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Yes, that's the one Thanks for posting. That will be something different compared to the 'usual' kits. How and where do you get your information with regard to dimenions, construction and materials? Jan
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American four masted schooner, around the turn of the centure (at least, going by the looks of the tug that's next to her) Jan
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Nice repair. Not many people will notice. With respect to the Batavia-gun: yes the guncarriage is rather high. It is a solution to a problem the Dutch (and probably some others too) created. In early shipbuilding decks followed the sheer of the whales, (leading to gunports all around the same distance above the deck, but quite sloping decks) Then they startted to reduce the slope of the deck, but they didn't dare to cut the gunports thtough the main wales, resulting i an uneven distance of the gunports to the deck. Finally, they started to cut through the wales, leading to rather flat decks, and a more or less equal distance between gunport sills and the deck. The reconstruction of Batavia is build with almost flat decks, and a very heavy sheer of the wales. (perhaps even overdoing both too much, who knows) Therefore, the guns towards the aft part of the ship (which you are looking at here) need relatively high carriages. Jan
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I'm pretty sure you can show us some of the Roman ship (at least, I think I saw something between a Victory and a car that looks pretty much like a prototype Roman ship ) Jan
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This one is easier for certain. You should remove the name/registration number out of the pics you post Jan
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That, or the guns are put in place as you go: each deck is fully equipped with gun and the lot before the next deck is going in. Or, somewhere in between: the guncariages are plced, and the guns are glued in afterqwards, like in the Victory prototype build by Chris watton; Jan
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Willem Barentsz by ceestoorn - FINISHED
amateur replied to ceestoorn's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Lookgin good. Question: fore and aft, you have to grind your frames at quite an angle. Are they thick enough to allow for that angle? Jan -
USS Alloway?
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Ah, Dave, we already now the name of the next one Jan
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Looks a bit like the Dutch patrolvessels in the east indies (almost no sheer, sun-tent on the aft deck) Jan
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They were already very good, but the black made them definitely better!! Jan
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I don't see anything boring. I see a good-lookind deck Jan
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Masts and rigging both standing and running
amateur replied to rafterrat_2005's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
There are various books showing what you need: the antomy of the ship-series, or Rigging period ships (Peterson) are nice examples. The advantage of these books is that they show the rigging part by part, instead of just showing the final result. MAkes it easier to understand... Jan -
Going back on your traces ?! I like the margingplank! Working from the centreline outward is indeed the better idea,: as the planks aren't never absolutely straight, it is difficult to keep them perfectly paralellel to the ships centreline. Working from the centerline makes that the problem is on the sides, and not in the middle of the deck (were it is most easy to see...) Jan
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Hi Drazen, On a Dutch forum, Ab told us once that the danger of the drawings of Otte Blom is that he is giving such wonderful detail, that you tend to forget that there are many things we actually don't know for sure.... Jan
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Other rules, or perhaps: no rules..... (which somtetimes boils down to 'anything goes' as long as it is practical and technically sound....) Jan
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Hi Mark, And still...on the existing models and illustrations of Dutch ships of war, there are no coamings on the gundecks. Jan
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Her end, after a century of service, was fire: she was burned on the mudflats, in order to retrieve all the metal in her hull. Jan
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Actually, IMO that does make it not less saddening. Jan
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You can always claim there is gun on board, no one will lift the cover Jan
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Different from Winter, but still, also in Wasa, there is this raised plank fixed on top of the deck beam between the gratings. Jan
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Another remark with respect to Dik: Dik did his research in the late seventies (he published his material from 1983 onwards). His main objective was a model that looked authentic. He used the Zweidecker as one of his main reference points. So concluding that Dik and Winter do give the same information is kind of circular reasoning.... Otte Blom was slightly more critical with respect to his sources, although he tends to draw too much detail in his drawings. (Some people say that he is suggesting too much certainty.) In the end, his main body of reference is the same as that of Dik and other amateur-researchers: Winter and the drawings of Van der Velde) I know that Ab doesn't beleive in this raised part between the 'schaarstookken, and therefore has no need to have an additional opart of wood fixed on top of the deck beams. Dik based his drawing clearly on pic 17 in Winter: there is the same construction shown: the schaarstooken are slightly raised ovr the deck beams, and in between the beams are raised to the level of the schaarstokken, in order to accomodate the gratings. I don't know what the real ship should look (after all the ship in Winter is only a model) Does Wasa give any info? Jan
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Hello Titanic, Feel free to join the game! But..you are only allowed to put up a new ship if you have correctly named the previous one, and the poster of that ship has acknowledged you were right. In this case Kevin can post a new picture. (and (hint:) ): we can see the name of the pics posted, so when you post a picture named olympic, we don't even need your hint with respect to the name of the ship ) Jan
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Sounds as if you don't like this OOB-version of a gun.... Jan
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For a moment I was thinking 'would there be any chance of a gunboat named Arklow...." Jan
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