druxey Posted October 10, 2016 Share #601 Posted October 10, 2016 Although leave the bevels full to allow for miniscule misalignment when assembling. The last thing you want to discover at the end of all that framing is that things won't quite fair out. Have fun! Canute, mtaylor, AON and 1 other 4 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted October 11, 2016 Share #602 Posted October 11, 2016 Nice work and some good progress Alan cheers Pat Canute, mtaylor and AON 3 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnobiumPunctatum Posted October 11, 2016 Share #603 Posted October 11, 2016 I wish you a lot of fun with frameing your model. And let the pictures come mtaylor, AON and Canute 3 Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share #604 Posted October 16, 2016 Sunday 16 Oct 2016 Some minor progress. This is much harder than it seems. I hope to be better at framing soon. mmdd, aviaamator, albert and 19 others 22 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 16, 2016 Share #605 Posted October 16, 2016 Looking good, Alan. Yeah, it's harder than it looks but the satisfaction when things start coming together makes it worthwhile. Right? cog and Canute 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted October 16, 2016 Share #606 Posted October 16, 2016 Did anyone say this was easy stuff? It's a big commitment and a big learning curve. But you are obviously on your way. Those are rather large nuts/weights you are using! Or is your model smaller than I'm visualizing? Canute, mtaylor, AnobiumPunctatum and 2 others 5 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share #607 Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) Thank you Mark and Druxey. Re: the nuts.... the are very manly. Edited October 17, 2016 by AON BANYAN, Canute, cog and 2 others 5 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrotten Highlander Posted October 16, 2016 Share #608 Posted October 16, 2016 Re; the nuts.... the are very manly. (in French accent) ... Bighead AON, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam Slainte gu mhath L.H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted October 17, 2016 Share #609 Posted October 17, 2016 I was trying to avoid going there.... The moderators may shut you down. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms10 Posted October 18, 2016 Share #610 Posted October 18, 2016 Did anyone say this was easy stuff? It's a big commitment and a big learning curve... Yeah, if it was easy then everybody would be doing it. Tom Canute, mtaylor and druxey 3 Quote Attitude is the difference between ordeal and adventure. Finished: Charles W. Morgan, scratch 1:96 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30666-charles-w-morgan-1841-scratch-196-pob-by-toms10 Finished: HMS Leopard, scratch 1:85 https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/album/2403-hms-leopard-scale-185 Finished: Constellation AL Kit, scale - 1:85 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/1383-constellation-al-185-by-tom-szabo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted October 21, 2016 Share #611 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Hi Alan, I somehow missed your progress here, just amazing what you've accomplished from start to finish. I appreciate you sharing your learning curve and your beautiful ship with us. I wan to go back again and read from the start Edited October 21, 2016 by Beef Wellington mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share #612 Posted October 25, 2016 Thank you Jason. I would have responded earlier but I threw my back out Friday morning and this is the first I could sit at the computer. It is aching a bit so I going to be gone a bit yet. Canute, mtaylor and Don9of11 3 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 26, 2016 Share #613 Posted October 26, 2016 I don't like that your back went out, Alan. I like that you have healed enough to respond. I'm just watching quietly and enjoying your build. Canute and druxey 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 26, 2016 Share #614 Posted October 26, 2016 Take care of that back, Alan. We can wait, and so can your build. mtaylor, Canute and druxey 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted October 26, 2016 Share #615 Posted October 26, 2016 Know the feeling Alan; give it a good rest we can wait. cheers Pat mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted October 27, 2016 Share #616 Posted October 27, 2016 Well, that sucks. Hope you recover quickly, Alan. Canute, mtaylor and cog 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share #617 Posted November 13, 2016 Saturday 12 Nov 2016 Been away from it too long but feeling up to it again. Today I fitted the chocks between the frames. Presently the glue is drying and setting. Tomorrow I will drill and install the bolts and start on the next set of frames. I chose to install the top most chock first to set the space properly. Subsequent (lower) installations were a bit of a challenge as the more I installed the less I could pry the frame open to receive the chock. Each was sanded down to fit snugly. I filed vertical grooves (pockets) into the chocks to hold the glue because most would be scraped away as the chock