss); HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models)
wvdhee Posted March 5 Author #35 Posted March 5 3 hours ago, Thukydides said: Yes rigging them off the ship using a jig is way easier. If you take a look at my log I show how I did this for the gun tackle. On the breaching ropes I would recommend not attaching the ring bolts to the cannons (I had a harder time because I didn't think of this at the time), that way you can do the entire rigging of the breaching rope off model on a jig and then glue them in as you attach everything to the model. I saw a log which did this recently, but I can't remember where. If I find it I will post a link for you. Thanks! I'm sure I saw your blog, but will check again. It's not for today anyway, so no rush. Mr Whippy 1 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
wvdhee Posted March 6 Author #36 Posted March 6 Channels and deadeyes. That kinda finishes the hull 😃 Apart from the retouching that I'll undoubtedly do, but overall quite pleased 😊 Right, all hands on deck then! Guns first now... TJM, rvchima, AJohnson and 9 others 12 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
wvdhee Posted March 7 Author #37 Posted March 7 (edited) Guns. Been busy on the side to try out one gun, to see what paints to use and how it all looked. For the carriage the same red as the bulwarks obviously and for the gun I settled on one thin coat of Tamiya TS30 (my go to 'primer' whenever I do objects that are metal in real) and one thin coat of Revell anthracite matt (number 9) . The latter takes hours to dry so and when it's touch dry I rub the gun with my finger a little bit and the metal primer shows through a little bit. On a carriage and on the boat it looks quite good I think 🙂 I'm starting to like the macro lens 😉 Edited March 7 by wvdhee forgot some pics TJM, Glenn-UK, whitejamest and 11 others 14 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
flutlo6180 Posted March 9 #38 Posted March 9 You build is looking great. wvdhee, Mr Whippy and AJohnson 2 1 Quote Ken Current Build Fair American - Model Shipways Completed Builds 18TH Century Merchantman Half Hull Planking Kit - NRG San Juan Felucca - OcCre HM Cutter Alert - 1777 - Vanguard
Theodosius Posted March 11 #39 Posted March 11 Finished hull looks great! wvdhee, Mr Whippy and AJohnson 2 1 Quote
wvdhee Posted March 12 Author #40 Posted March 12 Fun with ropes and guns 😉 Breeching ropes only, I don't have all the hardware (eyes, blocks) to fully rig them and not sure I want to. Scottish Guy, ccoyle, Mr Whippy and 7 others 10 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
wvdhee Posted March 15 Author #41 Posted March 15 And now the hull and all the guns are done 😃 sure some retouching when the macro camera spots something. Quite happy how it turned out tbh, now started with the masts and the rigging stress is lurking, I can feel it 😬 TJM, KurtH, oakheart and 10 others 13 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
AJohnson Posted March 15 #42 Posted March 15 That’s a fine row of cannons, very neat looking. wvdhee 1 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight
rvchima Posted March 15 #43 Posted March 15 Walter, How did you spread the rings that go around the deadeyes? I am having trouble inserting the deadeyes without damaging the finish. Rod Quote Rod Current Build - HMS Sphinx, 20 Gun Frigate from 1775 Previous Builds Bismarck, WWII German Battleship, Prinz Eugen, WWII German Heavy Cruiser (Aeronaut), U-Boat 47 (Amati), HM Bark Endeavour (Caldercraft), US Brig Syren (MS), Arno XI Ferrari Hydroplane (Amati), Osberg Viking Ship (Billings), Anteo Harbour Tug (Panart), Marie Felling Harbour Tug (Caldercraft), Arleigh-Burke guided missile destroyer (Bluejacket) Seguin, Steam Tug from 1884, Mississippi Steamboat Robert E. Lee (Amati)
Thukydides Posted March 15 #44 Posted March 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, rvchima said: Walter, How did you spread the rings that go around the deadeyes? I am having trouble inserting the deadeyes without damaging the finish. Rod A bit of damage is inevitable. I also had trouble on alert. I just used pliers gently to pry it apart and then touched up the damaged parts with black paint afterwards. I believe some people blacken with the deadeyes on, but you probably want to test this before committing. Edited March 15 by Thukydides Quote Current Builds: HMS Perseus (Scratch) Completed Builds: Type VII C U Boat (HobbyBoss); HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models)
wvdhee Posted March 15 Author #45 Posted March 15 3 hours ago, rvchima said: Walter, How did you spread the rings that go around the deadeyes? I am having trouble inserting the deadeyes without damaging the finish. Rod Damage is inevitable yes and I blackened them again indeed with the deadeyes attached. Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
wvdhee Posted March 15 Author #46 Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Thukydides said: A bit of damage is inevitable. I also had trouble on alert. I just used pliers gently to pry it apart and then touched up the damaged parts with black paint afterwards. I believe some people blacken with the deadeyes on, but you probably want to test this before committing. I did that yes, what you said last. It didn't do any damage to the deadeyes, but I now see I have to retouch with paint anyway, so that's probably the way to go. CiscoH 1 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
wvdhee Posted March 20 Author #47 Posted March 20 The masts then. More work then I had thought actually, maybe also because the step-by-step instruction manual has ended here and it's measuring and looking at the big, highly detailed plans. The wood for the lower masts was a lot darker than the rest (see bowsprit), not a biggy, I quite like it tbh. There's no need to glue the masts in place imo, the fit is quite snug and the rigging will hold it. Same for top masts and bowsprit. On we go! 😊 Oh and spring has begun 😃 AJohnson, KARAVOKIRIS, KurtH and 6 others 9 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
