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4 hours ago, Wintergreen said:
I have to disagree about the "mess on the deck" 😉
Hakan - I think good practice isn't always achieved - i was thinking of this shot of Germania when I made the comment. I hope you are keeping ok?
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6 hours ago, shipmodel said:
belaying pins or were they always on deck?
Bit of both Dan, also they are often just dumped in a jumbled mess on the deck. There are so many and given the mast height they are so bulky that hanging all of them from the belaying pins would probably be impractical. At the scale I am modelling it becomes virtually impossible.
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Enough of this speculative chat about the future and back to the job in hand - But thank you all for your contributions.
Time to tidy up some of those loose ends.
Those of you with long memories will remember that many many months ago I made the pin rails for the foot of the masts. With the blocks installed around the masts the pin rails could be glued in place. As you might imagine tying off the halyards was a bit of a pain ( I marvel at the patience of all you fully rigged ship builders).
The fore mast starboard side.
I then coiled the tails.
Fore mast port side.
Main mast starboard side.
Main mast port side.
Fore mast port looking forward.
You may also remember that I only completed the fore and aft standing rigging to ease access for the sail and halyard installation. Now it is time to move on to the abeam standing rigging. But first I needed a few more shackles to attach the turnbuckles.
Luckily my storage system for long ago made parts is working well. You may remember the turnbuckles.
The 16 turnbuckles were then attached to the rails with the afore mentioned shackles.
I think I need a break from rigging.
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6 minutes ago, FlyingFish said:
Now you're talkin'! Looks aren't everything, as I frequently tell my bathroom mirror.
My wife has banned mirrors.
1 hour ago, Keith Black said:could model the engines, boilers, and engine room components as a separate display
We could start a list of pros and cons for each option. - Cangarda is the patriotic choice for a Michigan resident.😀
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9 hours ago, Keith Black said:
Ena's beautifully executed deck features and lounge look a lot like that of the Germania, IMHO.
4 hours ago, Bedford said:I'm biased but I don't reckon you can beat Ena.
Yes I agree that Ena is the more beautiful yacht and the deck embellishments are far superior. The thing that is drawing me towards Cangarda is this:-
I think it would be fun to include details of the engine room with the skylights open to allow viewing. Ena's engine room is below the main cabin and therefore not visible. However I have a couple of months before i decide finally.
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17 minutes ago, Bob Cleek said:
A buddy of mine attended to her relaunching and very nearly "dumped" her in that exercise.
Hi Bob, yes i had seen that video - quite alarming really. I'm not really too sure why it happened.
Yes I was going to email Rutherford's boatyard to see if they could help with the hull lines. I found some fairly reasonable plans on the internet, unfortunately the only real omission was the hull lines.
1 hour ago, Wintergreen said:Well, if you opt for another sail yacht, how about Lulworth?
Hakan, Yes she meets my "elegance" criteria. I'll add her to my search list.
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2 hours ago, Keith Black said:
Here's a pretty neat candidate.
Keith - yes I have looked at Ena but I am also looking at this:-https://www.sandemanyachtcompany.co.uk/yacht/618/pusey-and-jones-126-ft-steam-yacht-19012009. As yet i haven't found the hull lines anywhere.
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2 hours ago, Veszett Roka said:
Unfortunately not too many, will share them if you're interested.
Veszett, Thank you, if they are off the internet I think I can find them. I see the building of a modern replica is being considered -
https://www.superyachtnews.com/owner/britannia-replica-to-rule-the-waves-again. In my case it might be worth waiting and building a model of the replica which should have a more comprehensive photographic record.
4 hours ago, Wintergreen said:About your GN, and schooners in general, such beautiful boats!
Hakan - yes, i love the boats built in the early part of the 20th century. For me they epitomise elegance and beauty. I am thinking about building a display model of a steam yacht if I can find a subject with enough detail.
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2 hours ago, Veszett Roka said:
My future project
Veszett, Yes I looked at her some time ago the plus is that the plans can be bought, the minus is that there are not many decent photos of the deck detail. Have you found any?
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Looks lovely Nils - where is it going to be displayed?
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21 hours ago, Wintergreen said:
the lady needs to loose some pounds from her rear end
Hakan - Beautiful work on her rear end. I hope you didn't get too excited.
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4 hours ago, Valeriy V said:
In the manufacture of crosses, I took the simplest path - I ordered photo-etching.
