sfotinos Posted March 28 Share #1 Posted March 28 Welcome... I was very excited when i was able to get chapters 1 & 2 for this new project. I already have my first question. When test fitting parts of the stem assembly the instructions suggest only sanding slightly on certain edges of each piece. However when I removed the pieces with no sanding, there is a slight gap. Is it appropriate to correct the other end? KARAVOKIRIS, Freebird, Ryland Craze and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freebird Posted March 28 Share #2 Posted March 28 What does the gap look like on the other side? Remember, the laser doesn't cut perfectly straight, so I would think that a slight adjustment on the other end would be appropriate. I'm sure that Chuck will chime in. Best Regards .... Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted March 29 Share #3 Posted March 29 Glad to see a build log. Yes…i actually have a photo of that. Which you posted. The circled areas (on one end or the other of a given joint) need to be sanded to close the gaps. The gaps are intentional and yes you will need to sand the end of the scarph on the opposite side to close the gaps. This will be especially true with each frame segment as the thick wood when laser cut leaves a curved and bevelled edge that wasnt easily remedied by just flipping the pieces on the laser cutter. So each piece will have one end that needs just a hair of sanding. See the page of the 1st chapter that explains this. Just a few swipes should do the trick. Chuck Freebird, Stuntflyer, druxey and 6 others 9 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted April 2 Author Share #4 Posted April 2 Just a quick little update. Needs some clean up and on to tapering. Seventynet, KARAVOKIRIS, Matt D and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rogers Posted April 2 Share #5 Posted April 2 Takes a bit of tapering to get the figurehead seated nicely. Ryland Craze 1 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted April 2 Share #6 Posted April 2 Indeed it does. That is looking very good. Hopefully we will have more build logs starting soon as well. Mr Whippy, CaptMorgan and Ryland Craze 3 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffT Posted April 3 Share #7 Posted April 3 soon. just got mine yesterday. Freebird and Mr Whippy 2 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freebird Posted April 3 Share #8 Posted April 3 I’ll also be starting a build log shortly, mine arrived yesterday. Thanks Chuck! Best Regards …. Rick Mr Whippy and JeffT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freebird Posted April 3 Share #9 Posted April 3 Chuck, Do you think a group build like the Winnie would be a good idea? Thoughts??? Best Regards ….Rick CaptMorgan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted April 3 Share #10 Posted April 3 Maybe...but seriously we need more than two build logs. If we can get that number up to ten or so then yes certainly. But of those who bought the first dozen or so kits, if we see 3 build logs it will be a lot. Lots of solitary builders out there unfortunately. Chuck Ryland Craze, Freebird, JeffT and 3 others 6 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted April 3 Author Share #11 Posted April 3 Thanks everyone for the feed back and likes! I'm not much of a wordsmith, so please excuse my crude presentation. I'm getting pretty close to having the taper finished, hopefully. Shawn Ryland Craze, Rustyj, dvm27 and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted April 3 Share #12 Posted April 3 That looks very good. A really nice start. davec and Ryland Craze 2 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted April 3 Author Share #13 Posted April 3 Chuck, I'm curious what you use to drill your treenail holes with? Manual or power? Shawn KentM and davec 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted April 3 Share #14 Posted April 3 Manual…pin vice. Takes forever but its the only way I do it. KentM, sfotinos, davec and 1 other 4 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted April 4 Author Share #15 Posted April 4 What size drill bit for the treenails using 25lb line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted April 4 Share #16 Posted April 4 I have no idea...I just pick one after testing it on scrap....I dont recall. Gregory 1 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolmaker Posted April 4 Share #17 Posted April 4 29 minutes ago, sfotinos said: What size drill bit for the treenails using 25lb line? I think using the breaking strain of the line as a size measurement can be misleading. It would be better to look for a correct diameter rather than the breaking strain. That way you would also know what size drill to use. Alternatively, measure the line with a vernier and buy the drill to suit. Gregory, davec and davyboy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted April 6 Share #18 Posted April 6 On 4/4/2024 at 9:01 AM, sfotinos said: What size drill bit for the treenails using 25lb line? I pulled out some of my 25lb line and with a #74 drill bit on a piece of scrap I got a nice tight