Keith Black

Mark, welcome to MSW. I know it's hard to stop and take photos but we'd love to see your work. Please reconsider and start a build log. Glad to have you aboard.

George, the quote below is from an MSW build log, post #17, see link. Evidently black antifouling paint was available in 1901, Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) "According to an old textbook on marine engineering (Steinhaus, 1870), antifouling paints were available at that time in a variety of colours, including reddish brown, green, black, white, yellow, and blue. Basically, you just add the pigment of your choice. Their biocide effect was based on inorganic lead and in particular copper compounds. Concerns over heavy-metal contamination in harbour muds and the search for a higher efficacy led to the development of tin-organic compounds. However, these are being phased out since the 1990s, when it was discovered that they act as 'endocrine disrupters', meaning that they lead to malformation in aquatic animals that come into contact with them. The problem is that antifouling paints not only act toxic to things that want to stick to a ship's bottom, but slowly wear off (which is part of the antifouling process) and become dissolved or settle in particles in marine sediments. Here their toxic or endocrine disruptive actions continue. I believe in more recent years antifouling paints put more emphasis on non-stick properties and slow wasting that detaches whatever tries to held a foothold. I gather red(dish brown), green, and black were generally preferred colours, because these resemble the appearance of either coppered or tarred ships bottoms. Muntz-metal bottoms would have looked yellowish to green-greyish, depending on their age. The Austrian navy actually used a pinkish paint on their iron and steel hulls before WW1, btw. Appart from being a waste of money, paint may not stick very well to copper because of the oxide layer that forms rather quickly on its surface. The picture in the first post is not very clear and I don't know anything about the vessel in question, but would it be possible that a protective sheathing of wood was applied on top of the coppering for travelling in areas where there was floating ice ? This sheathing in turn may have been painted."

Richard, this is going to be a very nice looking dory.

Nicely painted figures, Bob.

George, I wonder if the black paint below the waterline is a different hue/flatter in color because of antifouling agents added to the below the waterline paint?

Jacques, love your project. You could sew on a black heavier thread at the bottom of the net to represent a lead line or use rectangular beads to represent lead weights unless you want to use rocks going for a primitive look. 1.5 x 6mm https://www.potomacbeads.com/brands/miyuki/miyuki-bugle-matte-black-6mm.html?utm_source=google&utm_campaign=21535371558&utm_adgroup=168367494649&utm_term=&utm_id=pla-294682000766&utm_medium=g&feeditemid=&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAA-ChLIA4TI2G6Jx2vA-aDGxqNYTe_&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIy7fqgZm-iAMVOzQIBR1YRgW9EAQYAiABEgIhO_D_BwE 1.5 x 3mm https://www.potomacbeads.com/seed-beads/other-shapes/bugle-beads/miyuki-bugle-black-3mm.html?utm_source=google&utm_campaign=21535371558&utm_adgroup=168367494649&utm_term=&utm_id=pla-294682000766&utm_medium=g&feeditemid=&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAA-ChLIA4TI2G6Jx2vA-aDGxqNYTe_&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIy7fqgZm-iAMVOzQIBR1YRgW9EAQYCCABEgKe1_D_BwE

Incredible mind blowing work, Valerly. I'm in awe that you've been able to machine that much fine detail into that small of a footprint.

Funny reply but I was hoping it was a narrow boat cruise. I'm madly in love with narrow boats and the English canals. If I could do it all over again.....

Is this a narrow boat journey, Keith?

More likely it'll change from BC/AD to B3DP/A3DP. IMHO, 3D printing is going to be the great game changer in modeling. My generation is so far behind that curve it'll have little to no impact on us but for future generations, not only is there the allure of model making but also using computers to create programs and the use of 3D printers which is becoming second nature to most kids of today. My dear mother was so worried about me using airplane glue when I was a kid that I had to build my first model ship (Viking Longship) using Elmer's white glue which of course was a real dog's lunch of a build. But today's kids, early on, are given the power to generate launch codes and everybody accepts today's early introduction to computing power as a perfectly normal and acceptable thing. Ken, thank you for the assurance regarding Tichy. It's just a shame that San Juan seems to be getting off to a rough start.

But Tom's wiser and mother loved him best.

Thank you to everyone for stopping by and the likes. it wouldn't have surprised me one bit if you had made that window, Gary. Gary, thank you for the Grand Line Products heads up but they've been sold to San Juan Details which appears to be part of American Limited Models. I tried placing a order Sunday evening without success. I sent an email and then called their posted phone number and a gal's voice said she was only there from 10:45 till 2:30, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, nice gig if you can get it. I called this afternoon and I still got her VM. I have yet to receive a call back or email reply. Moving on.........so I deleted everything in my cart at San Juan Details and placed a order with Tichy Train Group, https://www.tichytraingroup.com/Home.aspx. I've yet to receive a tracking number but they did take my CC and provided an order number. They claim to make their own stuff and say they keep everything they make on the shelf and ready to ship, we'll see. Thank you, Glen. I still haven't received the Vallejo paint but am ready to move forward with the Apple brand. Thank you, Keith. That's just one of the many great things about MSW, the exchange of information and knowledge. Modeling a hundred years ago had to be tough sledding. No Google search for information with only your wits and experience to complete a project unless you were fortunate enough to be a member of a club or had friends with like interest. I'm dragging my feet a little waiting on windows from Tichy, slowly framing shed sides. I was so dreading making the the shed due to cutting inaccuracies but the RP cutter is SO much fun to use, I sit there cutting pieces and am amazed how easy that process now is. Thank you everyone for the support. Keith

That's machining poetry, Keith.

Peter, welcome to MSW. Glad to have you aboard.

"He's a magic man, oh, he's got the magic hands"

Jay, I've been missing seeing your build updates. I hope all is well with you and yours.

Impressive work, Chris.

This such a beautiful model. I enjoy every update, Rick.

Thank you everyone for the kind comments and likes. Thank you, Richard. Thank you, Gary First off, Gary. That window blows my tomato! Tom, Gary. When I first opened the bottle of Gallery Glass there was a subtle whiff of what I remember Elmer's smelling like from many years ago. I could be wrong but GG maybe nothing more than Elmer's with an added thickening agent? Whatever the formulation it works which is the important part. One doesn't get proficient after only a couple of tries, I need to practice on several more opening before I'm ready to use it in the final application. Getting the 'just right' amount seems to be the trick and that's only going to come with experience. GG in windows on left, windows on right destined for further testing. Glen, this is the Apple, Barn Red. Better? I haven't received the Vallejo Red as of yet. The Apple brand craft paint is very thin compared to the Folk Art brand craft paint. Thank you to all for following along. Keith

Tis amazing work, Keith.

Gorgeous, simply gorgeous, Ilhan.

Greg, congratulations on completing Le Pourquoi-Pas. I think she turned out looking great.

A hearty welcome to MSW. Hopefully MSW and ship modeling allows you to stay a step ahead of those unwanted memories. Glad to have you aboard.

You're a breath of fresh air, Bob. You make it a joy to follow along, thank you.

Thank you, Bob. The water tank was a fun little element to make, in fact this whole project has been a kick. The RP Toolz Miter Cutter is a top notch tool and the cost of $124.94 including shipping is some of the best money I've ever spent. I can't believe how I've needlessly struggled all these years by not having the RP Cutter or a like kind razor cutter. RP's model is small, a mere 4.7 x 6 inches but it's heavy being all metal, no plastic. It is a joy to use and everyone here deserves owning the RP cutter or a version thereof. I sent the owner of UMM an email telling him how much I was impressed by the cutter and thanking him. I'm pretty hard to please but saying I'm pleased is an understatement.