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  1. Hubac's Historian
    No worries, Patrick. The extreme detailing has been going on for a long time now, and it all started with the lower hull.
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    Hi Patrick! You are absolutely correct that there are alignment issues with the lower hull, when you build the kit straight out of the box. That is, in part, why I decided to cut away the lower hull altogether, below the waterline (which I raised by a solid 1/4”, BTW), and make the project a waterline diorama. Ever since I saw photos of Richard Romaniak’s SR - which I had assumed was also cut down, but was actually photographed on her waterline in actual water - I had thought that the Heller model looked much better balanced without her abbreviated lower hull. If you go back to somewhere around page 8 of this build log, you will see that cutting her down was the first modification I made. Doing this was the only way that I could possibly broaden the ship’s beam enough to include the missing sixth stern light. I took great care, while fitting these new bow extension pieces (which were salvaged from a donated (Thx again Popeye2Sea!), damaged hull) to ensure that the alignment fore and aft was true, and that the stem halves were square to the centerline. At the time, this involved some fiddly heat bending of the thick plastic over an open flame, but luckily the extension pieces didn’t collapse into molten pools of uselessness. The hull is fairly large and cumbersome to paint when assembled, though - especially details like all of the gun port linings, where it is advantageous for the work to remain flat while painting. On the other hand, when I am trying to cut-in the top edge of the wales, in black, it will be particularly handy to simply stand my hull halves up on the table, so that my brush hand can ride along the table, as I pull my strokes.
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    After several months of effort, I have finally completed the frieze on the starboard side, at least. I’m still ornamenting the port quarter. Here’s one last comparison shot: Taken as a whole, I think this experiment in stretching Berain’s frieze downward and forward is a success, even though it is not what was strictly drawn. I happen to think that the acanthus escutcheon carvings are just too large to exist between the quarter deck guns, and that their presence, at that location, cramps the frieze. There are certainly many things wrong with the Heller kit, but their decision to move these ornaments down to the main deck level was a sound one, in my opinion, and one that was grounded in documented practice among SR’s contemporaries. A closer look: And, I think, a pretty fair run with the drift rails: While this particular phase of the project represents one of the most dramatic alterations to the kit, and the process of creating it was very educational and satisfying - it was also extremely fatiguing. I love it, but I’m kinda’ sick of it. While I still have work to do on these upper bulwark pieces - the upper amortisement of the quarter galleries, and the bow and stern angels - I will soon put these parts away for a while, after I have cut and framed the two small octagonal windows at the poop-royal level. Following that, I will focus on getting the lower hull halves painted so that I can mount them and begin actually building the model. I bought a sheet of 3/32” styrene sheet that will serve as the base cap of my waterline diorama. Dan Pariser once suggested using brass, instead, out of concern that a styrene base would warp. Styrene to brass sheet would be a purely mechanical bond. My thoughts are that styrene to styrene would provide a welded joint and I plan to gusset and epoxy the hull interior like crazy, for extra lateral stability. Does anyone out there have additional thoughts/experience on this point?
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    I’m sorry Mark, but I have to call you on your modesty. Yours is approaching Amalio standards of flawless execution. He’s in a class, all his own, but you are not far behind. Recently, I saw the Kriegstein Collection model of the Royal James at an exhibition of the Dutch maritime master painters in Washington, D.C.. Now, this is an amazing example of the model makers’ art, of the period. Yet, when compared with much of the work being done today, it seems positively crude by comparison. Of course, the circumstances under which these models were made dictated that they speed up their process a little, and take certain shortcuts in their representation and/or omission of various details. Nevertheless, the models being made today are much more complete and meticulous records of previously obscured and forgotten knowledge. Your efforts and the efforts of everyone else that is dedicated to their process should inspire the next generation of modelers to jump down the rabbit hole. Just incredible! Take a bow, my friend, because you’ve earned it!
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    Life challenges have done nothing to diminish your talents, Doris. As always, the work is superb, and I really appreciate your willingness to make alterations for authenticity, as your understanding of the ship evolves. Your efforts are what this site is all about, and we are all beneficiaries. Here's to better days ahead
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    I love your 74 kit-bash, above, and the work on the Sovereign, so far, promises equally excellent results. I will gladly follow along with your build. The version of the Sovereign that most interests me is the 1660 rebuild, pictured above. I think that, someday, it would be fun to attempt modeling her, at this stage of her career. But, really, all stages of her career were exquisite.
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    You are very welcome, here, Dave! MSW is a terrific place to be and share. I look forward to seeing your Terror.
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    This is really an excellent build, and an interesting model. I will be following along with great interest. Really terrific work!
  9. Hubac's Historian
    Really interesting tip - I love this idea!
  10. Hubac's Historian
    Such a stunningly clean build!
  11. Hubac's Historian
    Shaping up nicely, Dan! I look forward to seeing her next week.