fit. JpR62, JeffT, Ryland Craze and 2 others 5 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted April 6 Author Share #19 Posted April 6 Thanks rusty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolmaker Posted April 7 Share #20 Posted April 7 Apologies if this is drifting from your build but I feel it’s worth noting for people looking to build to scale. I just checked five different 25lb monofilament fishing lines and they were all different. The range was from 0.37mm to 0.52mm. Now 0.15mm which is .006 inch does not seem much, but the variation is actually more than 40%. Hence me suggesting it is better to know the required diameter rather than the breaking strain. Very nice start by the way. JeffT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted April 13 Author Share #21 Posted April 13 Building has been continuing, I'm about ready to finish gluing the front apron. Looking forward at the rising wood. However laying it on the plans, the slots for the floors progressively get wider and wider and don't match my plans. Sorry about the bad picture, maybe time to learn how to take a photo with the camera I bought six years ago? Thoughts? Rustyj, JeffT, KentM and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted April 13 Share #22 Posted April 13 You are good to go...that one element (keel assembly) on the plans printed at the incorrect scale. The laser parts are all correct so just keep going. The plans have been corrected. The guy at my printer must have grabbed the edge of that object in error and shrunk it horizontally (in Corel Draw). At least that is what he said happened. If you lay those pieces on the framing plan instead you will see they fit just fine. Chuck Stuntflyer, sfotinos, JeffT and 1 other 4 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted April 13 Author Share #23 Posted April 13 Thanks so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted April 30 Author Share #24 Posted April 30 Wondering if someone can answer my question. I'm getting to the end of the keel assembly and noticed this from Chuck's log. Notice there is gap between the upper apron. However the plans don't show this gap, mine matches the plans? Another pic from Chuck's log. I'm curious if I didn't this wrong or if things changed? Any help is appreciated. Thanks Shawn JeffT and KentM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted April 30 Share #25 Posted April 30 nope...You are good. I changed that part of the deadwood later on after I built it. The current plans are correct which match your parts which are also correct. It just made sense to change it after I built it the first time and makes building that area easier for all of you. My model and log will sometimes be slightly different as improvements are made after the fact....so just follow the plans and instructions and you will be fine. It will make adding the wing transom and creating the square tuck much easier. Ryland Craze, davyboy, KentM and 5 others 8 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted April 30 Share #26 Posted April 30 On 4/5/2024 at 7:48 PM, Rustyj said: a #74 drill bit Same bit I use Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted May 2 Author Share #27 Posted May 2 On 4/3/2024 at 1:15 PM, Freebird said: Chuck, Do you think a group build like the Winnie would be a good idea? Thoughts??? Best Regards ….Rick Chuck are there enough participants that we can start a group build? Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted May 2 Share #28 Posted May 2 Im not sure…i will check though. Its a ton of work to set up. Let me see what the guys think about it as well…meaning the mods and admin. CaptMorgan, KentM and Freebird 3 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventynet Posted May 2 Share #29 Posted May 2 I just received my package and will be starting a build log next week or so. Ian Rustyj, Stuntflyer, Chuck and 1 other 4 Quote Builds in progress - Speedwell - by Syren Ship Model Company Builds completed - Hayling Hoy - by David Antscherl - Naval Cutter Cheerful - by Syren Ship Model Company - Cape Cod Catboat - by Bluejacket - Gokstad - by Dusek - Ship's Boat - by Dusek - Brazzera - by MarisStella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted May 7 Author Share #30 Posted May 7 (edited) One completed keel assembly. Still needs finish applied, I may opt just to use sanding sealer. I'm not a huge fan of wipe-on poly. Everything pretty much fell together once things were tweaked just a bit. Couple of things... Be very careful with the knee of the head, I sneezed and broke one. When trimming the apron blocks, be sure to use a very sharp blade and very small slivers, as I chucked a couple I popped the first frame out of it's sprues (and yes I think USPS played football with my box, as most everything was detached). I'm going to look like Popeye after sanding all the char off these frames. I need to probably tackle putting the build board together before I get to far ahead of myself. Shawn Edited May 7 by sfotinos KentM, yvesvidal, CiscoH and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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