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Fantastic work as usual and i can,t wait to begin planking ,my favourite part .Although i have never done it single plank, so many instructions and pics will certainly be a big help .

Lookin good Rusty . I am also in the pear camp but am thinking pear up to the wales and possibly Tulip above but still not decided  . Have noticed a lot of builds with diff colors above and below the wales ?

Your certainly giving us something to aim for , If i can even come close i,ll be happy 

Boyd.

 I had started with 5mm ply and then changed to 5.5 mm so i agree the practise is usefull . Did get my sheets to day and thankfully all is good  . so onwards and upwards 

cheers Boyd .

Sorry to hear of your mishap but now you have got me worried , I had problems getting the AO sheets printed and went ahead anyway .Am hoping to get them to-day so will need to check .At least it,s only ply but it,s the 

time wasted that would annoy me .You were better to find out now than further down the line .

Boyd

Frames all glued in and now preping for fairing .I noticed a few of my frames slightly out of line from port to stardoard (left to right ) so took the precaution of adding small spacer blocks to keep everything in line before fairing , added advantage of making the whole frame a lot more solid . Found a simple solution to supporting the bulkhead extensions (sticky up bits ) ,some old stiff packing foam ,with the added advantage of supporting the hull when upside down for fairing .Again some pics ..in no paticuliar order .

Tks all for lookin in.  I am taking pics on an i-pad and it seems to distort the colors quite a bit , but u get the general idea . Still can,t figure how to get pics in correct order and add text in between so forgive me if it seems a bit muddled at times . My naming of individiual parts may be a bit basic at times so bear with me if i mention " pointy bits " or " curved thingies " as i try to explain myself . Enough confessing !!!!

I haven,t managed to find anywhere local that can print those humungous A0 yet (another advantage of living in the sticks ) so took a chance and went ahead with adding the stem knee and keel assembly . Only variation to Chucks excellent instructions was that i glued the curved section of rabbet to the stem, and then fitted this to the ply bulkhead former ,meaning that any trimming to fit the curve came off the ply rather than the pear stem. Everything seems to have worked out ok . I must say this is a very clever and simple way of forming the rabbet line which is something i have struggled with before . Thanks Chuck .!!! Although as the pics will show i also did a few other variations . I used 0.5 mm brass wire to simulate the bolts on the keel and i used a strip of almost but not quite black wood for the false keel . I do like the contrast of different woods and as the build progresses this may become a habit , Managed to set up the build board and made a few of Chucks brackets which work great and easy to make .

Welcome from N Ireland . Every build is a learning experience so the next one will be better . Perfection is something to aim for but can never be  reached . Just enjoy and don,t be afraid to ask questions ,the folks here will always help . 

Havw fun ,Boyd

Tks for all the likes folks ,some times i will need encouragement . I made up the bow section from pear and although it may not be to everyones taste i love the look of natural wood grain , this has just been given a coat of sanding sealer for some protection and again i,m pleased with this type of finish 

Quick couple of pics tto show progress , Still nothing glued but all cleaned and fitted to what will be the rabbit line , i thought it better to do this before fitting the raddit and hull? ,which will come next with build board . 

lol ,,well that didn,t go to well maybe a bit of bouble clicking going on as well . Anyway nothing u don,t already know .Prit used to stick ,i find works well and is easy to remove . I didn,t try to cut to close to the line with the bandsaw and again when cleaning up on the bench sander tried to just leave the line on . Stayed of the line when cutting the slots due to my thinner plywood ,although am wondering if too tight a fit could restrict room for glue so left a clean sliding fit . Also left the bottom of the frames slightly proud to leave room for final fitting to rabbit.  Am thinking they would be a lot easier filled and shaped before the keel etc goes on  . won,t be gluing anything utill everything pre fitted . The reference marks on the frames are scribed with a blade and then marked with a pencil , just in case anyone thinks they will disapear when i remove the paper . Must admit i,m enjoying this project so far and look forward to following everyones progress 

Boyd

Morning all , As i know u are like myself and enjoy plenty of pics i thought i,d post progress so far . I went ahead with the 5.5 ply which in fact is 5.4 -5.7 so the admiral got to keep the bed after all !!  This is just the basic stuff and how i did it ,no doubt there are better/ different ways so feel free to offer advice or opinions , i,m open to all and any suggestions . Sry pics not in order, i need a refresher course . 

