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That looks great. It's called the steering gear box. It contains the mechanism that converts the rotational force of the helm to the rotational force of the rudder post. The reason it's angled is because it's easiest to make the gearing meet at a 90 degree angle and the rudder post isn't straight up and down. the wheel will act at 90 degrees to the rudder post and therefore the helm isn't straight up and down either.
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Cool pics. She was an interesting ship, that's for sure.
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Gil, I'm already rigging her. Wish I'd have found this site before I started building the hull though. I'll try to get pictures up and a build log started at some point but the Christmas season seems to drain time away like water from a bathtub.
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That is one beautiful build you've got going on there.
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Nor can we.
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Looking sweet there. Only problem is your last comment. No more posts until the new year. Have a great Christmas season Ed. Look forward to upcoming posts next year.
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That's odd. Well good luck with the build. Looking forward to seeing her rigged.
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Cool details.
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I supose I was a little off in my guess then. A windlass is for the anchor. Winches would be for the cargo. A windlass has an axle that turns on a horizontal axis. A capstan turns on a vertical axis. I have no idea about those other parts either.... There's no description or name for them in the instructions? Maybe a picture of where they go? If you have that I could probably tell you what they are. They are an odd looking part considering the cabin ends with port lights are already installed on the model.
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Those pieces either side of the figurehead are called trailboards.
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The funny shaped pieces that seem a bit brown look like the ends of either the pumps or winches to me. There should be some sort of piece to connect them. either throws for the pump heads or drums for the cargo winches.
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How about a pic from further back so we can see the full effect? Those little sculptures look awesome.
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Joggling is the term. You joggle the planks in. Woodenboat forum will have information on that if you're interested in knowing more about it. The reason behind it was to allow the builder to caulk the seams. He needed a certain width of plank to allow his caulking iron to fit. There's no way to insert a 2 inch wide iron into a 1 inch space at the end of the plank so instead of tapering down that far, you joggle the plank to allow the iron to fit. The irons came in different sizes of course but practically speaking, you aren't going to caulk (pronounced "cork" by many) a plank with a pointy awl, you need a chisel shaped calking iron. FYI, a good experienced caulker, supervising newbies could often tell how fast his proteges were progressing and how well they were doing by the speed of their mallet blows and the sound they made. They make a sort of ringing noise. Caulking mallets are always used, no rubber mallets or hammers here. if it didn't "ring true" he knew his apprentice was botching it up. And now you know where the expression "ring true" comes from.
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Those guns look awesome.
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Sailor1234567890 replied to grsjax's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
What scale is this Ariel built to? Is there a build log somewhere? -
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Sailor1234567890 replied to NenadM's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
I have the Campbell plans and Lord only knows how much study/reference material on the ship. I guess it's just a matter of scaling up the drawings I have and working from that. First I finish the revell kit, then see about a scratch build I guess.- 4,152 replies
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Phew, glad you knew. I'd hate to see her with the wrong mast. And to "upgrade" to a bigger stick like that would have been rare. I have always wondered what a 28 gun frigate would look like with the mainmast of a 36 gun frigate. In the parlance of the trade, the "mainmast" would refer strictly to the lower stick. The main topmast, main topgallant mast and main royal masts would have been refered to as such even if the royal and topgallant were the same stick. I am led to believe that this would mean she simply would have carried a heavier lower main mast, likely several feet taller. This would enable her to carry a mainsail or main course that was correspondingly deeper. A bit more sail area and the tophamper would have been a bit higher up. I suspect it would have improved her sailing abilities provided she was properly ballasted. The extra weight would have been pretty much in the middle of the ship so trim wouldn't be an issue. The extra weight aloft would need to be properly countered with extra ballast but since she carried a full set of spare cannon in the hold, I doubt this would have been an issue for her. As refit, I'd say she'd be a faster sailer than as originally designed. I'll be keeping a close eye on your progress. Cheers, Daniel
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So we're all in agreement then that Underhill's masting and rigging book is the bible. I am glad, I figured it was when I first read it 15 years ago. He's got a few other books out there that were awesome reads. I was incredibly lucky to attend a nautical college. I could litterally lose myself in there for years reading up on stuff. The sheer volume of nautical books in that library was incredible. And the college was a subsidiary of a university that also had a really good nautical section in it's library. I loved hanging out in those libraries at school.
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Cutty Sark by NenadM
Sailor1234567890 replied to NenadM's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
What is the purpose of the mirror finish on the anvil? You're just going to bang on it anyway. I know you want a smooth flat surface such as when lapping a chisel or spokeshave where a plate of thick glass is also handy but is a mirror necessary? What advantage do you get from a mirror surface? Just curious. -
I have no cats, so no worries about that. Dogs can't reach the mantle piece where I keep her so that's not a problem. Kids playing ball in the house though....... I better not catch him........
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That's a significant difference. Le Superbe was a warship and likely 15 feet or so more in the beam. Likely deeper as well. She certainly has a much different prismatic coefficient so she's a MUCH bigger ship even if she's 10m shorter. Probably twice the tonnage or more. I wonder how their sail areas compared? Thermopylae likely has a larger sail area, significantly I'd say.
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Sailor1234567890 replied to NenadM's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
I wonder..... Hmmmmm.... Could I scratch build her? I've never built in wood, only from plastic kits and not all that many of them....- 4,152 replies
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