Ulises Victoria Posted May 25, 2014 Author #91 Posted May 25, 2014 Hi Nick- Thanks for visiting and your comments. I want this ship to look used. So I want to give the decks a weathered appearance without being too overdone. I have a product called Weather-it. It's supposed to "age" unpainted wood, but unfortunately, that looks is lost when applying something over it like tung oil, boiled linseed oil or varnish. It seems like number 10 is the look I want.I will also do some weathering techniques on the hull, like applying a slight brick-red color dry brush around the gunports and a few water running marks as well as some rust where the anchors hang. Will see how this come out. Karleop, CaptainSteve, FrankWouts and 1 other 4 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Landlubber Mike Posted May 26, 2014 #92 Posted May 26, 2014 Hi Ulises, thanks very much for sharing the results of your finish experiment. I'm actually thinking of building the Charles Morgan whaler with a weathered appearance, and recently placed an order for Weather-It and a few other weathering applications. I was worried that adding a finish could affect the results of the application, and it seems like that might the case unfortunately Thanks for sharing, and wonderful build! Ulises Victoria 1 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
Ulises Victoria Posted May 27, 2014 Author #93 Posted May 27, 2014 Thank you Mike. I will post the definitive results once I have finished planking my decks. Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
mtdoramike Posted June 1, 2014 #94 Posted June 1, 2014 They have the Royal Louis kit on Ebay right now for $490.00 + $25.00 shipping. I'm sooooo tempted. But I have built a few Mamoli kits in the past and their quality seemed a bit lacking. http://www.ebay.com/itm/271478783703?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Quote
md1400cs Posted June 1, 2014 #95 Posted June 1, 2014 Ulises, I'm known to be skeptical (seller claims new), this price is probably even below mainstream vendors cost IMO. "If its too good to be true"....The seller does have an excellent history however. Certainly a beautiful ship. As some say its a crap shoot. Again I'm a very doubtful type. Michael Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa -
Ulises Victoria Posted June 1, 2014 Author #96 Posted June 1, 2014 That's OK, Michael, but I am not the one trying or wanting to buy the kit. I already have it. md1400cs 1 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
mtdoramike Posted June 2, 2014 #97 Posted June 2, 2014 I only posted it here in case someone seeing your build likes the model and would like to build it. It's not my auction, I would be building it instead of selling it if it were mine. I don't know if the seller in a vendor or just some guy who thought the model looked cool in the hobby shop and paid the retail price only to realize it was more than he could handle and is now just trying to unload it and recoop some of his money back. This kit retails for like $900.00-$1000.00 in a hobby shop, but there's no way they would get any where near that selling it on ebay or after market. But sorry to hijack your thread. Back to building Ulises Victoria 1 Quote
Ulises Victoria Posted June 2, 2014 Author #98 Posted June 2, 2014 That's cool mtdoramike Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
md1400cs Posted June 2, 2014 #99 Posted June 2, 2014 That's OK, Michael, but I am not the one trying or wanting to buy the kit. I already have it. Yes you do. And I am really enjoying following your build. Excellent work.... Michael Ulises Victoria 1 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa -
Auvergne Posted June 3, 2014 #100 Posted June 3, 2014 Nice choice for a build! I was wondering where you found it?? I am interested in French designed vessels but know nothing of where to find good kits. Presently working a Xebec and dare not to show photos as of yet since this is my first build I believe I will finish. Best wishes on your new journey! Quote Creativity Heart & Soul! Happy Model Ship Building Friends! John E.