Sometimes taking the easiest approach is the best strategy. The guns were amazing.
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3 hours ago, Zbip57 said:
This video really gets my blood flowing. So many beautiful boats.
They are all magnificent, unfortunately I don't think I have enough time left (or display space) to build many more of them. I think I misused my youth on work, i should have been born rich. I note Germania makes a few appearances in the video.
I am currently wondering what to build next. My hope is to finish Germania before Christmas so I am looking round for another project.
Thank you for the compliments.
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On 10/16/2022 at 2:09 AM, Bob Cleek said:
Stanley makes one many have praised
I must be missing something because I have never used a keel clamp. I just tend to knock up a support cradle from scrap wood and have never felt the need for anything better. As far as the Stanley vice is concerned I have one and wouldn’t recommend it for anything but the very smallest boats - nothing more than a few inches long.
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2 hours ago, KeithAug said:
I don't think you have spotted the unusual way the between mast stays are rigged
However if I look long enough i will find the answer!
There are a pair of stays and they are obviously "running" stays that can be slackened on either side depending on which tack the boat is on. i hope the crew remember to tighten the stays or they may loose the fore top mast. it seems a bit of a worrying arrangement to me.
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3 hours ago, Zbip57 said:
The small triangular fishermans sail is almost self-tacking as it can pass freely between stays #1 and #2.
They have even managed to make tacking the fishermans complicated on Germania. I don't think you have spotted the unusual way the between mast stays are rigged. It is like the final video you posted in 2073.
Now why would they do that?
I have added insta360 to my Farther Christmas wish list. It is brilliant.
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7 hours ago, Zbip57 said:
The stunning jackyard topsail is only good if it can remain set on one tack for a long time, because I suspect it needs to be lowered right down to the deck each time in order to re-hoist it on the opposite tack.
Thank you for your two interesting and informative contributions, i learned a lot and i am sure they will be of interest to quite a few visitors to my build. The camera work in the second video is fascinating. I assume a drone was employed with some sort of fancy lens. Were you the operator? The video also reminded me that I haven't hd chilli for a while and I love chilli.
5 hours ago, Bedford said:nterestingly, in the book Hand, Reef and Steer by Tom Cunliffe he states that the jackyard topsail should be raised on the port side only. Although it will not be as efficient on the port tack it still works
Steve - I have a lot of photos of Germania that supports your point. The coloured photos are of Germainia Nova while the black and white is the original.
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On 8/24/2022 at 8:38 AM, Decoyman said:
Or at least an extension before and after the fence to support longer, more flexible pieces.
I am sure I have seen someone post a picture of a Byrnes saw set into a work bench with the top flush with the bench surface. If I had the space I would do this to overcome the limitations of the relatively small table.
p.s. Does everyone keep the blade guard on? I found it was constantly in the way and removed it a long time ago ( I take a lot of care - famous last words!).
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15 hours ago, Andrew J. said:
At one point they're sailing on the Pacific on a similar vessel, called the Tweedle Dee in the movie (Spike Africa in real life). There's this one shot at sunset with a lovely sweeping string motif that has always really struck me.
Andrew, I haven't seen the film but I will look out for it on Netflix or similar. I agree there is something special about a schooner under full sail.
12 hours ago, Dr PR said:That Jackyard topsail is huge! I read in John Leather's Gaff Rig Handbook that the jackyard evolved as a means of getting around some type rules for racing. It allowed the area of the spar gaff topsail to be expanded greatly without violating the rules as written. He said some jackyard topsails had greater area than the main sail! You would have to be quick handling those things if a sudden squall blew up.
Phil, I agree that a squall would be worrying. They seem to sail Germania most of the time with a much smaller sail (Photo) so I guess they are worried too.
I don't like Germania as much with this rig. She seems a little "squat" to me.
1 hour ago, TBlack said:I hope you have plans to publicly display this fabulous work of art/science. A broad audience really needs to see your work.
Sadly not Tom - we don't get a lot of visitors beyond family and close friends. The most important and valued audience is of course my friends at MSW.
Thank you Keith, Brian, Steve, Pat, Andrew, Phil, Eberhard, Valeriy and Tom, your interest and kind remarks are as ever much appreciated. Also thanks to everyone who have visited and or liked my work.
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Atlantica by Wintergreen – Scale 1:30 - POF - sail training ketch - a smack of English heritage
in - Build logs for subjects built 1901 - Present Day
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Lovely work.