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HMS Dragon 1760 by Siggi52 - FINISHED - Scale 1:48 - English 74-Gun ship


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Mark, I turned them just normal on my lathe. Smoothen them with needle files and after that polished them. I'm sorry, but I made no picture working them out.

 

Regards,

Siggi

Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

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Hello,

 

yes, the glasses are acrylic-, or as we say plexi glas. Here some more pictures and also some originals from the British Museum. The decanter and tablet is made from copper. 

The thick fingers are mine 

 

Regards,

Siggi

 

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Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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  • 3 weeks later...

Hello,

 

I'm not very busy at the shipyard, but more in the garden. But I told the workers to build some lanterns for the wardroom and the cabin of the captain. They had there wooden lanterns with candles. 

 

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Unfortunately they forget to build in doors, so we can't light the candles  :(

 

For those who are interested, the wire has a diameter of 0,5 mm

 

Regards,

Siggi

Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Nice work siggi, you got some nice results from your yard. Maybe a petty there are no doors in the lamps, but on the other hand, you won't get fire easily ...

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
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Very nicely done! More acrylic (plexi)?

Lighting those would be a challenge. How big are they, 1-2mm wide?

 

Slightly off topic, would lanterns like these ever have been hung from yard arms at night? I am thinking of the 17th century version of todays port and starboard lights.

Sam

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Hello Sam,

 

they did't have lights for starboard and port side in those day's. 

 

LANTHORN, a well-known machine, of which there are many used in a ship, particularly for the purpose of directing the course of other ships in a fleet or convoy: such are the poop and top-lanthorns, &c.

 

TOP-LANTHORN, (fanal de hune, Fr.) a large lanthorn placed in the after part of the top, in any ship where an admiral or commodore is personally aboard. (William Falconer's Dictionary)

 

So most ships had only the poop lanterns at the stern.

 

I hope I could help you with this. Even in the 19th century sailing ships had only two lanterns, one in the fore mast and the poop lantern. Only steamers had the red and green lanterns to make them different. Sailing ships then had the right of way. 

 

The lanterns are ≈ 3 mm wide and 6 mm high. At my wish list for next christmas is a microscope  ;)

 

Regards,

Siggi

Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Just amicroscope ... I expected some inimini tools too!!!

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Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
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Hello,

 

now it is done, the upper gun deck is ready! That was a lot of work and research and not always easy.

 

I will not write much, because of my english, but I think the pictures say all.

 

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Regards,

Siggi

Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Hello again,

 

I think I upload some pictures in a higher resolution. The captain is really spendable this evening. 

 

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At the balcony you could see the color the captain wants for his cabin! We are in a hard discussion if there should be a second color in the paneling. It's because of the extra money he has to pay.  ;)

 

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Cheers,

Siggi

 

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Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Siggi,

 

It is looking truly spectacular! Your color choices are making this very special. I do hope the captain will pay for the extra quality in his cabin...

 

Mark

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Thank you Mark,

 

I think, I have convinced the captain, the only question is wich color. I'm for a darker green, but we have some time left for this.

 

To speak about building in a small scale, yesterday I repaired the chain for a pocket watch from the 1720th. 

 

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I build a new hock and riveted it to the chain. The rivet is 0,2 mm in diameter!

 

Regards,

Siggi

 

 

Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Love your work Siggi, what I love about your work is that its impossible to tell the scale from the photos, everything looks as it you could be standing on the actual ship.

Cheers,
 
Jason


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Jason, that was the plan and it's nice to hear from others that it works. Thank you.

 

Yes Druxey, it's a verge watch with a fusee. But that was or is not the only problem with this watch. I read in one book that women made the chains 300 years before and therefor we should leave them to the women. I would't do it more often!

 

Regards,

Siggi

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Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Hello,

 

when I today looked some films from the L' Hermione, I saw that in the captains cabin where deadlights installed. Before I now lay out the planks for the quarter deck, should I build some or not? I do not know if they had such things at those times and when which version?

 

For the first version, from Goodwin's book, I have nothing extra to do. I could say they are just hidden  ;)

 

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But if the more simple version from the Hermione and from this picture is the right one, I must get active.  :(

 

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Is there anyone who could help me with this question? I don't know if they had cannon ports here in the 1760's, or if that is from the 19th century. Then I think the second version would be the right one. But I'm not sure.

 

Many thanks in advance,

Siggi

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Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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I would think that deadlights that swing up would be more likely. The more elaborate hidden sliding versions would be for Admiral's quarters on a first rate!

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Thank you Robin for this,

 

I will try first the fold up version. If my fingers are too thick for installing the deadlights, I will follow your version and do nothing. 

 

Have a nice day,

Siggi

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Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Hello,

 

it is done, the deadlights are installed. It was really tricky to glue them in. Mostly is that the moment when something bad happens. But all went well this time.

I painted the paneling only, because I thought that a build paneling would lessen the strange of the wood.

 

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Regards,

Siggi

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Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Siggi,

 

the deadlights are a great touch. It is interesting to speculate on their use. They would not have slowed down a cannonball, and they would not be needed to shut out light that would disturb the captain's sleep. So would they have been used to protect the cabin in severe storms?

 

Mark

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Hello Mark and Robin,

 

in any Western you could see that every small board is bullet proof, so I think that they also should be a protection from small gun fire. What I in a case of a storm not understand is, the windows are outside of the "deadlights" (now I got it). 

 

Robin, the captain wanted Windsor Chairs! Grrrr 

 

regards,

Siggi

Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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That an impressive bit of shipmodeling detail that seems to be overlooked by most of us, Siggi.   I like it.

Mark
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Hello,

 

the planks for the  the quarter deck are laid. Now is also the upper gun deck dark and only in the ward room is some light. 

 

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Here I'm sunning the fresh oiled deck and showed the ship the great ocean.

 

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The layout for the first bulwark is also ready and installed. For the next days I have to cut the beams for the poop deck.

 

Regards,

Siggi

Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Hello,

 

the workers have been very busy the last days. It's cold and rainy here, so they stay at the shipyard. 

All the beams for the poop deck are cut and installed. Also the walls, except for the great cabin, are ready. 

 

But the next problem occurs and again with the cannons. But about that later. Today I hope the captain will spend some drinks, because of the topping-out ceremony!  :)

 

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Regards,

Siggi

 

 

Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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