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The assembly order of certain details take some thought beforehand. For instance, having perused (and I'll have to do a lot more of it) the Hackney book - there are some halyards that end in a double block going to one side or another near belaying pins for the associated mast. There is a corresponding double block below, whose becket is held by a deck eye below the pin rack. A line from the becket on the lower end of the halyard block is sheaved through the deck block, back to the halyard block - then down and back for a second sheave before going to the assigned belaying pin. I occurs to me that said deck block would be best installed on the deck even before the deck is cemented in place, as getting one's fingers or tools into tight spaces can be a pain. The blocks on the original are 'internally stropped', which is why some have used the plastic ones in the kit (even though out of scale). The fully scale blocks form HIS seem a little 'too small' for my skills, so I'll probably compromise with something 'in between' out of wood and strop them with line. The deck block could be tied to the intended deck eye, and I'll use a commercially available one (one source is the parts department of Model Expo ... their new catalog has NO Black Pearl or pirated kits that I can see), or just make what I need and put the end of the deck eye clear through a small hole drilled in the deck so the end can be bent and epoxied underneath. The halyard block can be laced to the deck block (again, before deck installation - and this goes for several such block arrangements extant on the CS) with extra line temporarily wrapped around the lines running between the two blocks. Much later, when the masting and sparring are being assembled as they would when building an actual ship, the end of the respective halyard can be put (stropped) around said halyard block - the method I use is to tie a small 'hangman's noose, then pull tight, cement and trim. The final adjustment would them be made on the sheaving line already between the two blocks - which is then belayed, with a 'fake' coil places over the respective pin. 'Seems like a lot of thought to go into this particular detail, but it will make the rigging process less frustrating in the long run - having pre-thought out every move ahead of time instead of just 'winging it' as I go along. I note that there are also blocks mounted on the pin rail itself in places. Every line has a purpose, so I have to learn them all. This is why (after much pondering) I'm eschewing sails altogether ... they 'hide' a lot of the model anyway. Without sails, bunt lines can either be 'stopped' by a stop knot at the bunt blocks - or omitted entirely. Underhill shows how a luff line can be combined with the outer bunt line (bunt bent to leech p.169, fig.151 ... IF one wants to include sails) and two bunt lines can be rigged so that they are controlled by a SINGLE resultant line whether sails are included or not (p.163, fig.150) that goes down to a belaying pin at deck level ... a compromise that will reduce the 'spaghetti' effect of all separate lines while maintaining authenticity. Yup, more advance study and planning.
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Masts are sections of tree trunk, of course - so the growth rings (harder than the early season wood in between) encircle throughout. Take a look at the 'end view' (or a stump) of a newly felled tree and you'll see what I'm talking about. a living tree has an awful lot of water content, and much of this is lost once cut as it dries ... but there is always a water content (unless left in the desert, and even then there is a little). Wood shrinks width-wise as it dries, so the further out in circumference the greater chance of a serious crack developing - which will run up and down. Oiling dried wood helps lessen the travel of moisture in or out of wood in the short term - furniture makers know all about this. Strong forces can bend and snap a mast, and if you simulate this by snapping a branch often large 'shivers' connected to one piece or another can be produced. Wrapping rope around in bands will significantly reinforce the mast section against snapping. Perhaps you've seen period cannon with iron or steel 'bands' around the barrel ... they also do reinforcing.
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I've just re-read your entire log, and find it to be highly instructive ... I'm still mulling over how to deal with the Revell 1:96 Thermie kit - that is with modifications to make the deck layout closer to the original (once I've finished my present project). Everything about building the hull, painting, etc. is food for thought. I recommend leaving the log on MSW as a benefit to those with an eye on building these kits. Hull building is one phase ... and the rigging of a ship appears to be a whole different trip - perhaps more demanding than building the hull in phase one. I'm half dreading and half anticipating the challenge when I get to phase 2 of my build. Edison said, "Invention is 1 percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration". Yogi Berra said, "Baseball is 90 percent mental ... the other half is physical". I suppose both may apply to ship modeling.
