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9 hours ago, James H said:

 

The kit is entirely developed and they have a manual, but they want the manual re-made into their current style. That means them sending me the parts and at least building and completing the hull, and me sending them the corrected/annotated photos and the text to go with it. They also want me to double-check specifics on the build too.

 

I don't think you're far off the mark with a couple of years, but at least it's now happening whereas a couple of months ago, there was a distinct possibility you wouldn't have seen this for much longer....if at all. 

 

There is an upside to two years though.....time to get some cash set aside for it!

cash isn't the problem. father time waits for no man!

On 7/16/2019 at 9:04 PM, James H said:

The current position is that I need to build Amati another Victory for their new style of instruction manual. I'll have the parts around Sept/Oct. From there, I'll do a build log (of sorts) here and as soon as complete (minus masts as those are done via drawings), Amati will compile their photo manual from what I send them (pics and text).

 

They'll need to get their PE and laser cutting made, plus boxes, fittings, plans etc. Then you'll see a release. I presume that they will be ordering in their materials in the latter stages of the build, once they know no changes need to be made.

 

 

 

NOTE: Renamed the topic title to reflect the discussion on the Amati kit.

James, forgive me if I am interpreting this wrongly, but does it mean that until you build the Amati version of the 1:64 kit, and they (Amati), then develop the PE. masts etc. we will not see this released? This could take a considerable amount of time, depending on how fast you build of course. Would I be not far off the mark to suggest a couple of years at least?

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Chris

That coppering sure looks tedious David, but the end result is well worth the time and effort I reckon. Great job as usual.

Chris

Any more news yet?

21 minutes ago, Landlubber Mike said:

Looks really awesome!  A 63" finished kit though would have my wife making me live in the garage though.

Hmmm??? Wife/Victory, wife/Victory, wife/Victory..... Do you have cable and a fridge in the garage?

Well waiting! But we all have a finite time on earth here! lol

Cheers

Chris

4 minutes ago, James H said:

....hold in there!!!

Doing my best James! Just wish I could actually see the real thing in Portsmouth. What a piece of living history you guys have over there. Please keep us informed on any updates re: the Amati version of Chris's build. Thank You.

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Chris

WOW! Thanks Chris. I can only hope this model will be released soon before I pull the trigger and buy the Caldercraft version. It is simply stunning and a great credit to you.

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Chris

Hey Chris, are you able to post more pictures of your Amati Victory in various stages? Totally understand if for moral/legal reasons you cant, but if you don't ask, you don't get.

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Chris

Hi Chris, did you design the Caldercraft 1:72 Victory? If so, how does it compare in accuracy/detail to your much anticipated Amati 1:64 version?

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Chris

You're just teasing now! lol

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Chris

Looking at splitting the kit to make it more cost effective over a period of time for modellers. Good idea I reckon. Will let  Emilio  from Amati explain more. He said he will make a post here to explain further.

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Chris

5 hours ago, chris watton said:

Don't quote me, but I think there may be some real movement regarding Amati releasing the 64th scale Victory. I would be so happy to see this released - I no longer work there, but this was two years work for me, and would be fantastic to see it available to buy.

Just received an email from Amati regarding your Victory. Seems we may all have good reason to start getting excited!

Cheers

Chris

I will definitely contact them. Given you designed her, drew the scale plans etc. do you still retain any ownership to the model? Could you not sell her as part of your current venture? As for cost; Amati are kidding themselves if they think junkies like us wont spend the big bucks on things of rare quality and beauty such as this! Sure, its not a kit that will fly out the door in the hundreds, but I bet more than a few on here alone would buy it.

Any chance you could maybe post a few more pics of your design in stages/completion? Fully understand if for copyright reasons etc. you cannot. Thanks for your work.

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Chris

Wow! Thank you for these pics Chris. Any idea if/when a release date? Price etc? How come if you completed the proto type 4 years ago she still isn't released? What would be the overall dimensions of such a beast? Sorry for all the questions. Stunning work! I want one!

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Chris

8 minutes ago, James H said:

The ultimate Victory kit is the 1:64 unreleased Amati kit, designed by Chris Watton. 

 

That thing is epic, and I'm trying to convince Amati to get off the fence and actually release it!

 

I'm sure @chris watton could give you more info...

Any pics, other info etc?

Hi all, I was just wondering, is Caldrcraft (1:72 version) the go to kit for Victory freaks? Is it the most detailed/accurate on the market? Indeed, is it the largest? Anyone know of any others to rival Caldercraft's version or any planned by other manufacturers in the pipeline?

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Chris

Using water and heat will achieve the same results 100 times quicker. Amati has a great soldering iron plank bender. I use that for all my bending needs. I am sure others will have their favourite methods as well, but it really comes down to soaking the wood to make it pliable, then heating it to achieve the desired shape. Once the wood is then cooled it will hold the shape.

Chris

Hey Dave, I find I use a small modelling hammer all the time, depending on your eyesight, some magnifying tools may be useful too. Pin vises are always necessary, and you can NEVER have enough clamps of any size!

In my opinion, some of the fancy rigging/ratline tools/frames are a waste of money. A good selection of small chisels come in handy, and if I had any money left over I would probably stock up on sandpaper of various grades and different types of tape for masking and holding.

And what CDW said; definitely invest in a good plank bender!

Cheers

Chris

Many thanks Mark! Didn't know the owner was on here.

Chris

Hello Jack, I am so glad I found your build log. This is a superb job you are doing. I love the Carracks! Your skill is unbelievable. Congratulations to you and your many feline assistants. If I may ask a few questions; is this model originally supposed to be double planked on the hull? Where on earth did you find your 0.4mm cherry strips? On the Maristella site it lists this model as for sale both upgraded kit and retro. Do you know what the difference is there?

Thank you very much, I will follow along with great interest and admiration for your work.

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Chris

Thanks Steven for all this wonderful info. I have just ordered the Mantua Nina 1:50 with extra pre stitched sails from CMB. I am a total Columbus freak, and have been since childhood. I have built the Amati Santa Maria 1:50??? but plan on building all 3 of the Mantua vessels. It doesn't appear as though any build logs for the Nina are on here, or anywhere I can find, so I may be the log Guinea Pig for this one!

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Chris

Hi, I am fully aware that there is no historically accurate information on the 3 specific vessels Columbus used, however having viewed this publication in limited PDF format I think it might be useful as a guide to the particular type of vessel.

Chris

Hi, anyone read, got a copy, recommend or otherwise of this book?

ISBN 978-1844860142

AUTHOR: Xavier Pastor

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Chris

This is simply stunning work you are doing here Eric! As a community here, we are very fortunate to have people like yourself who possess not only the skill to produce such works, but also the knowledge behind the vessels they create. Congratulations!

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Chris