Mike , tks for lookin in ,your build is a gem . i appreciate your concern but i still feel that as this part of the build will not be seen  i can fill out out when and if necessary . i,m probably wrong and have been before but time will tell . Let,s face it this model will not be on public display and as someone said it,s the journey that matters ..I live in hope !!!!!  Worst case senario i have to start over so i,m always learning !!!

Gregory ... I,m a farmer by trade ,,an inch means nothing to me ,lol

Bruce .. The amount of ply it takes for this build i would need the bed as well as the table , then she would be happy . I live in the sticks with limited local suppliers and past experience from online buying has left me wary . Problem now is nothing is like 50 years ago .All to do with cost i assume ?

tks Brian , i,m sure there will be plenty of problems down the line , It,s all part of the fun finding the solutions . I think it will be fine , it will give me something to think about in bed at nite ,,,,lol  .

Boyd.

You are hereby releaved of any responceability, LOL.  I  think i,ll chance it and worry about the consequences later , I,m no purist so don,t mind shifting a few things about to fit .. On my head be it and thanks for taking the time to answer , I knew this would be a fun build !!!

Best i can get is 5.5 mm . Cut a few today and it,s much better quality in my limited experience . Would u consider it safe to continue for sake of 0.5 mm ? . all ply here seems to be less than 6mm .

Seems to have worked . So first question . Bought a sheet of ply yesterday from my local supplier . we work in mm here so i asked if it was 6 mm which should be 1/4 . he assured me it was just short of 6 mm but on cutting a few pieces last nite i diccovered it was only 5 mm ,plus i think he said it was Chinese and to be honest i don,t think it,s great quality . would ply of 5mm or a good 3/16 cause problems to overall build as well as possible warp issues down the line .Don,t want to start off doomed from the beginning . Will search further afield today to see if i can find something better but just wondered if the 1mm could cause diffs later on ? 

Well at least i have made a start, and find those excellent build logs full of usefull info .

Boyd.

Hi all , just checkin that i have set up my build log 

Ok , i think i have seen enough . I,m in . My not so recent attempt at the Triton POF and several return attempts has convinced i need to learn more before attempting such a complicated project without instuctions and tools so the" Winne" sounds like the perfect project . Part of my problem is lookin for shortcuts and not following advice so hopefully with so many other builders and off course the masters advice i can settle myself to lisen to my superiors and do as i,m told . My plan is to do a complete scratch build from the plans although some parts , eg carving may be beyond me . I do have a fair bit of pear wood in stock from my triton efforts and wonder how that would look in this build ?  I,m not a fan of painting and again this could cause some problems ,but will look into diff colored woods before i begin . Will take a couple of weeks before i set up a build log but lookin forward to joining this happy group . Standards are high but thats the way to learn i guess . look forward to seeing u all soon .Oh btw    Chuck your a genius.................

Boyd 

Welcome Tony .. i have to agree about Billings instructions from past experience ,but as u say it,s a good way to learn , don,t be afraid to make mistakes ,we all do and learn from them . Good luck with your build .

Boyd 

I will let u know when i get them 

Hi Jorge . The books are the  Fully Framed Model Swan class  available from Seawatch books who have a link down the right side of the homepage here . They are not cheap but come highly reccommended 

Just a few pics of how the stern section finished up after a few redo,s and modifications .As i thought i had to remove the last 2 cant frames to install the new transoms . Have partially sanded them to make sure they are close to correct and will finish sanding later . Not sure if the rabit line is correct but worked on the assumption that the planks need to fit smoothly into it and as i don,t intend planking i,m happy if it looks the part . Have ordered vol 1+2  of FFM but having read Chuck,s post about the US customs problems am not expecting a speedy delivery if ever ,so will carry on blindly in hope . Next is the bow section ,, wish me luck ????

Frank Mastini gets my vote as well ,good glossary at the end 

Welcome Scott from sunny N Ireland 10 degrees above here . I agree reading is necessary but the best way to learn is building , something simple to begin with to get the feel for it  ,. Best of luck . 

Boyd