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I don't think it is essential for 2nd planking, with thin strips and ca glue. I will trying to make neat joints to the stem post when I start the 2nd planking.

While I waiting for the gun port glue to cure I decided to experiment with Chuck's planking bending. I used one of my spare gun port strips as the curve template. Heat was applied to the plank using a hair dryer.

Bending Station

Resultant Bent Plank

I also cut some cardboard strips and measured the length of the bulkheads to get an idea of the required plank widths.

I then started work on the planking. After much debate and testing I decided the first plank could be fitted without any tapering. Once again the preformed rabbet slot made the task of test fitting and installation so much easier.

I have attached the 4 off gun port strips this morning. I soaked the 4 gun port strips in hot water for 30 mins.

I started with the bow starboard gun port and located the front end tab in the rabbet slot and then carefully bent the strip around the bulkheads clamping as I went along, ensuring the gun port port strip top edge followed the top edge of the bulkheads.

I was pleased to find the back end of the gun port strip back lined up perfectly on last bulkhead. I then used some pins to secure the lower edge of the gun port strip to the bulkheads. I then repeated this process for the port side bow gun port, and once again everything was a perfect fit.

The two stern gun ports strips were then fitted, again without any problems.

Both gun port strips were a perfect fit around the stern patterns. As noted in the instruction manual there will be a bit of sanding to remove the excess strips once the glue has fully cured.

Once again the precision Chris has taken in design and manufacturing this kit is awesome and makes the task of building this model so much easier.

I'll do my best to start slicing some flesh when I start the planking.

Hi Spyglass

I have never dropped a boat before. I am usually very careful. I was shocked to see the damage. The stem post had shattered along the rabbet and although I did try to repair the broken parts there was too much damage to make it possible.

No blood on my boats either, famous last words.

I had a major, self inflicted problem, last week. I managed to drop my assembly on to a concrete floor when starting to fit the gun port patterns and damaged the build beyond repair.  I did try to repair it. Thankfully Chris has been able to supply me with the necessary replacement parts and it has only taken my a few short hours to get the build back to the same stage.

I have now moved my build area away from the concrete floor.

This time around I was confident how the bits would fit together so I went ahead and glued the parts together without any dry fitting. Like Vane I managed to snap off the fragile stern frame patterns (all 4 off them in my case) this time around when I has fitting the main deck. Thankfully I was able to glue to lower stern pattern to the remaining stem bits without any problem. Afterwards I was able to reattached the broken parts. I was then able to fit the upper stern pattern. Fingers crossed the gun ports will be fitted without any problems once the glue has fully cured overnight.

The stern post is clamped but not glued at this stage to enable the stern panels to correctly fitted. It is glued in place after the 2nd planking

Stage 4 - Fairing the Bulkheads.

I made my first mistake with the build and fitted the inner stem post prior to completing the fairing. I actually thought the bulkheads were looking pretty good and would not need much more work. The inner stem post was a tight fit and it is not possible to see if this part is correctly fitted to the false keel. As far as I can tell it is correctly fitted. If I doing this build again I would dry fit this part prior to fitting bulkhead parts 17 and 18 and make some pencil parks to indicate when it is correctly fitted. I would then keep it in place, using some tape if necessary, until I need to complete the fairing process when it can be removed.

Stern Post Fitted

Templates

To ensure the bulkheads were properly faired for the gun port strips I decided to make cardboard templates. This proved to be a good call and did highlight that some of the bulkheads required a bit more fairing.

The template showed that a couple of bulkhead required some more work 

Template is now seated nicely on each bulkhead. I then repeated this process for the stern gun port strip.

Fairing

Once I was happy with how the gun ports strips would fit I proceeded to fair the rest of the bulkheads, using an old planking strip to check the contact areas on each bulkhead. Pre fitting the inner stem post made it a bit tricky but not impossible. It did not take too much effort before I was happy with the end result. Chris's suggestion of bevelling some of the bulkheads and filler pieces prior to installation certainly helped.

Total Build Time: 7 hours.

Stage 3 Fitting Deck Park 36 - Part 2

As the test fit with the cardboard template did not reveal any fitting issues I went ahead and installed the deck plank. It went in much easier than I was expecting. After checking all the contact areas I added pins where necessary to keep the deck fully in contact with the supporting frame.

Deck Pinned

As I was keen to prevent any damage to the fragile stern frames I also fitted the two stern patterns. The first task was to clamp the rudder in place to ensure the lower stern pattern is correct positioned.

