bdgiantman2 Posted July 8, 2017 #181 Posted July 8, 2017 You are doing an amazing job on this model of the Utrecht. In my research of these beautiful ships, I have never personally seen before those slides for the lee boards. Nice job making those slides. Do you think that the Yacht Mary would have had such slides for the lee boards even though Mary was almost a century before Utrecht? Have heard that the Dutch liked to stay consistent with how ships were built and designed such as the statenjachts. Looking forward to hearing from you and viewing the next update. Brian Piet, Omega1234 and mtaylor 3 Quote
Angarfather Posted August 1, 2017 Author #182 Posted August 1, 2017 Hello Patrick and Brian. Many thanks for your kind words! Brian - The Dutch have built statenjachts from the beginning of 17.century to the end of the 18. The leeboards were used in the Netherlands from the sixteens century. All drawings and paintings from this times I know shows the leeboards. Fx. van der Velde shows in teh 17.century many of this nobel ships, and all of them had leebords. Also the plans of such ships from the 18.century. Also the plans by Pieter van Zwijndregt, van Genth and others ( Maritim Museum Rotterdamm ) shows this components.And the Mary? She was a typical dutch statenjacht. Therefore I think that she had leebords. On 8.7.2017 at 9:54 PM, bdgiantman2 said: Have heard that the Dutch liked to stay consistent with how ships were built and designed such as the statenjachts. Looking forward to hearing from you and viewing the next update. Brian I think you are right in this. In that time shipwrights,, whole in Europe, I mean,were very conservative constructors. Best regards Hartmut Omega1234, Piet and mtaylor 3 Quote on the : Staatenjacht Utrech At last finished: Gianna a Pinco Genovese HMS Agamemnon
Angarfather Posted August 1, 2017 Author #183 Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) Aye, Mates, some pics from the last weeks. Next job is the modeling of the mast. first parts to make were the chainplates. 2mm brass square tube. The eyes are silver soldered. The full channel To turn the lower mast I had to extend the machine bottom of the lace. The masthound. Making this octagonal part by sanding on the milling machine. The throat halliyard block . pearwood and aluminium The lower mast Next part: the bow sprit flagg stuff. A nice piece to make. Best regards Hartmut Edited August 1, 2017 by Angarfather archjofo, G.L., Piet and 11 others 14 Quote on the : Staatenjacht Utrech At last finished: Gianna a Pinco Genovese HMS Agamemnon
Omega1234 Posted August 3, 2017 #184 Posted August 3, 2017 Hi Hartmut Nice! Very nice, in fact! I especially like the block that you've made. Talk about a 'work of art'.... Cheers. Patrick cog, Piet and mtaylor 3 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
Angarfather Posted August 16, 2017 Author #185 Posted August 16, 2017 Hello PatricK! Many thanks for your kind words! As you wanted - some pics from the modelling of blocks. First step: Drill in to holes at the end of the slots. Second step: milling the slot in between the to holes Next: forming the block by sanding File in the groove for the metal fitting and drill in the hole for the axis of the sheave. The fitting with its eyelet. 1mm brass soldered with silver The finished block. The sheaves are made from 8mm aluminum some pics of the rigging jobs. the shrouds The two back stays Best regads Hartmut Omega1234, cog, Captain Poison and 11 others 14 Quote on the : Staatenjacht Utrech At last finished: Gianna a Pinco Genovese HMS Agamemnon
cog Posted August 16, 2017 #186 Posted August 16, 2017 Very nice work Hartmut, she is showing her future shape, and details. It won't be long before she is all dressed up and ready. Didin't know we Dutch had such colourful boots/yachts, when you look at the paintings from that period, we are wearing such a depressing dress colour Omega1234, mtaylor and Piet 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Omega1234 Posted August 16, 2017 #187 Posted August 16, 2017 Hi Hartmut Many thanks for showing the stages to build your blocks. Nice and precise, yet artful at the same time. Cheers and thanks Patrick Piet, cog and mtaylor 3 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
Angarfather Posted August 16, 2017 Author #188 Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) Thanks to Patrick and Carl 9 hours ago, cog said: Very nice work Hartmut, she is showing her future shape, and details. It won't be long before she is all dressed up and ready. Didin't know we Dutch had such colourful boots/yachts, when you look at the paintings from that period, we are wearing such a depressing dress colour Hello Carl, this colourfull design is the result of the researches which Ab Hoving and the other builders of the 1:1 Utrecht had made. I think that such wonderfull colors were usual in the baroque. Especially when the upper ten of the cityes wanted to show who they are. Some pic of the mast, the loops of the shrouds and the back and fore stays And the Heart block of the fore stay Regards Hartmut Edited August 16, 2017 by Angarfather Mirabell61, Landlubber Mike, Omega1234 and 10 others 13 Quote on the : Staatenjacht Utrech At last finished: Gianna a Pinco Genovese HMS Agamemnon
