Chuck

Relly coming along nicely Ben. I like the wood choices a lot. I didnt think I would. But after seeing them it looks lovely. Chuck

Really great Start. Its good to see another join the group.

Honestly its really hard to tell what needs adjusting. Because you used different width planks, i cant tell if the run of your planking is wrong or if the transom fillers are too low. But the only way to tell for sure is to measure off the plans. Measure the distance from the top of the wales to the sheer on the plans and then compare to your model. Once you have the sheer correct then you can adjust to transom.

Beautiful job on the base....yes I like it a lot too. I may do a similar base for the Winnie although much much larger.

Thank you very much. No laser etched decking!!!!! I absolutely despise tthem with all the planks laser etched. It makes your entire model look kit-like when finished. A model this size makes it nearly impossible to do anyway. So yes we will be fully planking ours deck with wood strips. But you will lots of help and reference lines to help you out. The false decking.... The false deck is now glued in position. There are six large sheets. They are 1/32" thick. These false deck segments have many laser reference lines. So everyone must be super careful, make sure all of the reference lines match up when positioning these. Most important, make sure the center line between these is actually on the center line. This will ensure all of your fittings and coaming run down the center of the deck as they should. There is a trick that you may find helpful. But first, you should absolutely do a dry run with all six sheets in position. Because everyone will fair the inside of the hull differently, these may be loose or tight on your model. You may need to sand and trim the outside edges to get them to fit properly. Dont worry about having a small gap along the bulwarks. It is more important that you line up all of the reference lines and get the center running down the center..... A good trick is to dry fit all six in position. Then drill a few holes through the false deck sheets and into a few bulkheads. If you insert a few pins in these you can use them as registration pins when you glue each segment in position permanently. Drill all the registration pins for all six segments as you have them all in position. I hope that makes sense. You can see how there are two openings in that photo above for the two coamings which will be open companionways. I decided to go ahead and make these two coamings now. Although I didnt glue them in position. They may get damaged while I plank the bulwarks so I just skipped ahead a bit to procrastinate a bit before planking. You can see how they fit in those openings and on top of the framing you made for them. All of the coaming pieces are laser cut. They go together quickly. They have the camber build into them which is a good thing. You will also get a small right angle jig. You will actually get two of these. There use depends on which coamings you are building. These first two coamings use the 5/64" thick jig. All others will use a thinner jig. You can use the outside of the jig to get a right angle on the coamings. You dont want skewed coamings. I usually build two pieces as shown below and set them aside. Then I take the remining two sides and repeat the process. To finish the coaming I then glue these two pieces together to complete the coaming. This particular coaming is the aft one pictured on deck (J2). I show this one because it has an additional timber that separates it into two parts. There are notches for these and it was easy to just slip it right in and the coaming remains squared up. Then I finish it off by sanding all of the laser char off. I havent applied any finish yet. Once you have the initial coaming completed, you must add thin strips along the inside edges to form the rabbet. This is what the gratings will sit on. These are 1/32" x 3/16" strips. Everything is yellow cedar. Lastly....you must round off the four corners above the deck planking (which we have yet to do). That is why these two coamings (J1 and J2) use the thicker 5/64" jig. Simply use it to round off the corners down to the jig when the coaming is set against it. You can just use a #11 blade to make some straight cuts and then round it off with some sandpaper. You can see the finished corner on the left side. All four will end up looking like that. Only a small amount needs to be sliced off. Dont cut too much of the corner away!!! One last thing.....as with everything else. You can paint these coamings black like the contemporary model or leave them natural. Its up to you. I havent decided yet but am leaning towards painting them black. On such a big model like this I think it will break things up. Otherwise it will look all to similar down the middle of the deck. You guys have any preferences??? The HMS Amazon (contemp model) has a different painted look below....the qdeck is fully painted black while the gun deck only has the sides of the coamings painted black. Which is odd. Finally.....you have the Minerva contemp model....They are all natural on the gun deck and all painted black on the quarter deck. So many choices. You could also just leave them all natural. As you can see I like to really examine and study many contemporary models and that usually just leads to more difficulty in choosing which way to go!!!

That looks pretty good to me. Its good to see a cherry version getting built.

You are correct...that was an error on my part. You will need more planking strips but I am out of stock with those at this time. Chuck

I used CA so it should be fine.

The survey is not per kit.....its a poll or survey on kit brands. See here. There are far too many kits and subjects to create a poll on a specific kit or subject.

Looks great Mike. You are getting close. The home stretch....hows that running rigging coming along?

