cpt. Tom Posted May 21, 2014 Share #1 Posted May 21, 2014 Hi Folks, today I started my new Project and my first Scratch Build Log. The "Gros Ventre" the Kings Gabare according to plans from Gérard Delacroix. I want to build the ship with pear wood and I hope i can handle it Here are my first steps: threaded bars....I hope this is right washers nuts and the Woodparts Now I´m waiting for the plans, they are one the way to me. Stay tuned avsjerome2003, 42rocker, catopower and 5 others 8 Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted May 21, 2014 Share #2 Posted May 21, 2014 Looking forward to this build. The LGV is a gorgeous ship. I have the Ancre monographs which are really well done. I wish I had the experience to tackle it Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt. Tom Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted May 22, 2014 Hello Mike, I have not the experience but I think.......learning by doing....... Thank you that you look further to my Build Log and enjoy your Day, we have nice weather here, sunny with no clouds......coooool....! Landlubber Mike and HB17 2 Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt. Tom Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share #4 Posted May 22, 2014 You are very welcome Brian, take a seat an enjoy yourself Brian the extraordinaire 1 Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 22, 2014 Share #5 Posted May 22, 2014 Tom, am waiting for the first pics of your keellaying of the LGV Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt. Tom Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share #6 Posted May 22, 2014 Me too Nils....me too Mirabell61 1 Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisLBren Posted May 22, 2014 Share #7 Posted May 22, 2014 Hi Tom, I will be watching your progress as well - wishing you the best. I also own this Monograph and hope to start her next year - in 1/36th scale. Chris Landlubber Mike and Jeronimo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt. Tom Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted May 22, 2014 You are welcome too Chris.....wow in 1/36 this is big and you can Install more details....great, I can´t wait to see the first pictures HB17 1 Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42rocker Posted May 22, 2014 Share #9 Posted May 22, 2014 Tom I also have the book and Plans. Good Luck to you and will try to follow along. Later Tim HB17 and Jeronimo 2 Quote Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sailor Posted May 22, 2014 Share #10 Posted May 22, 2014 Hi Tom I have the plans too and I look forward to following with big interest. HB17 and Jeronimo 2 Quote Cheers, Richard. ------------------------------Current build: Mercury, Russian brig, America's Cup Yacht Endeavour (1934), AmatiCompleted build: HM Schooner Pickle, JoTiKaNext: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrat Posted May 23, 2014 Share #11 Posted May 23, 2014 I will be watching your build with interest. I am halfway through the hull framing on my Gros Ventre. Are you buiding it fully framed? Dick HB17 1 Quote Current build: Le Gros Ventre 1:48 POF http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/564-le-gros-ventre-by-woodrat-scale-1-48-pof-1767-french-exploration-vessel/ Past builds: Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame:https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33384-mycenaean-war-galley-by-woodrat-148-shell-first-plank-on-frame Venetian round ship 14th century by Woodrat fully framed - 1:40 scale Completed https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/17991-venetian-round-ship-14th-century-by-woodrat-fully-framed-140-scale Venetian Carrack or Cocha 1/64 by woodrat https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4915-venetian-carrack-or-cocha-164-by-woodrat completed United States Frigate Essex 1:64 POF http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4496-usf-essex-by-woodrat-scale-1-64-fully-framed-from-takakjian-plans/ - completed Yenikapi12 by Woodrat - 1/16 scale - a small Byzantine merchant vessel of the 9th century https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23815-yenikapi12-by-woodrat-116-scale-a-small-byzantine-merchant-vessel-of-the-9th-century-finished/ The Incredible Hulc by Woodrat - an experimental reconstruction of a mediaeval transport https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25641-the-elusive-hulc-by-woodrat-finished-a-speculative-reconstruction-of-a-mediaeval-merchantman-132-plank-on-frame/ Location: Perth, Western Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt. Tom Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share #12 Posted May 23, 2014 Hello Dick, yes I want to try it, I mean "full framed" and it is absolutely great that so many guys have the plans and maybe you can help me with my experiment "scratch build" I'm still waiting on the plans, they are now one week on the way and France is a neighbor from Germany but it takes so much time until they are here. I know I'm impatient Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted May 23, 2014 Share #13 Posted May 23, 2014 Should prove to be an interesting build. I read Napier's book and found this model interesting. David B cpt. Tom 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 24, 2014 Share #14 Posted May 24, 2014 Hi Tom, I'm pulling up a chair also. I hope you'll have fun with this build. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt. Tom Posted May 24, 2014 Author Share #15 Posted May 24, 2014 Yes Sir, take a chair but you have to wait until next weekend then comes popcorn and beer..........hopefully Today came to the pear-wood in different strengthen but not the plans I love this very warm wood and the beautiful wood grain catopower, Jeronimo, Elmer Cornish and 2 others 5 Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reklein Posted May 24, 2014 Share #16 Posted May 24, 2014 Should be a fun project, but why"Gros Ventre" for a name. There is an indian tribe in Montana with that name and it means "Big Bellys" any way thats,what everyone calls them except for themselves. Just saying. Bill in Idaho Quote Bill, in Idaho Completed Mamoli Halifax and Billings Viking ship in 2015 Next Model Shipways Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt. Tom Posted May 24, 2014 Author Share #17 Posted May 24, 2014 This barge was used also for expeditions Bill and the Name " Gros Ventre - Big Belly" is right because this ship could take very much charge. More than other ones and this is why they named her "Big Belly" Yes, it is a funny name........but whatever HB17 1 Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisLBren Posted May 25, 2014 Share #18 Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) She's a transport ship - love the name ! That Pear is a very interesting in color - much paler than the Swiss Pear i see here in the US. Are you going to build exclusively in Pear ? Edited May 25, 2014 by ChrisLBren HB17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt. Tom Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share #19 Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) Hi Chris, yes I wanna do this and yes it is paler than the Swiss Pear, I love this one more and if you put a wood protection on it, it looks even better Look at this picture I put this on (I don´t know the English word for this) Edited May 25, 2014 by cpt. Tom HB17, Elmer Cornish and CaptainSteve 3 Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catopower Posted May 25, 2014 Share #20 Posted May 25, 2014 Hi Tom, I just recently lucked out and bought the monograph and plans through MSW/Chuck Passaro. It looks like a very nice ship and I'm hoping to tackle it someday, so I'll be eagerly following your build. I have been using pear wood myself on a current build, not swiss pear. I've really like the way it looks and I think you've made a great choice. Clare HB17 1 Quote Clare Hess He's a -> "HE" Current Builds HMS Wolf, 1754 - Shipyard Laser Cut Kit Kitamaebune - Japanese Coastal Trade Ship, 18th/19th Centuries - Woody Joe Kit Atakebune - Japanese Sengoku Period Warship - Woody Joe Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt. Tom Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share #21 Posted May 25, 2014 Thank you Clare and I wanna say thank you folks for all the "likes" you did. I hope I do not disappoint you Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 25, 2014 Share #22 Posted May 25, 2014 She's a transport ship - love the name ! That Pear is a very interesting in color - much paler than the Swiss Pear i see here in the US. Are you going to build exclusively in Pear ? Chris, There's two kinds of pear wood. The pear cut from the tree and allowed to dry and swiss pear which is the same wood but steamed which gives it the pink color. Both Hobbymill and the Lumberyard have both. cpt. Tom 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reklein Posted May 25, 2014 Share #23 Posted May 25, 2014 AHHHH! Now "Gros Ventre" makes sense. The use of pear wood is interesting because in the wood turning world any fruit wood is avoided because its relatively unstable. Partly I think because turners use much bigger chunks than do ship modelers. About 14 years ago I got some 4" diameter branches from a local orchard and cut it into a 4" thick billet but It still checked pretty bad. But I just checked and my 1" thick boards are pretty clear. Hmm maybe I have a project coming up. BILL Quote Bill, in Idaho Completed Mamoli Halifax and Billings Viking ship in 2015 Next Model Shipways Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt. Tom Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share #24 Posted May 26, 2014 Hi Bill, a friend in a German forum builds for many years his ships with pear wood and he also makes small round rods from the wood for deck support without problems. Of course I do not know how the wood looks in 50 years Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt. Tom Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share #25 Posted May 26, 2014 I have a question, what does that mean "POB" or "POF" in the heading of the build logs??? Jeronimo 1 Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt. Tom Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share #26 Posted May 26, 2014 Aaahhhhh ok thank you Brian, thank you Brian the extraordinaire and Jeronimo 2 Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeronimo Posted May 27, 2014 Share #27 Posted May 27, 2014 Hello Tom. I wish you much fun and succes in the construction of the model. Regards Karl Ich wünsche Dir viel Spaß und Erfolg bei dem Bau des Modelles, und werde den Baufortschritt verfolgen. Gruss Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt. Tom Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share #28 Posted May 27, 2014 It is an honor for me if you watch my build log, Karl and maybe you can give me some advices.......!!! I'm still waiting for the plans but nothing is happen until today Es ist eine Ehre für mich wenn Du meinen Baubericht verfolgst und vielleicht kannst Du mir einige Ratschläge geben, Karl. Danke Jeronimo 1 Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mau Posted May 27, 2014 Share #29 Posted May 27, 2014 Hi Tom, I started the construction of Les Gros Ventre about an year and a half but I have not started my scratch build log yet. As I live in Brazil, I have to mill my own wood, and It takes time and money (a lot!) because I had to buy the machines for the job. They are all from PROXXON. I'm using a wood called Peroba Rosa, and I'm still building the frames. I hope we can share our experiences, although I'm not a expert. First of all, be careful about the lenght of the pieces "f" and "d". In plates 1 and 4 they are longer than in plates 8, 15 and 23 (which are the proper length). Regards Mauricio HB17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt. Tom Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share #30 Posted May 28, 2014 Hi Folks, the plans are there........my goodness, looks a little bit difficult. Now I need to copy the plans and then cut the parts of. I think this coming weekend I'm doing the first images from my results Hola a Sao Paulo or Olá a São Paulo Hi Mauricio, a very warm welcome to my build log and thank you for the information you gave me. I´m take care about that and you are right they are longer as in 8 or 15. Peroba Rosa is a nice wood with a red touch but too dark for me, can you make some pictures for me?? Of course we can share our experiences but it is better if you start a build log too so that I can see what you're doing........!!! I'm not an expert too, this is my first scratch build and I have to figure out how this works catopower, Jeronimo, archjofo and 4 others 7 Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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