-
Posts
3,201 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Gallery
Events
Everything posted by Hubac's Historian
-
I found this super clear photographic essay of the Winnie, on YT. Maybe most of you have seen this already, but it’s worth a look if you haven’t: That channel is an excellent one to subscribe to, as it does similarly excellent photo essays of a wide range of dockyard models.
- 1,784 replies
-
- winchelsea
- Syren Ship Model Company
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
What about “hack,” as in a quick and easy hack to do so and so? I am already making use of your tips. The mirror chisel trick is really good when trying to square the ends of very small stock, like 1/8” square stock. So, thanks for that! Eric, thank you also for plugging my build! The check’s in the mail 😉 I appreciate the kind words, Keith! I also like to do that sort of cross-pollination of other builders’ work, and have often been delightfully surprised by someone else’s suggestion.
-
This is a very clever method for stropping that I will be adopting, myself. Is there a particular CA, or other adhesive that you like for closing the strop ends?
-
I am glad to be reminded of one of my all-time favorite models. Drazen, I hope you are well, and that we may soon see your latest progress. All the best, Marc
- 487 replies
-
- ship of the line
- 80 guns
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
Congrats on your 5-month anniversary, Bill. Your progress, in that span has been nothing short of remarkable! She’s looking spectacular. The deck weathering shows particularly well.
-
The stove is taking shape nicely. I still have to build out the interior, which is clad in iron plating. I’m toying with representing the brick work, on the top edge, but it will not be visible at all. I have to also attach the three skids that the stove sits upon, on the deck: This is a fun little scratch project. There are also rings and other small bits of hardware that will be attached. Thanks for looking in!
- 2,607 replies
-
- heller
- soleil royal
-
(and 9 more)
Tagged with:
-
Thank you T_C and Eric! Well, it is interesting to attach names of artists to the one aspect of the original ship’s ornamental appearance that was well documented: the great cabin ceiling. Below, is the correspondence that details which artists were to be paid, and in what sum for the seven painted panels of this elaborate coffered ceiling: The survey of 1688 details precisely what these paintings were composed of: There are a couple of things about the ceiling drawing, apart from the artwork, that interest me. First is the aft-ward taper of the ceiling, culminating in the round-up of the stern. I have learned, over time, that this kind of drawing is often very precise and reflective of the true shape and reality of the thing in question. The other main example of this is Berain’s stern drawing which reflects the pre-1673 reality of SR’s wing-transom. That being so, it is really fascinating to me how closely the shape of the ceiling mirrors the aft portion of this drawing from 1679, by Etienne Hubac, which illustrates the ideal proportions of a first-rate ship: Unlike SR, though, the wing transom in Etienne’s drawing is shown below the stern chase ports, in accordance with the Reglements of 1673. Getting back to the ceiling, though, it’s shape is significant because the ceiling was preserved, during the re-build and then re-installed on the ship. This suggests that the framing of the ship, and her shape would not have changed much - beyond the reduction of her sheer-line - even if much of the so-called dead-works (above the waterline) was horribly rotten and had to be replaced. The other interesting detail of the ceiling drawing is the space and pilaster arrangement of the stern windows. There are five full openings and two half-openings at the ends. My Quebecois friend, Guy, believes that this may be why the Tanneron model only shows five stern windows, within the QGs. Given my position that Tanneron’s model is a hybrid between what SR 1670 may have looked like, and what SR 1693 probably looked like - that makes some kind of sense. Remember, though, that this ceiling drawing was made before the ship was taken to pieces. Personally, I believe those half-lights, at the extremities, were likely false-windows that appeared whole from the exterior; their framing would simply overlay the timbering structure of the ship’s sides. What this means is that the ship would appear to have 7 stern lights, between the open-walk quarter galleries. The early constructions of the First-Marine seemed to favor a profusion of stern windows, or at least the appearance of such. Along those lines, SR’s near-sister La Reyne, as drawn by the VdVlds in 1673 with 8 stern lights: Consider, also, this drawing if the DR of 1668, showing 7 stern lights: And the RL - also with 7 stern lights: As for Tanneron, as I have mentioned before, he seems to have consciously departed from the Berain drawings of Le Brillant and L’Agreable, when making his models of those ships. Very pertinent to this ceiling discussion is the Berain drawing of L’Agreable from 1697, which shows 7 stern lights within the QGs: Tanneron chose to model 5 lights: Similarly, Berain’s drawing of the coronation of Le Brillant’s stern is notably different than what Tanneron chose to model: Where is the lambrequin carving that should be beneath the central crown, and from which the swagged draperies hang down and frame Louis’ cameo relief? Why Tanneron chose these departures, I cannot say.
- 2,607 replies
-
- heller
- soleil royal
-
(and 9 more)
Tagged with:
-
I appreciate the thoughts there, guys. Thank you very much.
