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Masts are there, you're almost done Jan
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That's strange.pretty sure that beefwellington had the correct answer yesterday....... Where has he gone? I can repeat his answer, but that's just plain piracy Jan
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We had a thread on this firm at "MSW1" in which some said that this firm (and some other firm, using almost the same name which I now forgot) was selling plans of which they did not have the copyrights, had a somewhat sloppy service, and was to be avoided.... They have a phone-numer on their site, you could give it a try.... Jan
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Can you use decals on cloth? I've also seen thin metal foil as a base for flags. The miniature-scale guys use it: no problems with any fabric structure that is too coarse. Jan
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Chatham, Portsmouth? HMS something.... Jan
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It's fun, those little ropes. Although quite time-consuming. I'm not going very fast, as I try to be a little bit more historically accurate than the Corel-drawings. i.e more variety in block-size, rope-thickness, and a slightly more 'dutch' rigging practice. Therfore, progress is slow, and as I have large interuptions in my work, startup-time is long, the next time I start (first problem is always: how did I do that last month....) Jan
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My summer didn't go completely unspent... (sorry for the quality of the pics, they were taken wth a not so goog cmera...) All running riggin gof the bowsprit is more or less present. I 'only'' have ot belay the loose ends. One of the problesm at this scale is taht the rope is quite springy, and the yards not heavy enough to prevent teh rope going everywhere. I also redid the crowsfeet at the foremast, the rather whitish rope started to anoy me. Actually, I still think the crowsfeet should go altogether. It does look a bit out of place and period for this ship.... Jan
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Great! Dafi will have to speed up........ Jan
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Batavia by *Hans* - FINISHED
amateur replied to *Hans*'s topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Idon't see that many limitations:) Jan -
With not histrically correcti meant: giving a pictureofatypicaldutch fluyt. Inthe dutch fluyts the 'bulge' at high stern is even more pronounced Idon't know were Hoeckel found his resources for Derfllinger., and therefore can' comment on the accuracy of this specific reconstruction. As you said: something can be accurate or not. We will in many cases (duyfken is one, but there are more examples) give a picture of how it could have been, without ever knowing how far we are off..... Jan
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Bit late in replying to apost of sept thrid... Actually, duyfken is known as. Yacht, by all naming stamdards, while derf.inger is supposed to be a fluyt (i have to say, a very poor example of it, based on a reconstruction fromthe early thirties by rolf hoeckel) duyfken is early 1600' whilde derflinger is suposed to be around 1700 ( i guess) Derflinger as shown by eruomodel is not a fluyt by dutch standards, as the typical shape of the "back end" is not correct. It is also not a retourship, as again, the back end is not likea retourship.... Its kind of inbetween. (-although a nice model, it is not historically accurate) Having said that: painting the hull white was habit in the mid 1600. A mixture of chalk, tar, sulfur, lead and some other toxic ingredients wre smeared below the waterline to prevent. Although thereare indications that especially in the baltic erea this was not done, as rot wasnt a problem over there. The klinker plankint of the upper hull was standard, and in practice over long periods of time. It started off quite early, as the upper part of the hull had no structural function, and was build using thinnerplanks. To give some strength, klinkering was used. Jan
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I'm with Mark Jan
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Your models are a joy to look at! Thanks very much for sharing Jan
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In some cases the english just reused valuable timber of an old ship. Pretty sure that this factory/warehouse/mill has some heavy timbers that had a previous life as deckbeams of HMS whatshername. Problem is: which one. And I don't want (at least, not yet) try google pic Jan
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Or is it the jolly sailor inn, with parts of an other hms?
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Was that hms something, taken apart and hidden below thefloorboards in case the French would come:) Jan
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Lost in translation....... I checked my literature. It's called a knight. The rope from the yard is lead over the mastcap, down along the mast, through a hallaird-block, up again over the mastcap to the yard. The rope trough the knight and the halliardblock is names halliard (surprise, surprise....) The method of hoisting a yard using jeers and jeer blocks is english, and much, much later tahn halve maen. Jan
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Try knighthead... In both languages it is named after the type of head which was carved on top. In england they used to carve figure with an helmet, in the netherlands they used a type of servant (knecht) Jan
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Which leaves the other two. Both are last in a certain sense. So my first guess: Kamikaze, the last one sailing of the class, she ran aground in 1946. Jan
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Google for barentz harlingen. They are dong a replica of a1600 ship overthere. Jan
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Thereshould bea knechtbehind every mast. It was needed to hoist the yards. I would follow your drawings with respect to the beting (or actually absenceof it) You could make a less heavy build pinrack. These ships had only one heavy beting: just behindthe fore mast, on the lower deck. This was used to belay the anchor ropes. Jan
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Both in dutch: 1 knecht, used to hoist the main yard. Positioned about were your little hatch behind the main mast is..... 2 beting, and i very much doubt whether that thing was there on this ship. Belaying lines this was was quite unusual on early dutch ships. Lines were either belsyed on a knecht, on on clamps on the mast, or on the inside of the railing. Jan
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I hAd a dremel, but itwas too heavy, too large and too powerfull imo. I use a minicraft now. Jan
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