Rudder Clamped

I used a mixture of CA and wood glue for the lower stern pattern, using the CA for the curved contact areas and wood glue to seal all the joint contact areas. I used wood glue for the upper stern pattern. Clamps were used to ensure the stern patterns remained in contact with the frame. I did remove the excess wood glue that is shown in the following pictures.

Time spend on build 5.5 hours.

Stage 3 Fitting Deck Park 36 - Part 1

In order to get confidence the deck part 36 would fit OK without any modification I opted to make a cardboard template.

The cardboard template seems to fit OK so I should now have the confidence to simply glue the actual deck part in place.

Stage 2 Assembly of the bulkheads, lower deck and deck beam supports

I did a dry fit of the bulkhead and deck support beams and everything fitted without the need to adjust any of the pieces. The design of the kit makes the build progress very easy as everything fits together so well. The crew are watching the build with interest!

As I was very happy with the dry fit I glued everything in place and left it overnight to allow the wood glue to fully cure.  I followed the advice in the build manual and bevelled the edges of bulkheads, 2, 3, 14, 15 and 16 before gluing in place. This, in my opinion, is a great way to go as it made the sanding job so much easier. I also  bevelled the edges of the various filler pieces before gluing on place. I think it will only require minimal sanding to finish the fairing prior to fitting the gun port strips and 1st planking.

The stern frames (30 and 31) have been fitted. These parts are fragile so the stern patterns will be fitted to add strength as soon as the main deck has been glued in place.

I am now ready fit the deck and I hope it will fit Ok without and need to enlarge the slots but I think it is going to be difficult to assess as one of the design ideas that Chris has added is a slot to hold the deck in place, as seen the following photo.

I am a little worried that if I dry fit the deck to make sure it fits OK will I not then be able to remove it so I can then add the glue.

I think the deck will require a large degree of bending when it is fitted and I trust I will not snap the deck.

The crew is still watching waiting for my next move.

Time on the build to date is 4 hours.

Hello Chris

H.M. Brig Sloop Speedy kit has arrived safe and sound. I was very impressed with the care taken with the packaging of the kit. My first impression is that the material supplied all look to be very good quality. The instruction book and plans are very well put together and contain a wealth of information.

I have dry fitted bulkheads 2 to 15 to the false keel last night as a test and I am very pleased to report that the slots did not require any sanding which is an added bonus. They were all a perfect fit which was brilliant. I plan to dry fit a few more parts later today to get a general idea of the build process for this kit before starting the build in earnest. I have noted the build estimate of 50 to 70 hours. I plan to take it slow and steady (which is very unlike me!) so I fully expect my build time will exceed this.

I have started a build log where I will chart the progress of the build.

My first impression of the kit is very good. The kit was very well packaged, both externally and internally and the quality of the materials looks first rate. The instruction manual is very well put together and the layout plans all look very detailed.

The estimated build time quoted in the instruction book is 50 to 70 hours. I plan to take my time with this build so I fully expect my build time will greatly exceed this.

Stage 1 - Building Cradle and Dry Fit of Bulkheads 2 to 15 to False Keel
I have assembled the MDF building cradle, which was all I was going to do today. However as this task took very little time I decided to release the false keel (1) and bulkheads (2 to 15) from the MDF sheets and then to dry fit them.

I am very impressed with the way the bulkheads slot easily on to the false keel without the need to file, see picture below.

Time spent of the build is 50 minutes.

My HM Brig-Sloop Speedy Kit is out for delivery and I am really looking forward to receiving it later today. I have been studying the on line build instructions and have started making notes in my build log book.

 I have undertaken a general review my general stock of material and tools and have ordered some items which I am either low on or do not have. I will also invest in a mouse sander and small travel iron in the next few days. I have not used the AK interactive AK174 product listed in the instructions for blacking the copper parts but I will buy a bottle and give it a go as I think it may yield a better end result than my normal painting method.

In all my previous double planked builds it has been necessary to mark out a beading line and file the false keel. There was no mention of this for this build and Chris has confirmed to me that there is no requirement to do this for this model and you simply sand down the keel after the 1st planking so the 2nd planking sits flush with the rudder. This seems to be a great improvement compared to my previous builds.

I also liked Chris's tip of using a water based wood filler ( natural colour Ronseal) which he then dilutes with a small amount of PVA wood glue and water. However he did say that it is not needed as much for the pear wood as the edges are pretty good.

I have never tried Chuck's edge planking method before but have studied his video's and posts. I am intrigued by the edge bending method and can fully understand the reason for it and why it works but I am having difficulty visualising it at the moment.  I don't think it is absolutely necessary for the 1st planking (as it is hidden) but I will use for the 1st planking so I can get proficient with it in readiness for the 2nd planking.