- 2,607 replies
-
- heller
- soleil royal
-
(and 9 more)
Tagged with:
-
From a life standpoint, my sister and I have made tremendous strides in sorting out our father’s affairs, and our current biggest hurdle is getting approval from his long-term care insurer for assisted living. Steadily, we are getting there, and I appreciate those who have asked, just as I appreciate everyone who comes to visit me here. I have managed to sneak-in a few hours, here and there, and I have completed all of the port side buttressing knees of the channels, and I got everything nicely re-painted and pretty. In general, lowering the channels pretty dramatically changes the whole aspect of the model, and the difference is pleasing to me: The mizzen channel knees were challenging to cope over mouldings and around the fleurs, but I am happy to have lowered them to here, where there is less interference with the frieze: I am using this portrait of the DR, circa 1680, as justification for this placement: I continue to comb through the archives, but I have yet to find anything vividly descriptive about the ship’s pre-refit external appearance. Despite the beautifully florid cursive, I’ve come to realize the hard truth that the letter writers and record keepers of 17th C. France were basically clerks. Mostly their correspondence has to do with SR’s comings and goings; armaments and dis-armements; payments made/owed to painters and sculptors; cost estimates relating to her refit, etc. It is all fascinating, and it will all get its due mention in my book, but it does not help me paint the picture of the ship. Where are the artists sharing their wonderfully descriptive observations, when you need them?! What I’m hoping to find is something along the lines of this: ”The morning fires shone brightly upon the gilded ornaments of Soleil Royal and her heights rose up and became one with the azure sky. The warrior of the Americas clung resolutely to the port side, while that of Africa peered off in the middle-distance - daring his lesser adversaries to emerge from the morning mist. Presiding above, with shimmering rays of gold and silver gilt bursting past his golden chariot is the Sun King, himself…” And, so forth. It must be out there, somewhere, right? Anyway, I can now get busy with fitting and prepping the starboard upper bulwark for paint. I can also go ahead and design my stove - that will make a nice little side project. Before long, I can design and make the next tier of stern lights, which will enable me to finish off the wrapping stern walk. As always, thank you for your likes, comments and for looking-in. More to come!
- 2,607 replies
-
- heller
- soleil royal
-
(and 9 more)
Tagged with:
-
Good morning, Eric. Although it seems you are past this stage, I was considering the problem of your aft templates. Although I don’t know much about ships of this period, it does not seem insensible that the aft bulwarks would transition from almost perpendicular to the deck, to an inboard taper at the transom. That being said, your decision to shape to the parameters set by the decking and bulwarks seems like a sound approach. As long as your hull is fair and symmetrical, you can’t go too far wrong, here. If you decide to introduce camber in both directions, you’ll want to begin with the longitudinal deck sheer first. The shape of this arc, between stem and sternpost should be indicated on the sheer plan. Once that’s established, you can camber down, athwart-ship, from the centerline. I hear what you are saying about the decking material only bending in one direction, but I wonder whether the degree of camber, in both directions, might not be manageable because it isn’t extreme. If you were to use veneer tape to join the main deck halves, it would be a pretty simple test to see whether this is possible, before you ever take a rasp to your currently flat deck space. As for the clamp dents have you tried to steam them out?
-
Matiz, your pace is astonishing! Are you able to work on the model, more or less, full-time?
-
This has been a very impressive restoration, LDF! It has been a while, since I checked-in, but you have made tremendous progress.
- 740 replies
-
- Tudor
- restoration
-
(and 4 more)
Tagged with:
About us
Modelshipworld - Advancing Ship Modeling through Research
SSL Secured
Your security is important for us so this Website is SSL-Secured
NRG Mailing Address
Nautical Research Guild
237 South Lincoln Street
Westmont IL, 60559-1917
Model Ship World ® and the MSW logo are Registered Trademarks, and belong to the Nautical Research Guild (United States Patent and Trademark Office: No. 6,929,264 & No. 6,929,274, registered Dec. 20, 2022)
Helpful Links
About the NRG
If you enjoy building ship models that are historically accurate as well as beautiful, then The Nautical Research Guild (NRG) is just right for you.
The Guild is a non-profit educational organization whose mission is to “Advance Ship Modeling Through Research”. We provide support to our members in their efforts to raise the quality of their model ships.
The Nautical Research Guild has published our world-renowned quarterly magazine, The Nautical Research Journal, since 1955. The pages of the Journal are full of articles by accomplished ship modelers who show you how they create those exquisite details on their models, and by maritime historians who show you the correct details to build. The Journal is available in both print and digital editions. Go to the NRG web site (www.thenrg.org) to download a complimentary digital copy of the Journal. The NRG also publishes plan sets, books and compilations of back issues of the Journal and the former Ships in Scale and Model Ship Builder magazines.