Bill Hime Posted November 16, 2013 Share #1 Posted November 16, 2013 Wow, FINALLY!!! It's here! I chose the Pride of Baltimore as my side build while building the USF Confederacy. I'm waiting to see if the Confed might be marked down during the holiday shopping season. So I ordered the Pride so I can dig in and get the doors of the C.W. Hime Shipyard open for business. Today's the day! This is a Model Shipways kit. I ordered it through ebay from a wholesale hobby outlet. As advertised, everything remains in it's original packaging. It even had an enclosed invoice dated 1999. Tonight the Admiral and I are taking inventory of the kit. I'm also paying close attention to the integrity of the wood since this kit has been sitting since 1999. I'm already planning on replacing the Basswood planking/decking with Boxwood. as of now, I do not plan on painting the Pride except for her mast where black is noted. I have built cabinets of the highest grade. I have done historical restoration in libraries, manor homes and more. But I do not kid myself for a moment, this is a very different endeavor. Here, among all of you, I find myself once again an apprentice. I look forward to the challenge and most of all learning, adding to my skill set, and perusing what has beckoned me my entire life, building tall ships. I welcome all of you to pick up a chisel, choose your favorite mortise and set a peg! Warm Regards, Bill Hime mtaylor, egkb, olliechristo and 2 others 5 Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted November 16, 2013 Share #2 Posted November 16, 2013 Cool - a front row seat! Take your time and enjoy! Bill Hime 1 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenr Posted November 16, 2013 Share #3 Posted November 16, 2013 Hi Bill I will also book a seat for your build It will be most interesting to watch you use your considerable skills to build a model tall ship Regards Ken Bill Hime 1 Quote Under construction US Brig Niagara Completed HMB Endeavour - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted November 16, 2013 Share #4 Posted November 16, 2013 (edited) I'm in! Kit looks to be in prime condition. Now unroll those plans and flatten 'em out Edited November 16, 2013 by Augie Bill Hime 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share #5 Posted November 16, 2013 Augie, Lol, yeah those plans have been rolled up since 1999, they were tighter than a cuban cigar! So we reverse rolled them, we are letting them sit overnight and tomorrow we will lay them out and press them. Tomorrow I will start building my ship board, which will be used throughout the construction process with multiple attachments. I will post pictures of my build board as I know everyone is always looking for a new idea. Kenr, Thank you so much for joining. I am truly excited to get started, but as I said, I walk in this as a humble apprentice and I look forward to everyone's input. Warm regards, Bill augie 1 Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share #6 Posted November 16, 2013 Well, the itemization is finished; all items accounted for and in good shape! Thanks to the admiral's involvement, every stick and piece has been labelled, numbered and packaged in it's groups for easy access during the build. I can't thank her enough, what a great start ! Bill Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 16, 2013 Share #7 Posted November 16, 2013 I hope I made it to the front row..... and someone's already setup the popcorn machine... Bill Hime 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnharv2 Posted November 16, 2013 Share #8 Posted November 16, 2013 Oops! I forgot the popcorn! Sjors, do you have some? I guess I have to take a seat in the back now Harvey Bill Hime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted November 16, 2013 Share #9 Posted November 16, 2013 Don't forget to return the favor when her ship comes in mtaylor and Bill Hime 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barthslb Posted November 16, 2013 Share #10 Posted November 16, 2013 Hi Bill - I built the Pride myself a couple of years ago, with the help of Bob Hunt's practicum. I highly recommend it although a bit pricey. I'd also suggest a book, "Pride of the Sea", which details the building of the first Pride and it's tragic demise. I'll look forward to following your progress. Steve B. Bill Hime 1 Quote Steve Barth Douglasville, Ga. USA Current build: AL King of the Mississippi Previous builds: Midwest Skipjack MS Pride of Baltimore MS Bounty Launch Bluejacket USS Monitor Bluejacket CSS Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share #11 Posted November 17, 2013 Hello Everyone! Wayne, Mark, Harvey, There are no back row seats. That's why the shop is in the living room, Lol! Front row for everyone! Now where is that popcorn machine????? Augie, I bought the Admiral a new front door today. Installing it tomorrow before football starts at noon Steve B. Thank you for following! That's great