was slid into place. The lowest ones were the worst as they were very thin. I wanted to installed one more lower as they should be in groups of three between joints but it was a bit too thin for me. I might try tomorrow when I'm fresh. Presently the whole table is covered to keep the dust off over night. I do this after every session. PeteB, Landrotten Highlander, Don9of11 and 10 others 13 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert Posted November 13, 2016 Share #618 Posted November 13, 2016 Very nice work Alan. AON, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Y Posted November 13, 2016 Share #619 Posted November 13, 2016 Great idea with the "glue pockets"! AON, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted November 13, 2016 Share #620 Posted November 13, 2016 Allan, Good to see you back at the workbench.I hope those chocks get slightly bigger the further you get ... that would make them a bit easier to handle ... looks promising though Canute, AON and mtaylor 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share #621 Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) All: Thank you for he likes. It is very encouraging. I was telling my darling wife about the missing last chock and even she asked: "will anyone see it?".... I could only respond that I see it now. Carl: so do I! It is because they are cant frames. Once I get out of this area (and those at the bow) I should be "smoother sailing". Edited November 13, 2016 by AON aviaamator, Mike Y, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviaamator Posted November 13, 2016 Share #622 Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) Great job! I'd like to learn subsequent models to build in this style! I am sure that family support is very important for the Hobbist! Edited November 13, 2016 by aviaamator Canute, AON and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share #623 Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) Sunday 13 Nov 2016 I managed to sand and install the last two chocks. My first attempt at sanding ended in the part disappearing under the stop (because it was so thin at 0.02" or 0.46mm) and being sucked up by the vacuum. The chocks are hemlock and measure 10" in height (approx 5/32"). They are 9" on the plan but at this build scale who can tell the difference. Drilled and installed the bolts into the frame and through the chocks then trimmed flush. Cut and milled a blank of Costello 0.079" thick for the next frame set. Cut that length in half and rubber glued them together, clamped and ready to trace the template and cut the frame pieces in matching pairs. Edited November 14, 2016 by AON popash42, aviaamator, MarisStella.hr and 12 others 15 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share #624 Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Saturday 28 JAN 2017 It has been I while since I posted any progress... it goes rather slowly. I've been putting more hours into a paper for work than into my model... plus I am getting injections in my left eye to correct a condition with my vision. It has affected modelling and my day job. I spend hours reading engineering drawings and documents. I have branch retinal vein occlussion caused by macular edema. I have a fluid build up (bump) at the back of my eye very near the focal point that causes lines and print to pull together. I occasionally still see a fine black dot due to my last (first) injection. Two more to go and hopefully the fluid pocket is gone and things reshape back to near normal or better yet.. normal. Modelling isn't a race but it does keep calling me downstairs. Edited January 28, 2017 by AON Don9of11, Landrotten Highlander, druxey and 15 others 18 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted January 28, 2017 Share #625 Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Hopefully your vision will stabilize in a good way, Alan. Those aft cants look nice so far to my eye! Edited January 28, 2017 by druxey Canute, WackoWolf, AON and 2 others 5 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert Posted January 28, 2017 Share #626 Posted January 28, 2017 Beautiful work Alan. Canute, AON, WackoWolf and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share #627 Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Thank you Druxey and Albert for the kind words and everyone else for following along. Edited January 28, 2017 by AON Canute, WackoWolf and mtaylor 3 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted January 28, 2017 Share #628 Posted January 28, 2017 Alan, Good to see you back at your build, even if it is slow and with minor updates. Will the injections help to cure the problem, or is just a temporary solution? Canute, mtaylor and WackoWolf 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share #629 Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) It will hopefully be a permanent correction but one never knows for certain. Edited January 29, 2017 by AON WackoWolf, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted January 28, 2017 Share #630 Posted January 28, 2017 I'll keep my fingers crossed for you mtaylor, Canute, AON and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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