wvdhee Posted March 23 Author #48 Posted March 23 Shrouds being installed. Quite stressful with the shipyard inspector on site 😬 Pfälzer, DB789, Mr Whippy and 14 others 15 1 1 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
rvchima Posted March 31 #49 Posted March 31 The Flirt is attacked by a giant mythical beast! DB789, wvdhee and Doreltomin 1 2 Quote Rod Current Build - HMS Sphinx, 20 Gun Frigate from 1775 Previous Builds Bismarck, WWII German Battleship, Prinz Eugen, WWII German Heavy Cruiser (Aeronaut), U-Boat 47 (Amati), HM Bark Endeavour (Caldercraft), US Brig Syren (MS), Arno XI Ferrari Hydroplane (Amati), Osberg Viking Ship (Billings), Anteo Harbour Tug (Panart), Marie Felling Harbour Tug (Caldercraft), Arleigh-Burke guided missile destroyer (Bluejacket) Seguin, Steam Tug from 1884, Mississippi Steamboat Robert E. Lee (Amati)
allanyed Posted March 31 #50 Posted March 31 The cat has me scared being so close to the model, (which looks really great.) Love the planking and seeing belaying pins that are to scale. Kudos to both Vanguard and you. Looking at various cannon barrel patterns from the 18th century I cannot find barrels that look like these. Do you know what pattern these are? Thanks! Allan Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
chris watton Posted March 31 #51 Posted March 31 21 minutes ago, allanyed said: The cat has me scared being so close to the model, (which looks really great.) Love the planking and seeing belaying pins that are to scale. Kudos to both Vanguard and you. Looking at various cannon barrel patterns from the 18th century I cannot find barrels that look like these. Do you know what pattern these are? Thanks! Allan 😡 ccoyle, DB789, glbarlow and 2 others 4 1 Quote Vanguard Models on Facebook
wvdhee Posted March 31 Author #52 Posted March 31 34 minutes ago, allanyed said: The cat has me scared being so close to the model, (which looks really great.) Love the planking and seeing belaying pins that are to scale. Kudos to both Vanguard and you. Looking at various cannon barrel patterns from the 18th century I cannot find barrels that look like these. Do you know what pattern these are? Thanks! Allan Thanks Allan for the compliment. About the guns, they're 4 pounders. Since Flirt never did anything really (apart from being gorgeously pretty), she was probably armed with whatever was lying around. I haven't found pics from the time. Concerning their accuracy, I still haven't managed to fire them... Should ask Chris about that 😊 chris watton, TJM, Glenn-UK and 2 others 5 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
wvdhee Posted April 2 Author #53 Posted April 2 Shrouds, futtocks, etc.. Advancing slowly, I'm a bit new at rigging to be honest, so I'm taking my time. And it's actually a lot of work imo. I'll need to tidy up all these little knots, will do after the ratlines 😃 SUBaron, Scottish Guy, DB789 and 8 others 11 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
Thukydides Posted April 2 #54 Posted April 2 Looking good, she does have really nice lines. It is a great moment when you get the shrouds and stays in place, I feel it is the moment they start to look like a sailing ship. Slow is good on the rigging, lots of skills and tricks to learn. By the time you are done you will finally start to know what you are doing 😄. rvchima, DB789, AJohnson and 1 other 4 Quote Current Builds: HMS Perseus (Scratch) Completed Builds: Type VII C U Boat (HobbyBoss); HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models)
wvdhee Posted April 2 Author #55 Posted April 2 37 minutes ago, Thukydides said: Looking good, she does have really nice lines. It is a great moment when you get the shrouds and stays in place, I feel it is the moment they start to look like a sailing ship. Slow is good on the rigging, lots of skills and tricks to learn. By the time you are done you will finally start to know what you are doing 😄. Haha, true that! 😄 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
wvdhee Posted April 7 Author #56 Posted April 7 Shrouds and ratlines done. It took me a few attempts to get the ratlines right and to get into the groove of hitches and cloves 😉 But once I knew how it went rather quickly. I feared the ratlines tbh, but bring on that big 3 master 😃 It's not perfect imo, so I really need another ship to improve... I started rigging the bowsprit. Once that's done I'll allow myself a little woodworking interlude, still haven't done the yards and all, it'll be good to do something else than rigging. chris watton, AJohnson, Thukydides and 8 others 11 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
TJM Posted April 7 #57 Posted April 7 Well done! You are overtaking me now 😅! I think your ratlines look fine, btw. BR TJM wvdhee 1 Quote Current Build: Danish Light Frigate 'Christiania', based on HMS Sphinx kit by Vanguard Models Completed Build: HMS Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models - 1:64
wvdhee Posted April 7 Author #58 Posted April 7 46 minutes ago, TJM said: Well done! You are overtaking me now 😅! I think your ratlines look fine, btw. BR TJM You're still a little bit ahead I think 😅 I'm happy with the ratlines yes, the futtock staves are a bit messy... TJM 1 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
TJM Posted April 7 #59 Posted April 7 36 minutes ago, wvdhee said: You're still a little bit ahead I think 😅 I'm happy with the ratlines yes, the futtock staves are a bit messy... Those were hard to do for sure! wvdhee 1 Quote Current Build: Danish Light Frigate 'Christiania', based on HMS Sphinx kit by Vanguard Models Completed Build: HMS Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models - 1:64
wvdhee Posted April 9 Author #60 Posted April 9 Working on the yards. Since I don't have a lathe I tried the drill method, but didn't like it a lot. So I resorted to a little thumb plane, little chisel, sandpaper and patience 😊 it's ok, not really slow tbh. I prefer this over power tools actually. KARAVOKIRIS, Thukydides and KurtH 3 Quote Walter. Current build: Thinking about it Finished build: HMS Flirt
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