to hear that someone else has built the Pride of Baltimore. Haven't been able to find any build logs on her. I look forward to your input. And thanks for the book suggestion. I love researching and totally becoming immersed in a project. Well, tomorrow after a morning door install for the Admiral, I will get busy on my build board. Hope to have it done and be cutting out bulkheads and doing some initial dry fitting. Warm Regards, Bill augie 1 Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share #12 Posted November 22, 2013 Well with a new front door behind me and some 12 hour shifts knocked off the calender, it's time to get back to the shipyard. The Admiral and I have all the lumber measured, counted and tagged. Same with all the misc hardware. I laid out my build board today, hoping to put the router to it tomorrow. Tonight, numbering bulkheads and cutting a few out before I have to go to work at 10:30pm. I will put up some pics this weekend showing my steps, keeping in mind that this log would be viewed by someone new to ship modeling, (like me ). It will also keep me in short accounts and not getting ahead of myself. Warm Regards, Bill Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPett Posted November 22, 2013 Share #13 Posted November 22, 2013 Ahoy Bill Looking forward to your progress Bill Hime 1 Quote On with the Show.... J.Pett “If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill) Current build: MS Rattlesnake (MS2028) http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/ Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762 On the back burner: 1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/ Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted November 22, 2013 Share #14 Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) Let's go! And Bon Voyage. Edited November 22, 2013 by Augie Bill Hime 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted November 22, 2013 Share #15 Posted November 22, 2013 Great to see you started Bill, and lucky that there are only front row seats here. I look forward to enjoying the ride with you. Bill Hime 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted November 22, 2013 Share #16 Posted November 22, 2013 Looking forward to your build Bill and the first progress pictures. Bill Hime 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcreekdad Posted November 23, 2013 Share #17 Posted November 23, 2013 Looking forward to your build. Bill Hime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share #18 Posted November 28, 2013 As you can see, the shipyard has finally come to life! Here you can see that everything has been inventoried, separated and tagged. Upon examining the laser cut sheet stock, I found the center keel sheet and the bulkhead sheet to a lesser extent, were cupped. Something I will keep in mind when gluing and squaring the hull frame. Next, then, all the bulkheads and the center keel have been removed, with the center keel given a light sanding. Bulkheads have been lettered and each marked with a reference line. At this point, I have put a lot of thought into changes I want to make to this kit. I plan on incorporating Wenge Wood into the keel and rudder, as well as the deck railings and plank sheers. I will also be using boxwood instead of basswood for the hull planking and I will be using Yellowheart for the decking. Here below are an example of two of the woods. I am going to cut out the keel pieces and plank sheers and use them as a finishing template for these pieces. I will use the laser cut outline, then, to lay the pieces out directly on the hardwood for cutting so they will be larger than needed. From here they will be rough cut and finished. Below, you can see that I have laid out dimensional stock on each of the pieces to determine how much wood would be needed and what size pieces of wood I would fit them into. So tonight, I will be gluing up the center keel and pressing it under some weight as it dries. Tomorrow is Thanksgiving so it'll be back to the shipyard on Friday for some bulkhead gluing. Until then, happy Thanksgiving to all you guys and have a great holiday! Warm regards, Bill Beef Wellington, Trussben, JPett and 3 others 6 Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted November 28, 2013 Share #19 Posted November 28, 2013 Hi Bill If that false keel is still warped after it is joined you must flatten it. I had this problem and got the keel flattened by wetting it, heavily weighting it and drying it several times over. It finally flattened. DO NOT put the bulkheads onto a warped keel - it will cause you no end of problems later. I'm sure you know this. Look forward to your build and the interesting timbers you are planning to incorporate into it. I used boxwood for my hull and it is a very nice timber to work with, so much better than walnut which is, comparatively, brittle and splinters more easily. Cheers Alistair Bill Hime 1 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share #20 Posted November 28, 2013 Alistair, Thanks for popping in! Yes, you are right about needing to get the center keel (false keel) straight. If I need to address it after gluing and pressing, I will most likely score the offending areas, fill with glue and press until dry Warm Regards, Bill mtaylor 1 Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted November 28, 2013 Share #21 Posted November 28, 2013 Hi Bill, Sorry that I'am to late to the party. The start is good. I will follow you further on in silence ( ok, now and then I will comment ) Bill Hime, augie and trippwj 3 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted November 28, 2013 Share #22 Posted November 28, 2013 Hi bill, good to see you starting. I have to agree about flattening out the bulkhead former before doing anything else as per alistair, I have found that soaking the ply in water and then drying out over a day or so works well, just don't soak the ply to long as the glue between the plys will make it come apart. Whatever way you decide to do it, just make sure the former is perfectly strait or you will be in for trouble. Look forward to watching your build. Ben Bill Hime 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 28, 2013 Share #23 Posted November 28, 2013 You're off to a great start, Bill. I agree with with others about the keel and being straight. Oh.. while you are at it, scatter some sawdust on that work area so the rest of us don't feel bad. capnharv2, Sjors, Bill Hime and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted November 28, 2013 Share #24 Posted November 28, 2013 You two have done a fine job with the workshop. VERY nice. And that's a great looking selection of wood. And yup, straighten that bulkhead former. We don't want you building a banana. Best of the Holiday! Sjors, Bill Hime and mtaylor 3 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sport29652 Posted November 29, 2013 Share #25 Posted November 29, 2013 Love your work area ! Can't wait to see your work. Bill Hime 1 Quote Eric Current build(s) ; AL San Francisco II http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/862-san-francisco-2-by-eric-al-190-sport29652/ MS Rattlesnake http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/868-rattlesnake-by-eric-model-shipways-164-sport29652/page-2 Sitting on the shelf : MS Constitution, MS Sultana, Wish List : MS Essex, Confederacy, and Syren, and a Victory kit by someone ? "80% of the time it works every time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share #26 Posted December 1, 2013 So here is last night's dry fitting of the bulkheads, as you can see, bulkheads G-K do not sit down in their slots. The next series of pictures are of the center keel after pressing. She still is a good 1/32" off of being straight, so I am going to score, glue and clamp her for about 24-48 hours and see how that comes out. In doing all this, the biggest problem I have come across tonight is that bulkheads G-K are significantly cupped. Pressing them is not out of the question but the bigger issue I am running into, is that unlike newer kits, my bulkhead and false keel are all made out of true lumber and are not plywood. Fixing plywood is much simpler than fixing such thin pieces of wood that have sat in a box since 1999. So with that said, we will see how the keel turns out when I pull it out of the clamps, scoring is not an option as with the bulkheads I would have to run with the grain, whereas with the keel I was running across the grain. In the meantime I will be cutting out my keel, stem and stern post and making templates to transfer them onto the Wenge wood that I have selected as their replacement. Any thoughts are more than welcome. Looking forward to hearing what you have to say, in the meantime, I'll keep working away because there is always something that needs to be done in the shipyard. Warm regards, Bill egkb and trippwj 2 Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted December 1, 2013 Share #27 Posted December 1, 2013 Great you picked your ship Bill! Hope for some pics soon! Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudomekh Posted December 1, 2013 Share #28 Posted December 1, 2013 ... I would at least partially filled em space wenge think not particularly suitable for the construction of the model (especially small scale) .... I just did the gunwale of his 1/50 trippwj and Beef Wellington 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted December 1, 2013 Share #29 Posted December 1, 2013 I always wanted to see Wenge wood on a model ship! Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudomekh Posted December 1, 2013 Share #30 Posted December 1, 2013 I always wanted to see Wenge wood on a model ship! I am sorry that climbed on foreign territory)))))) please ... you wenge then had to redo ... trippwj and proc94 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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