
GrandpaPhil
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Questions Before I Buy My First Ship
GrandpaPhil replied to Magarkus's topic in New member Introductions
I would personally recommend Vanguard Models’s Cutter HMS Alert or one of their fishing boats for a good starter kit. The gentleman who owns the company and designs the kits, Chris Watton, is a member of this forum. His kits are top notch. The instructions are phenomenal. -
This model is incredible! What about double layered card, sealed? I’ve had a lot of success making mass small detail parts from it. I’ll be making the window frames from card, for another model later this year.
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The Main Deck Rope Coils are on: There’s a band that goes around the base. I only put the bands around the ones at the Foremast, because I don’t think it adds anything to the model at this scale and actually detracts from the appearance.
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Xarifa 1832 by lostinthewash
GrandpaPhil replied to lostinthewash's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1801 - 1850
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Thank you very much, OC! A bunch of very small rope coils, that still need a band around the base: Those were a doozy to make!
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Thank you all very much for the likes and the comments! I greatly appreciate all the feedback and the technical assistance. Prior to buying my Solferino kit, I had no idea this entire epoch of naval history even existed. To expand on Eberhardt’s point, here’s the cross-section of the hull, including the wood frame, and both interior and exterior planking with the armor plating: This is at 1/72 scale. The planking, with the iron plating, works out to around 13.5”, or 343mm, thick. That’s about 3/16” in 1/72 scale. 120mm of that was the iron armor. The other 220mm of that was the outer planking. Also, the increased thickness of the outer planking around the waterline should be noted. Here’s the detail sheet for the armor at 1/72 scale and then the original drawing, converted to .jpg format is below (the ones I found on the French Ministry Of Defense’s website were .tifs). I have to say, whoever designed this ship did a beautiful job of it, especially considering the tech level at the time. I could not imagine trying to attach that plating to the hull. I’ve done steel/iron working before. That stuff is heavy and unforgiving. Trying to maneuver one of those plates, which must have weighed at least several hundred pounds apiece, into place, punch holes in it (even if the holes were prefabricated), then drive spikes or rivets through it to affix the plate to the hull, must have been a job and a half.
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Yes, she was. Magenta was essentially a two-decker that the French armored and put a steam engine in. She was pierced for 95 guns but only carried 55. She was also only armored along the waterline and the battery decks where the guns were. I’m assuming that was because of the weight.
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I just got a whole lot of leftover oversized valentines cards, today. They are about the same size and thickness as the sheets of poster board that I’ve been using for my models. The Prince de Neufchatel only used 5 sheets of poster board, and that includes all of the hull framing pieces. I am going to use this card to make many of the fittings (and possibly part of the hull covering) on Magenta. One thing I’ll have to be careful about is the thickness of the hull framing, planking and armor. Between the planking, framing and armor, the thickness of the hull will come out to about 7/16”. That’s very thick for a model. This ship was designed at the end of age of the wooden warship. So, consequently, she was designed to take a beating. As a result, the planking was incredibly thick, and then on much of her, she wore nearly 5” of armor. The body plan only goes to the outside of the frames. So, I’ll have to take great care to ensure that I get the correct sizing of the bulkheads since I won’t be using wood planking. The hull covering will be around 1mm overall, not including the armor plating, which will be cut individually out of thin card.
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I’m greatly looking forward to the release of the Indy! Your kits (including others that you have designed) are amazing! I have your Victory Models plan set of the Revenge. It’s incredible! If I didn’t have 2 two-deckers and the Victory going, I’d have already bought the Sphinx. Once I get those 3 I have in work done, you can count on my buying at least the Sphinx and the Indy!
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This model is incredible! I have learned a lot watching it be built.
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