  12. Hubac's Historian
    I am very excited by the release of the St. Philippe. As with L'Ambiteaux, this new monograph should provide a very necessary bridge between the First and Second Marines of Louis XIVs navy. The two models that were on display at Rochefort were extremely impressive.
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    Yes, on my Pinterest page, I have seen this stern image tagged for Soleil Royal. But, then, the connection of this stern view to the starboard quarter view is un-mistakeable, and that image is almost always labeled as the Monarque. The signature on the portrait seems to answer that question, but it is easy to see where the internet leads us in various directions. I have often seen what looks like a pretty amateur line sketch of the Monarque's stern, that is labeled as the Royal Louis. I have yet to find an attribution for that line drawing. That both ships were built in the same yard, within a year of each other, lends credence to the possibility that both ships would share similar architecture and ornamentation, even if they were built by two different shipwrights. Well, this build-log began with a bunch of open questions about what context in which to place all of this imagery. There are some things that I think I can reasonably say identify a particular vessel, or characteristics that fit within the evolution of 17th Century practice. I don't know whether I am right, or not, but I believe I'm closer to the truth now, than when I started. Just gonna' keep on digging.
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    Well, at least one mystery is solved. If you enlarge the third, starboard quarter photo of the Monarque, you will see on the upper left corner of the portrait, an inscription that is partially legible; what you can make out is: ... Monarque ... par P. Puget I only noticed this after blowing it up on my home computer.
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    You’ve been missed, Mark! Glad to see you working again. Interesting, the breaking point; was it an area of grain run-out, looking along the edge of the plank? Anyway, nice clamping work-arounds. She’s coming into form very nicely, indeed!
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    Thank you, EJ, for your kind words and thank you to everyone for your likes and looking in! So, I was quite surprised to find yet another amazing image of the Monarque of 1667. I keep coming back to this vessel because she represents, in my estimation, a pretty close facsimile of what Soleil Royal might have looked like in her first iteration. That every thing is drawn with such an acute sense of proportion and detail lends the portrait (attributed to Puget, who also designed the ornamentation for the ship) a sense of credibility that is akin to the work of the Van de Veldes. This portrait, below, agrees in every way with two other, better circulated images of her stern and starboard quarter, but shows her port broadside under sail. Here is a montage for your viewing pleasure. There is quite some debate, online, as to whether these images are of the Monarque or the Royal Louis of 1668. While the particular headrail arrangement and open, walkable tiers of the quarter gallery mark this vessel as an early construction of the First Marine, I believe the answer to her identity lies in a counting of the guns as compared with the lists of the Kings ships. The Monarque, built at Toulon, and launched in 1667 was armed with 94 guns. The Royal Louis of 1668 was also built at Toulon, but by a different designer, and her initial armament is listed as 120 guns. Counting the guns in the first picture, above, one arrives at 94 guns - according to what is visible; the possibility/likelihood of there being at least two bow chase guns, on the main deck level, only brings you up to 96. That is a far cry from 120. Now, up until now, I have been operating under the assumption that the following image is of the Royal Louis of 1668. However, in light of this conversation about armament, it seems much more likely that this is the Royal Louis of 1692, carrying 110 guns. According to what I have learned, so far, the significantly reduced sheer, the semi-closed quarter galleries and the triple-tiered headrails are more consistent with this later, Second Marine development of the kings navy. Counting the visible guns, and assuming four bow chasers and four stern chasers, one arrives at 110. So, there's that. If that is, indeed the case, then this portrait has particular value for my modeling of SR in 1688/89. Now, according to memory, I believe that Michel Saunier told me, once in response to a side conversation, that the following image is of the first Royal Louis: Perhaps that is so. It does appear to have the completely open quarter galleries. Interestingly, the image does show 16 guns on the lower battery, which only La Reyne and Soleil Royal were supposed to be armed with. Nevertheless, that 16th port, closest to the stem was only armed by moving the next gun aft, forward, when required. So, at most, the first battery would only have had 15 actual guns per side. I'll have to look back on that correspondence to confirm, but I think that is what Michel was telling me. Anyway, all pieces of a very complicated puzzle! Make of it what you will.
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    Incredible attention to detail. I’ve always said that the first time you build something is when you get into the nitty gritty of drawing it. Fabulous insights into the why and wherefor!