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I find myself constantly repairing one snafu or another. Patience and persistence can go a long way in this hobby ... as well as imagination. Then there was a time (as a teen) when my all-wood Cutty Sark (can't remember if it was from Sterling or a Scientific kit)that happened not to be in a case received a direct hit from my kid cousin's shoe that he'd thrown across the room with great force (trying to hit my sibling). The damage done by the shoe was further increased by the model's 6 foot fall to the floor. Of course I was stunned and dismayed, but did I recon the ship a total loss? ... well ... yes, regrettably - and the teenage 'me' just didn't have the heart to try and rebuild all the masting and rigging (the adult 'me' would have). Incidentally, that cousin did so much damage around the house - such as ruining my father's 'war trophies' of an Orisaka rifle and a Japanese Naval Officer's sword (with a samurai blade) ... as well as attempting to burn our house down, that his parents were told in no uncertain terms that the bad boy would never again be allowed to visit (perhaps at least until he'd 'grow up' quite a bit). Hmmmm, parents tend to defend their offspring 'no matter what' they've done - so none of them ever visited again. I plan to make cases with acrylic panels (glass is heavy and can break) for things I'm working on these days that won't fit into a hutch with glass framed doors.
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BTW mate, try to salvage stuff for use elsewhere ... like those nice 3D brass stanchions !
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I don't think anyone's suggested "Dust Off" ... compressed air in a can. Some have plastic tubes (like WD 40) to direct small shots of air into crevices. Have a couple cans handy, because as one is used the can gets COLD and the pressure drops ... something to do with thermodynamics. BTW, outside is best to do this on a mild day - or perhaps in an open garage. Suggestion #2 would be to use an air brush w/o paint ... just the air. Or #3 the nozzle from any air compressor. Getting the 'lion's share' of dust and debris off before using brush or Q-tip may assist in the process.
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"Much of the satisfying work of life begins as an experiment, and no experiment is ever quite a failure." Alice Walker 1944 -
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'Super job, mate ! I love the old 'battleship grey' ... for a while now it's been Hayes Grey underway. The figures bring the ship 'to life' and add a lot to the impression. 'Don't know if I could have managed the fine PE as well as you have.
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I made a 'fairing tool' by taking a hacksaw blade, grinding off the kerf of the teeth (and dulling the teeth as well), then using contact adhesive to glue sandpaper to both sides of the blade. The blade can be gently 'flexed' to get it to deform into a curve, and then can be rubbed against bulkheads, planking (whatever) to get a nice even and gradual curved shaping.
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Are these lifts correct?
Snug Harbor Johnny replied to Louie da fly's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Steven, 'Looks to me like the 'block' at the yard ends are similar to a 'violin' block. There is a single lower sheave and a single upper sheave. As the yard is raised, the angle of the lift changes - so the lower sheave permits a single rope with both ends fastened to the yard to automatically re-adjust so the tension remains even. A line starts at the top end of the block shown (method of attachment not detailed, but could be a becket), goes up to the first sheave of a double block below the top (out of the picture), comes down and passes through the single upper sheave of the yardarm 'violin', back up to the second sheave of the double block under the top, then down to a rail (or other attachment point) at deck level. -
Ahoy! 'Came across this item of interest on how the Titanic (and other contemporary vessels) were fueled (coaled). In spite of significant technological developments, this old-school, grimy and laborious job of hand loading thousands of tons of coal still had to be done. Once fed down the exterior chutes, the coal had to be distributed, then hand stoked 24 hours a day into the massive furnaces ... and the constantly produced ash had to be disposed of. 'Must have been a hot and grueling job down below, and their grog at shifts end was well earned.
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I was perusing 17th century warships and came across the wreck of the HMS Glouster (built 1652, wrecked 1682) recently located and now a protected site. A painting shows the same course plus topsail configuration I was talking about.
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The 'original' (1960s) Billings Vasa (their label - Wasa) had one bulkhead a bit too "fat", and I didn't appreciate the need for fairing it 'presuming' that it was that way on purpose. Rule 1 - Never 'assume' anything about a kits contents or instructions. Adding material to a bulkhead that doesn't come out far enough should be done as early as practical. I know about thin bulkhead pieces braking off at deck level, mostly because there is often just a central ply with a veneer on each face. This makes the grain of the core the predominant grain subject to whatever weak direction it has. There are hobby plywood made up of multiple layers that are better, as well as making up one's own 'plywood' of whatever species veneer available - then transferring the outlines using the stop bulkheads as patterns. Strategy #2 is to cut out those spindly projections (leaving a notch in the side of the main part of the bulkhead), and gluing a solid piece of wood with favorable grain as a replacement. The more advance precautions made early, the fewer problems later on.