Paper prints work just fine....they look great and its how the contemporary models were done. You can buy some self-adhesive paper which is very thin by the way, and print them on that. It would be very easy to paint right on top in a few areas only to fake that you actually painted it. But if the original design is done in a painterly style, it isnt needed. They are not easy to do however so they look good. Trust me. Chris has his work cut out for him. I have seen the decal friezes by other kit companies. The water/slide off kind. They look just awful in my opinion. But there will be trade-offs no matter what is selected. Chuck

Looks great Greg....I dont how I missed this update. Very nice. Home stretch!!!

That looks quite good. Its coming out great.

Feeling a little burnt out making rope and blocks....will be back at that tomorrow!!! So today was a good day to start chapter 4.... This is where we start working inboard and get the deck planked and the bulwarks planked. To start, We need to plank the sub decks. Those are those areas that wont be seen and you are just creating a platform for the ladders. Nothing will be seen down there so no need to start constructing coamings and other stuff. Just neatly plank it with 1/4" x 3/64" planking strips. Dont forget to run a pencil over one edge to simulate the caulking. I started by running one strip down the center line and then I worked my way outward. Picture is below....do this for both platforms. In that same photo you can also see a laser cut piece glued to both sides of the bulkheads. You can see numbers as reference for the bulkheads it sits between. This starts the process of framing out the box so we can build the coamings. You can also see that those pieces have laser etched mortises for the frames which will be added next. Next up, I added the beams...this is the center platform in the waist. The three partial "deck" beams were sanded free of laser char. the beams are also laser etched with mortises to accept the carlings. The carlings were cut from 1/8" x 1/8" cedar strips. Please note that these photos just show a dry fit of all of these pieces. The laser cutter does a great job of etching the deep mortises for the carlings. Although this is the case, you should still square them up a bit and clean up the corners for best results. I did this by scraping the mortises with a sharp #11 blade. You wont have to use a chisel at all. All these mortises need is a bit of scraping!!! The carlings were cut to length carefully for a nice snug fit. Dont cut them long and then force them into the mortises. This will force your beams apart and give you problems later on. Take your time with these. You can adjust those deck beams "port-to-starboard" so the carlings sit correctly in the mortises. Make sure they are parallel to the center line of the deck and to each other. Your coaming will be built over this. This is just a dry fit so I could tweak them all. You can see all the reference letters I placed on top of each piece so I dont mix them up when I disassemble it. Then it was glued in place permanently and the top sanded and faired. Here is an image of the aft platform and its beams and framing completed. This is done exactly the same way as the one in the waist. The only difference is this has a central beam which has laser etched mortises on both sides. This should give you a good idea on how I plan to create the quarter deck beams and framing. The ability to laser etch mortises for any ledges and carlings is a huge game changer. This technique will have many many applications!!! You can see how it is possible to get nice tight joints. And now you dont have to worry about measuring accurately for their placement on the beam and using a chisel to make mortises from scratch.

Very nice

Thats looking good Bob. You are in the home stretch!!😃

Its actually an optical illusion......its lined up with the top. Because it doesnt run to the edge it just looks like its aligned with the bottom.

That looks very good. I make them just as you have done.....

It wouldnt have had a name on the transom. It wouldnt have that molding there either. They would have just had a painted frieze.

Tim its great to see your build log. You did a super fine job on Syren and I know this one will be even better. I will follow along. Chuck

That is a very common problem. It is to be expected. You cant blame mfgs for this as a long piece of wood with slots cut tends to want to bend. The easiest way is to create a slot for the keel as mentioned. But in addition, use brackets as a way to clamp the whole thing in position. Once straightened by these and you have planked the wales and above, you can remove the brackets and it will remain straight as an arrow. All POB models should be built this way regardless. Three or four should do the trick.

I think I have a few partial sheets of those black hooks laying around too. If you like them that much I can send them to you at some point. I have to look around in case I threw them out. But I think I have at least one or two partial sheets of hooks somewhere. B.E...next time you order something remind me and I will toss them in the package.

Remember that all group builds and downloads areas are at the top of the page in the drop down.....see below This also includes teh Winnie group and Winnie downloads area. I am posting because some new folks couldnt find the drop down menu at the top of the page. It is also along the right side of the forum as well. Two places to access them.

Unfortunately my suppliers of hooks went belly up!!! The last guy shut down after I placed and paid for a huge order. Needless to say I never got those hooks. I have however just found one stray package of 3mm hooks laying around. I will throw it in with your recent order Glenn. I usually make my own hooks out of brass wire. They look the best when you make them yourself. You can make them any size and length you need that way. But it takes practice and a lot of time. Once all of this virus stuff is over I will look into finding another supplier or figure out how to make them myself.....but that is a long way off.

Man oh Man you did a great job on that. Fantastic. Whats next? How about a that second new build log? I actually like the blue frieze better than the red!!! Chuck