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    Applying the frieze is a lot like cutting-in wallpaper; you have to work your way into and around projections, without distorting the repeat of the pattern, and the only way to do that, really, is just to take your time. On the starboard quarter, the frieze is almost fully in place. There is one last small segment that bridges the two upper bulwark halves, but I will wait to glue this in, until after I have installed the upper bulwarks. I want this joint to be as seamless as possible. When you build the kit, as stock, much of the joint is covered over by the main channel. Now that I have lowered the channels, though, it will be imperative to do a good fill job on the joint. The stern quarter bulwark is scraped clean of any squeeze out, and the X’s have been lightly relieved to give a more three-dimensional effect. This piece is now ready to be adorned with foliate diamonds, shells and fleur-de-lis. I can’t write that without thinking of Lucky Charms cereal ☘️ This closeup gives a better sense for some of the difficulty of breaking the frieze up into smaller and smaller segments for the cutting in. Foliate diamonds will cover the joints in the center of the Xs, and will be let between the pointy joints where the upper and lower tiers of the frieze meet. I shortened the ears of the crowning ornament, above the window. This will make a more sensible layout for letting-in the foliate diamond, just forward of the window. On the other hand, the forward bulwark pieces were much more straight-forward, and placing them was much easier and faster. The difficulty with the forward bulwarks was fitting the fleurs. I still had to do a bit of shortening and re-shaping of the central petals to get them to fit within the allowable space. I still think they’re a little too large, but the effect is pleasing enough that I don’t feel motivated to make new, smaller masters; this is especially so, after seeing the now completed model of the Saint Philippe, with it’s diamond-hatch frieze of significantly smaller fleurs. Granted, the St. Philippe’s frieze is more dense. Nevertheless, smaller is better in both cases. Anyhow, this would be one of my hard limits on this particular model. It is close to what I drew, in the first place, and in scale with the black and white Berain drawing, where the fleurs are quite large. In wood, though, I would go the extra few miles to get it absolutely right.
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    I’m really enjoying your process, here, Dan. Interesting tip on the wood hardener!
  20. Hubac's Historian
    Yeah, I won’t be waiting too long on this one! In build news, the starboard frieze is going up nice and methodically. It’s a lot like wallpaper, with the cutting in and around ornaments and openings. I’ll post pics when I have a nice progression. In the meantime, here’s a nice rendering of a typical French second rate, of the period: This drawing provides a good sense for the convolutions of the quarter galleries.
  21. Hubac's Historian
    So, this is kind of a big day in my build-log! After much waiting, Ancre publications has finally released the monographie of Le Saint Philippe of 1693. This is a collaborative effort between Jean Claude Lemineur, and the modeler Jose Tusset. Here is the link: https://ancre.fr/en/monograph/93-le-saint-philippe-1693.html The reason this work is so significant to me, and particularly for this project, is that Le Saint Philippe was one of the new ships of the “Second Marine,” which was the major rebuilding program, following the losses at La Hogue. This rebuilding program marks the beginning of the long pushed-for standardization of French naval architecture into a codified rate system. Because SR’s rebuild in 1688/89 is so close to the re-construction reforms of the second marine - it is plausible that the re-built, first SR would have incorporated much of the design elements that would be incorporated into the new navy. My approach to modeling SR has always been a sort of forensic exploration, using contemporary sources to fill in the numerous blanks of the Heller kit. From the instant I saw early photographs of the Tusset model, I recognized many of the more prominent features of the model I was proposing to build. I expect that this new monographie will be an invaluable resource, and a much-needed one for the details of hull form/design, ship furniture, arrangement of armament, masting, rigging, etc. Oh, and did I mention that it’s available in English?! I know what I want for Christmas!
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    As if your modeling skills weren’t enough, your photo-shop skills are second to none, Dan! It is amazing when you consider the deck to deck complexity of such a large vessel, that you can re-align all of that detail, and come up with a coherent set of plans. That effort, alone, is invaluable to the community. You are off to a tremendous start, here, Dan!
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    Hey Guys! The reason I didn’t paint the frieze lattice first is that I was primarily concerned with establishing a strong bond; I would hate, after all of that work, for elements of the frieze to just flake off, easily. In my view, this is no different than if the detail had been moulded into the kit, in the first place. In my twenties, I had a really steady hand for this. In my forties, I guess we’ll just have to see. The other issue was that applying the lattice has to happen in segments and controlling the squeeze-out is really difficult. With an already painted ground, you would be messing up the paint, anyway, to scrape the squeeze-out. Lastly, I couldn’t make the shallow relief cuts where the Xs cross until the lattice pieces are firmly mounted on the bulwark plates.
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    Alright, so after all of that tedious cutting out, I can begin placing the frieze lattice. Please bear in mind that this seeming, non-sensical gap will eventually be bridged by the upper finishing of the quarter gallery. In the meantime, I have left the ends overlong to allow for cutting in. Also, the edges of the frieze lattice may look a little ragged, but that’s just squeeze-out from the styrene cement, which will later be scraped away. These pieces are really welded on, now; I degreased the upper bulwarks and I give the backs of the frieze segments a light sanding before glue. I must have spent an hour checking and re-checking my starting point in order to be sure I allowed the propper space for the quarter gallery, but also in an effort to optimize my ornamental layout, so that I didn’t have too many oddly cut away shells or fleur-de-lis. There will be the odd one, here and there, but not many. Until now, I wasn’t really sure just how accurately I had measured and drawn the upper bulwarks and all of their piercings; I did pretty well, I think, to come +/- a light sixteenth. There was enough latitude to shift the whole layout left or right, in order to make the best of these discrepancies. So, more to come later. Thanks for looking in 😀
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    The whole ornamental scheme is really coming together, EJ. She looks awesome!

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