ancre Le Colibri 1808 by Fam - scale 1:48 - POB French brick de 24

[albert]

Wonderful.

[Fam]

Thank you all for the nice comments and likes!

You know Dirk, these are all 2D pieces ... I'm really worried worried about 3D figures, to be carved all around like the Figurehead.

My real problem is visualization of the shapes, I'm a technician not an artist: my artistic soul is always very poor ;-)

But I will keep trying and practicing ... so will see what happens when the time of the Colibri bird will come

Ciao

Fam

[cog]

Looking marvelous, Fam .. that's some great looking carving ... very, very good!!!

 

Cheers

Edited March 16, 2016 by cog

[mtaylor]

Great carving work, Fam.  I'm seeing this as instruction and inspiration for my ship.

[druxey]

Very nice carved work, Fam. For a fully round figure, try modelling a maquette in clay (or Fimo) first. This will help you visualize things from any angle.

[Fam]

Thank you again, I appreciate!

 

@ mtaylor: I can barely believe at your statement, I think it's just the opposite   as last week I've downloaded your instructions to build the rudder from here ... http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/5339-licorne-by-mtaylor-pof-316-french-frigate-hahn-version-20/page-83#entry394269

 

@ druxey: This is just the conclusion I arrived yesterday evening while writing my answer to Dirk :D

 

Fam

[jack.aubrey]

Wonderful job, FAM.

Really fantastic!!!

Jack.

[mtaylor]

The joy of MSW, Fam.  We learn from each other.  I'm appreciative of your comment.

[Fam]

March 22^nd, 2016

 

Hi all,

just a very quick update about the 24prd carronades: the masters for casting in pewter are finally ready.

 

 

The design is exactly taken from the Ancre plans, giving the first master (below in the picture).

 

Then my good friend JA asked me to have something slightly different, because his HMS Guadeloupe will be shown after recommissioning with the British Royal Navy. So, using as examples a couple of drawings he sent me, I've got a second master modified in several details to represent a carronade more in the British fashion.

The total size and general layout are about the same, but diameter is larger, there are additional and more evident reinforcement rings, the support is shorter, the rear part is different (where the elevation screw is located), and something more.

 

Not all the final details have been included, to avoid problems with the casting technique whose limits I don't know.

 

The 6 small wooden parts will be the supports joining the barrel to the sledge, hoping they will resist the polymerization temperature of the mold silicon resin .

 

Stay tuned...

Cheers

Fam

 

[cog]

Beautiful job on those masters Fam. Love to see the result ... I'll keep my fingers crossed for you

 

Cheers

[archjofo]

Hi Fam,
for pipe support of the French Corvette carronades I made a left and a right model of brass. Then I let them manufacture of cast brass.
In my German Buildingreport LINK you can see the corresponding images.

Maybe this helps you.

Edited March 25, 2016 by archjofo

[Fam]

Hi Fam,

for pipe support of the French Corvette carronades I made a left and a right model of brass. Then I let them manufacture of cast brass.

In my German Buildingreport LINK you can see the corresponding images.

Maybe this helps you.

Yes Johannes, I did the same: 3 couples (LH+RH side) of supports, one for the French carronade, the other for the British carronade and the third as a spare.

I hope I'll manage to get all the parts (two barrels plus 3 supports couples) casted in one shot, to be repeated 15 times.

Unfortunately yet didn't get any contact with the artisan who will manufacture the casting, probably because of Easter holiday period.

I will try again next week at the end of the short holiday

 

Happy Easter to everybody

Fam

[Fam]

For those who don't have access to the German forum where Johann is posting his work, I show here three steps describing what I'm trying to obtain (Johann if this is disturbing just let me know and I'll remove the images immediately):

 

- cast support parts for carronade barrel

 

- unassembled parts

 

- the completed carronade

 

All his pieces are brass, either lathed or cast. I was not so lucky, so all my parts will be cast in pewter. The final finish will be in gun-metal paint, polished with some lead pencil dust to improve the metallic look. The 9pdr long gun pictures I posted some time ago show what I mean.

 

I'd like to highlight that the design of my barrels seem to be exactly the same of Johann's, but I only referred to Ancre plans: probably the weapon was the same type for both ships, regardless of the different years of building.

Also note how the lower part of the carriage has no wheels, and carronade training is done by rotating the upper sledge ... this seems to be a little bit weird, but I don't have the knowledge to contest this layout.

 

Cheers

Fam

Edited March 27, 2016 by Fam

[archjofo]

Hi Fam,

I am glad that you show my pictures in your report.
That's perfectly fine.
If you need further information in the form of plans or images,
please contact me.

[aykutansin]

So Good Working

[Fam]

Hi Fam,

 

I am glad that you show my pictures in your report.

That's perfectly fine.

If you need further information in the form of plans or images,

please contact me.

Thank you so much Johann, I really appreciate!

You already know, you are my reference for learning so many how-to-do items and I consider you my teacher

I just watched at your videos on youtube... they are astonishing! A liked a lot the choice for the side music...it is the original from which the violin-cello duet between Jack Aubrey and Stephen Maturin is derived, isn't it? The last shots of 'Master and Commander'..one of my preferred movies

Fam

Edited March 28, 2016 by Fam

[archjofo]

...it is the original from which the violin-cello duet between Jack Aubrey and Stephen Maturin is derived, isn't it? The last shots of 'Master and Commander'..one of my preferred movies

Fam

Hello Fam,

 

it is!

With this music I associate the feeling of this epoch.

 

"Master and commander" is also my favorite.

 

 

[Fam]

April 8^th, 2016

 

Hi all

another quick update about the head-timber works.