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'Love that 1692 RL drawing showing just main and topsails on the fore and main masts. The flagstaffs above the topsails are short and spindly enough that they could (if they ever were so fitted) only handle the puniest of top gallants (which I doubt). I saw a representation of the 1628 Vasa (aka Wasa) similarly rigged, which gives me a reason to try and finish the one I'm working on in that manner. Given that Vasa was krank from the outset (perhaps the reason that a forecastle deck was not installed due the weight it would have added with ordinance), the 1692 RL configuration seems more likely.
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Great idea to fix things to the deck early in the process ... A friend showed me a model built by her late father, where a fife rail had come loose because it was just glued by the end grain of the post to the deck - and tension from the rigging (humidity changes?) had pulled it loose. For my build, guess I'll have to rely on a piece of wire in the post to help, and perhaps some ohter reinforcement.
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Old Johnny's been busy prepping the yard and garden for Spring ... and now I'm hit with an order for over 30 Colonial Soldier hats I do on piecework for a Sutler ... so first a small update on Vasa. I decided to wrap 22 gauge brass beaders' wire around deadeyes that measure a little over 4mm and twist the end. That made it easier to slightly enlarge the holes with a wire drill. I'm NOT going to pre-lace with mating deadeyes ... a wise choice it seems. a small loop was formed around the end of the wire so it could be secured into the pre-drilled hole with a tiny brass brad. A small amount of gel CA was put on the underside of the channel where the wire comes out - and the adhesive 'wicked' into the hole nicely. A small amount was touched to the brad to allow for similar capillary action. Once the CA hardened (which was not long), the channels are now WELL reinforced, whereas before they were subject to breakage (splitting). The dead eyes are not tight in the wire, but they can be rotated as needed later. Now (for something completely different) I'll post some photos so you can see what I'm doing with the hats I mentioned. The blanks are supplied by the Sutler, and he has to get them now from China ... they're nowhere near as good as the blanks he was able to domestically source before Covid. My model is 'awash' in a sea of linen hat liners I made - strips are first cut from a bolt I have to source. I sew them on a 'good 'ole' Kenmore I modified for coarse work. I use a fabric glue (acetone based ... so it might have an application with model sails) to set the band in before sewing ... I find it convenient, all the blanks are different (I use an adjustable hat plug to gauge each one, as the hats are made to order) and the bands are hand trimmed during the tacking-in step. I use an old Wilcox & Gibbs straw hat sewer (loop stitch) over 100 years old to sew the liners (they are adjustable hat bands with a shoelace tie). I had to do a lot of work to re-condition the motorized mount for the machine, as well as get the darn thing set-up and adjusted for the work I'm doing. 'Couldn't get needles, so I had to modify some that were close to begin with. Using a single-thread loop machine is different than with a bobbin machine. Once I got everything working, things went OK (for the most part). In the last photo (I'm not showing the addition of perimeter hat trim on the Kenmore), you can see the 'high arm' (large 'throat') of the machine ... many like this were sold overseas as a lot of hat work has gone there. The remaining ones (Singer machines are better) are coveted (not just by collectors) and closely held by various sorts of hat makers. I was REALLY lucky (after about 1 1/2 years of searching on the internet) to get this one from a woman way out on Long Island who had reduced her hat business to a solo operation on one machine. There were two others that 'needed work' and one junker. I picked a nearly operable one that had an inside stop (turned out to be essential for my task), but got her to swap feet with the other 'work needed' machine, since the foot on the other machine was a narrow type (also very helpful) that could work right up to the bend in a pre-formed hat blank. I hauled the machine and stand in a minivan and payed $500 cash 'as-is', and ended up disassembling the stand, sanding, painting, rewiring the motor and controls using proper conduit. I used $150 or so of materials that included a new leather drive belt and different pulley to slow it down from the 'lightning' pace of an industrial machine ... also some hard-to-get needles. Now I've got to do this hat run (must be Spring muster time) before I go back to model making ... and before stuff has to be planted outside.
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You DID finish, and your comments/observations are honestly put - so for others 'fore warned is fore armed'. I see your point on scale differences - one reason I wanted to 'stash' Billing's Oseberg and Roar Ede - both at 1:25, whereas the latter's predecessor (Vikings skibbe) was 1:20. My old version Wasa (Vasa) is 1:100, so it should go with anything I build at 1:96. Yet the hull size of several models at differing scales as viewed by the observer, don't present a visual 'disconnect' if the model lengths are comparable. E.g., the Endurance about 1:72 has a comparable model size to all of the above. A 1:150 Robert E.Lee will also 'fit in' - smaller scale, but a longer prototype. 'Guess that's just one opinion on display pieces. Smaller models will go into a different case. It was said that , "Opinions are like posteriors ... Everybody's got one." And I have a high opinion of everything I can see in your display case !