Ulises Victoria Posted June 3, 2014 Author #101 Posted June 3, 2014 They have the Royal Louis kit on Ebay right now for $490.00 + $25.00 shipping. I'm sooooo tempted. But I have built a few Mamoli kits in the past and their quality seemed a bit lacking. http://www.ebay.com/itm/271478783703?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Ulises, I'm known to be skeptical (seller claims new), this price is probably even below mainstream vendors cost IMO. "If its too good to be true"....The seller does have an excellent history however. Certainly a beautiful ship. As some say its a crap shoot. Again I'm a very doubtful type. Michael Nice choice for a build! I was wondering where you found it?? I am interested in French designed vessels but know nothing of where to find good kits. Presently working a Xebec and dare not to show photos as of yet since this is my first build I believe I will finish. Best wishes on your new journey! I have to say that if I'm building this ship it's because I had the opportunity to buy it really cheap. I paid $450 USD at Model Expo in May 2010. Bindy 1 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Ulises Victoria Posted June 25, 2014 Author #103 Posted June 25, 2014 Update June 25 2014 I used balsa blocks to fill empty spaces. This is the first time I attempt something like this. I know it's not the cleanest of the jobs, but I think it will serve its purpose I had to modify the slots where the cannon frames go. They were not aligned properly. This is a job that has consumed a lot of my time because I know it's a very critical step. Here I am dry fitting the cannon frames to check that their height is correct so the carriages/cannons assemblies are properly aligned and that the cannons can fit through the openings. A lot of extra trimming/refilling had to be done here. md1400cs, coxswain, edmay and 4 others 7 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Karleop Posted June 25, 2014 #104 Posted June 25, 2014 Hola Ulises, it seems that you are going to accomplish another great model!! Saludos, Karl Ulises Victoria and Bindy 2 Quote Finished Models (Gallery): Pandora (Constructo), HMS Endeavour (AL), San FranciscoII (AL), Fishing boat (scratch), Vasa (Billing Boats) Construction logs: Vasa (Billing Boats) Pride of Baltimore II (M. Shipways)
dgbot Posted June 25, 2014 #105 Posted June 25, 2014 You are starting out well. Keep up the good work. David B Ulises Victoria 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
BANYAN Posted June 25, 2014 #106 Posted June 25, 2014 Hi Ulisis, that is taking shape nicely - these hidden fillers don't have to be neat just serve a purpose; the shaping is the more important. You are probably aware (but just in case) that balsa is very porous and as a gluing surface for planking can be problematic. The solution I was made aware of (I use balsa fillers also) is to coat the balsa with a diluted PVA / water solution to seal it but retain a good adhesive surface - I used 50/50 but this may not be the optimum. cheers Pat mtaylor, Bindy, Aussie048 and 1 other 4 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
Vivian Galad Posted June 25, 2014 #107 Posted June 25, 2014 Wow! Failed to see this one. That´s a big ship u got in there, Ulises! Buena suerte con elle! Great start ^_^ Ulises Victoria 1 Quote Current: Red Dragon (modified) by Vivian Galad - Artesania Latina - 1:60 Oseberg (modified) by Vivian Galad - Amati (1:50)Cocca Veneta by Vivian Galad - Corel - 1:70 Finished 15th Century Latin Caravel kit model from Artimanha models
marktiedens Posted June 25, 2014 #108 Posted June 25, 2014 Great start - as I recall the gunport frames were a real pain.My biggest problem was getting them filed down to the contour of the frames. /Mark Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways
Ulises Victoria Posted June 26, 2014 Author #109 Posted June 26, 2014 (Hmmmm I could swear I had posted this before!) Thank you all for your comment. Really appreciate it. Pat: Thanks for the tip. Will take it into account. I hadn't think of that. Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Ulises Victoria Posted June 26, 2014 Author #110 Posted June 26, 2014 Arthur: Yes...the lugs are a bit offset from the center of the frame.I try to put them all in the position where the frame is higher to get a better clearance for the guns. I am aware that they will not interfere with the laying of the upper decks afterwards. And also yes...I will have to carve a few holes there, but being balsa I don't see it as a major problem. Good observations Arthur.Thank you for your comments. Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Ulises Victoria Posted July 1, 2014 Author #111 Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Update July 1st. I finished gluing the metal cannon frames for both sides of the upper deck, and those of the starboard side of the two lower decks. They are different in shape. They seem to follow a reasonable smooth line across the hull, except at the point of the frame number 9 from right to left where it seems to be a slight jump. Hope this will not be too noticeable once the hull is planked, as it's supposed to follow a smooth curve following the wales. This is new stuff for me. It's taking me much time.First I had a really hard time trying to understand what the instructions were trying to say. After several tries, the light shone upon me and finally managed to decipher what they meant. (Some further alignment is still possible) Testing for proper height against a gun carriage Edited July 1, 2014 by Ulises Victoria Karleop, marktiedens, edmay and 5 others 8 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
demonborger Posted July 2, 2014 #112 Posted July 2, 2014 The metal gunports have a bracket at the back with a hole in the middle which you attach the dummy cannons to. The stern most gunport on the lower gundeck does look a bit too low i think. Did you run a couple of timber strips along the length? I actually didn't use the tab system and instead glue the top strip along the length, then glued the gunport to the bulkhead and then put on a wood strip along the length of the ship to touch the bottom of the gunports, then attached a vertical strip on the side opposite to the bulkhead. It seems sturdy enough and i found it easier than lining up the tabs. coxswain 1 Quote Kits owned: Mamoli Royal Louis, Mamoli Friesland, Mamoli HMS Victory 1:90, Occre Santisima Trinidad, Constructo HMS Prince
mtdoramike Posted July 2, 2014 #113 Posted July 2, 2014 WOW, you are right, that is quite a jump up from #9. Have you tried to temp lay a couple of planks and see how it was going to run? Mamoli Constitution uses these same metal gun ports. Trying to align them using the tabs was such a pain in the ____ I just decided to break off the tabs and then align and glue the gun ports myself and it turned out beautifly. But with all those gun ports, I can't see that being an option for you. But it looks like a good 1/8th inch jump up. Quote
Ulises Victoria Posted July 2, 2014 Author #114 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Well... thank you guys. Appreciate your comments. So some say that sternmost port is too low but didn't see the jump at 9th frame, which other saw. Well this is a work in progress, and much to be done yet. In any case, this may be another possibility: Since I'm planning not to leave all and every gunport open, but leave them randomly open, closed semiopen...(sorry I don't remember whos I took this idea from, which made look his ship much more realistic) it may be possible to "fake" an unaligned gunport with an aligned closed door. I think I'm going to study this other possibility. It will have an effect on the way second planking will be laid. Thanks again for visiting and your comments. Edited July 2, 2014 by Ulises Victoria Karleop, mtaylor and Bindy 3 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
dgbot Posted July 2, 2014 #115 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Many an alteration has hidded a mistake. Been there as well. Long before I joined a club I did a model of a Thames barge, not my greatest piece of work. All I remember was the bottom of the hull looked pretty bad. So I made a diorama and made it a waterline model. David B Edited July 2, 2014 by dgbot Ulises Victoria, edmay, Landlubber Mike and 1 other 4 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
Ulises Victoria Posted July 3, 2014 Author #116 Posted July 3, 2014 Gunports redux. Okay. I decided to re-do the upper gun ports using a strip of plank. They are now more precisely aligned with the deck above. Not perfect, but seems like perfection is still beyond my capabilities So now I made the ultra-super-high-tech jig you see below to measure the distance between high and low frames, and will start re-aligning them tomorrow, once the glue is dry. These frames are obviously a bit too low. After some work, they lay now parallel to the temporary plank. Inclination is easily fixed. Jig Cheers. FrankWouts, MarisStella.hr, avsjerome2003 and 8 others 11 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
mtdoramike Posted July 3, 2014 #117 Posted July 3, 2014 They do look a bit more in alignment now. Ulises Victoria and FrankWouts 2 Quote
Ulises Victoria Posted July 4, 2014 Author #118 Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) Update July 4. Happy 4th of July to you USA citizens!!! I modified the placement of many of the gun-ports. Not all of them, mind you. I think they look better now! The first planking will be laid so that the frames protrude and then they have to be filed/sanded down to level with the planking, so a lot can be corrected before that in terms of inclination, etc. Micro alignment is still possible without having to remove and re-install the frames, thanks to the flexibility of the soft metal lugs. As usual, comments will be very welcome. Cheers! Edited July 4, 2014 by Ulises Victoria MarisStella.hr, FrankWouts, dgbot and 5 others 8 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
marktiedens Posted July 4, 2014 #119 Posted July 4, 2014 Looking good. Have you checked the length of the dummy barrels so they don`t stick out too far? Just a thought. /Mark Ulises Victoria 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways
Jack Panzeca Posted July 4, 2014 #120 Posted July 4, 2014 Looks great, glad you caught it sooner rather than later. Quote Jack "I Love the smell of sawdust in the morning" apologies to John Melius Current Build: Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section Scratch Build Previous Builds: Oseberg Billing Boats 9th Century Viking Ship Modified Bluenose ll, AL, Lightly Bashed Louisa Morrison Half Hull, Scratch Build Photography Website: http://www.27birds.com
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