flying_dutchman2 Posted August 30, 2017 #189 Posted August 30, 2017 Hartmut, I went through your complete built and she is beautiful. With the scale you are building her you can add lots of details. I will leave some of those details out with my scale. You mentioned the colors you used on her in the beginning of your built but later on you omitted that. I like the colors you used compared to what others builders have used on their jachts. Is it possible to list them here and what color you used for what part of the ship? I would like to use these colors on my jacht. Thanks in advance. Marcus cog, Piet and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
Angarfather Posted September 2, 2017 Author #190 Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Many thanks, Mates! Marcus : I use tempara paints. Made by Lukas (Germany) Yellow Ochre light (8031) Prussian Blue (8134) Opaqe white (8007) Ivory black (8182) Made by Schmicke (Germany) sapphire blue light blue By Windsor & Newton (UK) Cobalt blue deep Best regards Hartmut Edited September 2, 2017 by Angarfather flying_dutchman2, Landlubber Mike, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote on the : Staatenjacht Utrech At last finished: Gianna a Pinco Genovese HMS Agamemnon
Piet Posted September 4, 2017 #191 Posted September 4, 2017 Beautiful work Hartmut. Cheers, mtaylor and cog 2 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
flying_dutchman2 Posted September 8, 2017 #192 Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Thank you very much for listening the colors. I will research them and will probably find them. What is your red, and a item number, if there is one. Marcus Edited September 8, 2017 by flying_dutchman2 Add mtaylor and Piet 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
Angarfather Posted January 6, 2018 Author #193 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) Hello guys, after a long time I am now back again in the forum. In the last three months there had been a lot of interesting jobs, two journeys and also time for modelling. But not enough time to post. With other words: time for modelling or time for posting. But now I will show you Utrecht today and of course some of the work steps . Some pics from the rigg and the blocks The main halliyard blocks Gaff The vang blocks Many thanks to my Admiral for sewing the sails the mainsheet Jibbhalliyard In / outhaul The anchor Regards Hartmut Edited March 10, 2018 by Angarfather Piet, Mirabell61, bdgiantman2 and 9 others 12 Quote on the : Staatenjacht Utrech At last finished: Gianna a Pinco Genovese HMS Agamemnon
Baker Posted January 7, 2018 #194 Posted January 7, 2018 Very nicely done beautiful model !! Piet and mtaylor 2 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
Mirabell61 Posted January 7, 2018 #195 Posted January 7, 2018 very nicely built model Hartmut, I like your self built blocks.... Nils Piet, mtaylor and flying_dutchman2 3 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
flying_dutchman2 Posted January 8, 2018 #196 Posted January 8, 2018 Love the details, and as Nils said, beautiful self made blocks. The sails make the boat complete. Marcus Piet 1 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
Angarfather Posted January 8, 2018 Author #197 Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) Many thanks to you guys for all the "likes" and kind words. Here are some pics of the current state of the model. The decoration figures are made of polymer clay. To make the figurehead was very fiddly. The lion of the full sized Utrecht in my eyes looks like a cartoon. But a very nice one. Iwasn't able to reproduce it in my model. Lets have a look around the pavillon Even the two water gods at the pavillion are rather strange guys than baroque gods. But,I did my very best. Best regards Hartmut Edited January 8, 2018 by Angarfather GrandpaPhil, reklein, aviaamator and 11 others 14 Quote on the : Staatenjacht Utrech At last finished: Gianna a Pinco Genovese HMS Agamemnon
amateur Posted January 8, 2018 #198 Posted January 8, 2018 That's a very nice statenjacht! one small point: given the position of your sails, the port-side leeboard should be up, the other one down (the leeside should be down, the windside up) Jan aviaamator, Angarfather and cog 3 Quote
flying_dutchman2 Posted January 10, 2018 #199 Posted January 10, 2018 Beautiful model especially in scale you built it, well done. I especially like the figures you added on the deck, it makes the model come alive. The bigger the scale the more details and you did an excellent job at that. