Shazmira Posted March 16, 2013 Author #91 Posted March 16, 2013 Sjors, nope, no gaps this time...I really am happy with that! And you know I believe I have a pair of those gloves out in my old tackle box....think it might be a good idea to go dig them out, thanks for the suggestion! avsjerome2003 1 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
fish Posted March 16, 2013 #92 Posted March 16, 2013 Hey Robbyn, looking good! I see you decided to stain your rubbing strakes ebony that seems to be the popular option. I'm glad to see you are back in full swing again. Aaron Quote “The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.” - Augustine Current Build: Artesania Latina San Francisco II 1:90 Scale On the Shelf: Model Shipways Armed Virginia Sloop 1:48 Scale
src Posted March 16, 2013 #93 Posted March 16, 2013 Robbyn, I have used the red mahogany stain on other mahogany projects in the past, found it was hit or miss depending. Like you I found it nat at all to my liking for ship building. What are your plans for a top coat if any? Sam Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise
Shazmira Posted March 16, 2013 Author #94 Posted March 16, 2013 Very nice! Good to see you're finally back on track after... What is the count now? One redone paint job, a gunport error and a misguided attempt to amputate a finger? May Murphy leave you alone to finish your build in peace! Andy Andy, from your fingers to Murphy's ears I m hoping today and tomorrow I can actually make some new progress instead of redoing previous work. But I do have to admit, all the practice is making me better! Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
Shazmira Posted March 16, 2013 Author #95 Posted March 16, 2013 Sam, just planning on a satin clear coat of poly for the top coat. I would really like to put it on now, but I have been told if I do then I will have trouble getting everything else to stick to it well. So, I will wait and do the finish coat once everything is attached to the hull. And I believe you are right about the minwax red mahogany....it has some serious issues at least as it applies to ships Randy, I m thinking next time I might just try the tung oil. I like the idea of letting the natural wood come through, I just worry that I wont be able to get glue to stick to it at all. Russ, that thin veneer is both a blessing and a curse that is for sure. I do like how it is easier to bend and fit along the curve of the hull, but it splinters and peels so easily on the raw ends...Seems I am constantly losing little chips and bits off the end pieces. I need to find a way to prevent that from happening!!! Robert, thanks for the link to your build, I will most eagerly go look through it! Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
michael mott Posted March 16, 2013 #96 Posted March 16, 2013 Good to see you back building again Robbyn, nice work on the hull planking. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
lamarvalley Posted March 16, 2013 #97 Posted March 16, 2013 I prefer a natural finish almost all the time and a good tung oil really brings out the colors and depth of fine hardwoods like mahogany. Tung oil also absorbs into the wood rather than surface coat so as long as it doesn't contain polyurethane or some other top coat additive the wood fibers are still available for gluing. I wouldn't want to use it before major work but for stuff like cannon doors and such it should work fine. I haven't yet but I plan on testing that theory long before it becomes an issue, i.e. finish a few pieces of scrap and glue them together. We'll find out then. Quote
Salty Sea Dog Posted March 16, 2013 #98 Posted March 16, 2013 Andy, from your fingers to Murphy's ears I m hoping today and tomorrow I can actually make some new progress instead of redoing previous work. But I do have to admit, all the practice is making me better! I'd agree - the practice has made your veneer planking fantastic!! Nice job! Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there...
Shazmira Posted March 17, 2013 Author #99 Posted March 17, 2013 I am tickled pink by all the compliments....I have seen your own builds, so all I can say is thank you very much!!! Today I began my own kit bashing, I have never been very happy with the die cast cabin doors provided in the kit, so I spent the day working on fashioning my own instead. I needed something to do while I wait for glue and stain to dry First I started by cutting legths of left over basswood planking strips, 2 for each door then I glued the edges of the strips together and clamped While the glue was drying I took some 25 guage brass wire And began flattening it with a hammer I cut these flattened bits to length I plan to work on these a bit more, but I want to use them to simulate the brass hinge plates on the doors. By now my wood doors were dry so I created my own fancy little jig to hold them so I could use a #5 chisel blade and "plane" them to the proper thickness. sanded the doors and used the kit-provided doors as a template Cut and sanded to shape Stained, and am now waiting for that to dry to continue Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
mtaylor Posted March 17, 2013 #100 Posted March 17, 2013 Nice doors, Robbyn. Isn't dabbing in the "darkside" fun? Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Shazmira Posted March 17, 2013 Author #101 Posted March 17, 2013 Mark, ssshhhhhh 42 rocker will hear you, and he will be calling me again from the dark doorways of my imagination to come join him and all the rest of you there . Still don't know how these will look or work out yet, but I pretty much dreamed what I came up with so far last night, hopefully tonight I will dream up the second part! Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
russ Posted March 17, 2013 #102 Posted March 17, 2013 The doors are looking good so far. I like the idea simulating hinges. If the flattened wire does not work out, you can get very thin brass strip or sheet to make them. You can also use paper or tape painted black to simulate them. The hinges can be made from your wire. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
Shazmira Posted March 17, 2013 Author #103 Posted March 17, 2013 Thanks Russ, the thought of paper or tape had not occurred to me. I was thinking everything needed to be brass colored. but black would be acceptable too, thank you so much for that idea! Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
russ Posted March 17, 2013 #104 Posted March 17, 2013 You can paint it with a brass color if you like. See what the crafts store has in artist's acrylics. They are usually 40-50 cents for a bottle that will last forever. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
Shazmira Posted March 17, 2013 Author #105 Posted March 17, 2013 I actually went looking online at the photo etching stuff, decided that was too pricey for me, and not sure I really want to go that far. But I did find brass sheets at .005 thickness 4" x 10". 6 individually wrapped for only $15 including shipping. I think I will invest in those for the future, I think at that thickness I could cut through it easily with an exacto blade and form my own little parts. for now though, I think paper will suffice. Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
russ Posted March 17, 2013 #106 Posted March 17, 2013 Robbyn: You can cut that .005" thick sheet material with a pair of scissors. I do that all the time. That is how I make my strips for everything I need. However, I do not pay $15 a sheet. Check your local crafts store. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
Bedford Posted March 17, 2013 #107 Posted March 17, 2013 Ah, you have truly entered the ranks of the ship modeller, this is confirmed in two ways. 1 You were not happy with an aspect of the kit so you decided to make the parts yourself. 2 You are even dreaming of the solutions, good, the craft is well established in your mind. Seriously though, well done, I think the new doors will look much better. Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe!
robert1965 Posted March 17, 2013 #108 Posted March 17, 2013 Hello Robbyn I got my hinges for the doors made of wood that works well. Note the doors of the kit is too low Sorry for my language my english is not very good. Quote Robert Current builds:Prins Willem - CorelH.M.S. Victory - Deagostini Complete Project: San Fransisco II Artesania. / King of the Mississippi Artesania
Sjors Posted March 17, 2013 #109 Posted March 17, 2013 Hi Robbyn, Is that dark side a virus? You also infected with that? I'll wait for the result of the doors….. Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
src Posted March 17, 2013 #110 Posted March 17, 2013 Robbyn, Nice start on the doors. There is something very satisfying about looking at a kit part and saying "I think I can do better" And yes, it seems to be contagious and addicting, watch out. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will. Sorry, the Star Wars geek in me just came out, I'll put him away now. I would agree with Russ, $15.00 is way too much for brass sheet. If the hobby and craft stores dont have it you can try the hardware stores they frequently have a K and S rack somewhere in the hardware section. Sam Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise
Shazmira Posted March 18, 2013 Author #111 Posted March 18, 2013 $15 for 6 brass sheets 4x10...that is too much? First attempt at paper hinge plates (not sure what the proper term is). Don't like it so I am still experimenting. Did get my first rubbing strakes put on today....no pic yet as everything is taped up and drying. But at least this time I have them in the right place Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
russ Posted March 18, 2013 #112 Posted March 18, 2013 Robbyn: I thought it was for one sheet. Ooops. On the hinges, try making each one in one piece. Curve over the corners of the "arrows". For the bolts, try a very small dab of CA on the end of a toothpick and see if that works. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
Shazmira Posted March 18, 2013 Author #113 Posted March 18, 2013 Here is my second attempt at the doors.....the poly is still wet, but I think I am getting closer augie 1 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
JeffT Posted March 18, 2013 #114 Posted March 18, 2013 They look very good. Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
russ Posted March 18, 2013 #115 Posted March 18, 2013 That is quite good. The color on the plates is very nice. Good work. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
Bedford Posted March 18, 2013 #116 Posted March 18, 2013 I second the motion, looking good now. Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe!
mtaylor Posted March 18, 2013 #117 Posted March 18, 2013 Robbyn, Those doors look pretty darned good. Hinges and all. The hinges look like brass but they're paper???? Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Sjors Posted March 18, 2013 #118 Posted March 18, 2013 I have to agree with the others. Very good! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
lamarvalley Posted March 18, 2013 #119 Posted March 18, 2013 Wow! Paper?? Never would have guessed. Very nice! Randy Quote
newbuilder101 Posted March 18, 2013 #120 Posted March 18, 2013 I agree...those doors look great! Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower
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