The suggested method of pre tapering the bulkheads prior to fixing the false keel sounds really good and something I thought would be a good idea in some of my previous builds. 

With the laser cut deck I will probably go ahead and use it but I would like to see how practical it is to cut it up to use some of the more detailed parts in conjunction with normal deck planking.

Are you using Chuck's planking method for both the 1st and 2nd planking or just the 2nd planking?

I have never tried Chuck's method before but will be using it on Speedy. I plan to use some spare planking material before I start actual planking with the kit supplied material to get an idea of how the method works in practice.

Hello Derek
Many thanks, when looking at some of Chris's photos included in the online manual extract it did look like the false keel had been sanded prior to the first planking. I will have a look once the kit arrives.

I have been looking at Chuck's sideway plank bending. It looks interesting and is something I will experiment with when I start my planking.

HMS Speedy ordered today, looking forward to receiving the box so I can start work on building this model.

I will follow your log. I have just ordered the HMS Speedy Kit and look forward to starting work on it when it arrives. I have created a build log and I'm also planning of posting some videos of the build. I am interested to know if the false keel (Part 1) needs sanding and the aft so the overall thickness after planking matches the rudder thickness as I have not seen any mention of this?

I have just ordered the HMS Speedy kit and I'm looking forward to starting the build when the kit arrives. I plan to keep a build log and maybe also track some progress with some video's.

I have order the Vanguard Model HM Brig Sloop Speedy. I am looking forward to receiving the kit and starting work on this Chris Watton design.

Worked has continued on my Scottish Maid  build.

I have now completed the 1st planking and got the finish nice and smooth with plenty of sanding.

I have also planking the main deck and fitted the bulwarks and stern counter. I used 70mm long deck strips and also used a pencil to simulate the tar between the planks.

I've just commenced the 2nd planking and will be using 100mm long  planks, offset between each row.

On ‎8‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 12:56 PM, Shipyard sid said:

Greetings  All

                        I have taken my Diana out of storage, and decided to continue my build after approx three years.  I tell a lie !!!!!.   All I hear from friends is. “ Where’s that Diana ?”   “ That Ship should have been finished by now” or “It’s about time you started building that ship again” or words to that effect. So I have given in to all the earache I get. As I said I have today got my self ready to continue. I had reached the stage of cutting out the gunports after finishing the first  planking. The ports are roughly cut out on the starboard side, and I intend to line them next, and then start on the Port side.  Unfortunately I cannot locate the two instruction books which I know are in the house somewher,  but I do have  all the plans to hand. What I need to know is the gunport sizes which I think are 14mm x17mm  and if the four gunports with lids ( three at the stern, and one at the bow) are the same size.  I also need to know the strip size I should be using for the linings.  Thanks to you all in advance for your help. DAVID.

 

Welcome back Sid. Its a coincidence that after stopping a couple of years ago I have just restarted with a new build.

With much filing and sanding the bulkheads have been successfully faired. I spent quite a bit of time on this task and I was constantly checking how the 1st planks would fit on the bulkheads.

I have now started the 1st planking. Once again I have taken my time ensuring the planks are correctly bent. I fitted the top plank first, using a small jig to locate it 3mm below the deck level.

I then fitted a second plank at a point along a line where it terminates nicely where the stern post fits.

I also used three small plank offcuts to space the second plank at the mid point.

The main deck and bow deck supports have now been glued to the keel assembly as I decided I would prefer to plank the main deck in situ. Based on my previous deck planking experiences I'm planning to use 80mm long deck planks, using either a 3 butt or a 4 butt shift pattern.

I have also started work on building some of the deck fittings, and I have been adding little bits here and there to  improve the general appearance of these items, noting these items are still work in progress. I have also opted to paint the eyebolts required for the deck hatching black, as can be seen.

My next task will be fairing of the bulkheads in readiness for the start of the 1st hull planking.

The first task was the dry fitting of the bulkheads, mask supports, and decks to the false keel. I was pleased that everything seemed to fit without any additional work. I then marked out the dead area at the stern end and proceeded to reduce the width down to 1mm at the edges to ensure when the planking is completed it will be the same width as the stern counter.

I then glued the bulkheads, mast supports, bulkhead supports and lower decks to the false keel.

Even though the two lower decks will not be visible once the main deck and deck fitting are installed I decided to go ahead and plank the two lower decks as I wanted to experiment with a couple of different planking methods.