The third couple of timbers is installed and the lower rail is being test-fitted in the next picture. Note that I had to complete the finish of the three head-timbers in their outer face, for the portion between the upper cheek and the rail, because the latter will obstruct the accessibility to this area for finishing. Therefore I glued a narrow strip of paper, blackened with a felt pen, inside the scraped molding and then re-touched with black acrylic paint to match the bow finish.

 

 

Here, in the two following shots, the two lower rails are completed and definitely installed. They are monolithic, i.e. built in a single piece, because their size and curvature are smaller and I thought they could be obtained from a single piece of wood.

Matching the rail with the three existing head-timbers, with the bow (between the hawse holes) and with the main rail was another “pleasant” task

 

 

And finally the fourth head-timber is completed and installed: it sits on top of the lower rail (where it touches the bow surface) and is connected to the main rail. All timbers are finished with the black strip on their outer face.

 

 

Forward platform

After completing the lower part of the ship’s head, I have switched to its upper side ... what I call “bowsprit deck” or “forward platform” (pretty sure the name is another, but I don’t know the correct English term).

 

Several cross timbers are laid in athwart direction connecting the two main head-rails. They are longitudinally positioned close to the head-timbers above described, but not precisely overlaid: there is a small shift forward and aft of the two forward-most timbers, to leave space for the bowsprit gammoning.

The timbers are intended to support a series of fore-and-aft smaller timbers (or “ledges”?), thus creating a sort of grating, or something that reproduces the carlings-ledges structure of the decks but with the scope of a grating.

 

Connection among the “ledges” parts and the athwart supports should be done with a series of recesses (notches) 1mm wide and 0.9mm spaced apart to each other, like visible on the wedge piece at the head-of-the-knee that I’ve already fixed.

The more proper way of doing this job is probably drawing reference longitudinal lines across the athwart beams and then cutting the teeth, with a sharp chisel or cutter, on their fore and aft upper edges. I thought that this method leaves large space for alignment imprecisions, any error in cutting the recesses would reflect in a deviation of the ledges from the F&A direction and from their parallelism. So decided for simulating this method by using instead the  method shown here on MSW by Alexandru (Guraus’s buildlog of HMS Victory).

 

I built a step on the fore and aft upper edges of the athwart beams by overlaying two pieces: the lower is 3mm wide by 2mm thick, the upper batten is 2mm wide by 1mm thick: the resulting beam is a 3x3mm timber with two continuous 0.5x1mm steps along the upper edges, which will house the ledges timbers. In this way I will be able to take care of their correct alignment and spacing to each other.

 

The following picture shows the first two cross-beams installed: the steps are visible on the fore edges. Choice of material for the entire forward platform is a lighter shade of Pearwood (Swiss pearwood from CrownTimberyard company, great stuff!!), contrasting with the darker shade of the lower structures.

Once again, I couldn’t be happier of my decision to buy a disk sander (Proxxon TSG250/E in my case): once the proper angles needed to match the rails with the beams are found, with some trials, then obtaining the correct fitting for all the cross-beam timbers with the disk-sander is easy and fast, just a matter of few seconds! No need to say I strongly recommend this tool.

 

 

Here below the third, and last, cross-beam is positioned: it is longitudinally positioned so that it interferes with the stem, that seemed a bit weird to me. But after checking and measuring on the plans and verifying on the model, and then double-checking and measuring again, I got to the conclusion that its position is correct … or better it is compliant with the plans (supposing they are correct).

The problem with this position is that the beam, apart from crossing the stem, is not able to support the longitudinal grating. So I added another small piece just forward of the stem and connecting the two parts of the beam: probably not the correct solution, but I could not imagine another way out from this impasse. The building method for this cross-beam was the same, simply divided in two parts.

 

 

The first 5 longitudinal parts of the gratings (ledges) are also installed, to demonstrate the concept. They seem to be slightly not parallel, but it is just an impression from the picture: I ensure they are parallel!

And here again the forward platform at a later stage, with more ledges installed and two of the knees connecting the beams to the rails installed:

 

 

The knees are notched to match the beam step, then I will cut the recesses for the ledges in the after edge of each knee.

 

Finally a shot from the opposite side of the ship: the stern transom is finished in matt black and the moldings and decorations pop-out much more evident. I like very much the way light reflects on the Pearwood leaf decorations, giving them different shades of color that are only due to different orientation of the leaves.

Painting of the counter down to the second molding is not yet complete.

 

 

That’s all for today.

Best regards

Fam

 

 

[cog]

Fam ...

 

I just dislocated my jaw ... that is some major impressive work you've done!!! Very crisp and sharp details ...beautiful ...

 

Cheers

[rafine]

Absolutely beautiful work on the head, Fam.

 

Bob

[mtaylor]

Wonderful work on the head, Fam.   And that stern is a beauty.

[albert]

Hi Fam, very nice work, bravo.

[Fam]

Thank you all for the kind words and the likes, I appreciate!

A

[Fam]

April 29^th, 2016

 

No words ... just emotions to share

 

 

Fam

[cog]

Mavelous ...

[Fam]

Thank you Dirk!

I'm missin but still progressing at a low pace

[jack.aubrey]

Are you still here ?

Rgds, Jack.

[Fam]

Hi all, and ciao Sergio my friend!

Yes I'm still alive, but unfortunately I had to stop the works on my Brig being too busy with another family project...

I hope I will manage to resume my shipyard in short time, I'm missing it so much...

In the meanwhile I send all the members my best wishes for a happy and prosperous New Year

Cheers

Fam

[aviaamator]

Thank you, Fam! Mutually!

[jack.aubrey]

After 2.5 years from your last sign of life,

are you still on this project ?

What about your current and future plans ?

Sincerely, Jack.