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Plastic or Wood models? Your Favorite?
Snug Harbor Johnny replied to Bill97's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
Sorry if I was misunderstood ... I grew up with plastic models of all kinds alongside stick-built rubber powered model planes ... later gas powered. My foray into wooden ship modeling wasn't until my teens, and was 'interrupted' by College, marriage, career, etc. Now semi-retired, I'm 'back in the game', and have in mind eventually doing for the plastic Revell Thermopylae what Bruma did for the Cutty Sark - except that some major modifications will be needed to attempt correcting some of the inaccuracies of the 'cloned' release of Thermie from the Cutty Sark molds. It will be a marriage of plastic and wood. BTW, I love your Airfix Wasa, one of the classic kits they did in a 'reasonable' scale. Their much smaller Cutty Sark (not the 1:130 stated on the box, but in actuality about 1:168) presented too many difficulties for me at this stage in life - although photos in the 'Classic Ships' book on that kit prove that SOMEONE with enough skill, dexterity and patience was able to do a decent job on the 'stronger' plastic original release from fresh molds. Now and then one can find an example of a ca. 1970 release. I'll revise my earlier post for better clarity. Johnny -
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I have even GREATER respect for modeling possibilities after seeing some of the great plastic-based builds on MSW. Check out Cutty Sark by Bruma ... THERE is a masterpiece based on the classic Revell CS kit, but with a number of 'busts'. Krill did a masterful rendition of a Spanish Galleon - having a SUPERB paint job and outstanding rigging. Rob Riederrich has used the Revell CS not just for the Cutty, but also modified into the Glory of the Seas. The present U.S.S. Arizona build shows what the incorporation of PE details can do. I could go on, but I think you get the picture. We're into this not just for the result, but the journey of building and the learning and experience gained. PS: To see either my Wasa (Vasa) in progress, or the completed Khufu barge, you can click on either link at the bottom of my posts. I've done other stuff, but a lot of it doesn't exist any more. -
On many period fabrics (and true to the present day) patterns can be seen on both sides when colored threads are part of the weave. Of course, there is a "good side" (where the decoration looks best) and the "back side" - OK, but not as attractive as the front.
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Snug Harbor Johnny replied to Bill97's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
Ahoy, Bill ! One advantage to wood is that one can re-do or re-shape things per one's whim. My Wasa (Vasa) build re-started with work I did decades ago on a planked hull kit issued well before all the original ship materials were recovered and restored as can be seen today - in person or on-line. I found that I could radically re-do things by just cutting into the wood and modifying ... (even more could have been done, but there are limits). You have already skills far beyond beginner, and I can recommend kits from OcCre (available in the U.S. from several suppliers) that should prove more than satisfactory. The Endurance (some build logs can be viewed on MSW) seems a good value, and can be enhanced as some have done. If cannons are your thing, OcCre has kits for the Beagle and the Terror - two other 'ships of discovery' with storied pasts. You won't need plastic glue, but 'Titebond' (or aliphatic resin carpenters' glue) will be a 'go-to' for wood-to-wood joining. Also PVC 'craft' glue can be used for some applications, and (of course) Cyanoacrylate (CA). I'm a fan of using medium gel CA and touching the spot I want to 'weld' with a dauber that was dipped in CA 'accelerator'. I've used some plastic enamel (Testors), as well as acrylic flat paints. Good Luck! Johnny -
The Antikythera mechanism (found in a roman wreck that sank ca. 50 BC/BCE) was essentially an 'Earth Centered' Orrery - since earth was thought by most to be the center of the Universe back then. There are many nested shafts and some complex gearing, like that which approximates the changes in the moons orbital speed (they did not know of the ellipse then). Several modern reconstructions have been made with modern gear forms to reduce what amounts to awful backlash with triangular teeth. Ah HAH, (again) ... I realized that I have the BOTTOM of the kit box from Billing Boats, and it only measures 22" wide. With an inch needed for clearance/packaging, a full-length single keel wouldn't have fit for a true 1:100 Vasa. 'Kind of looks like something 'rear ended' my model ... but it still has the appeal of a miniature.
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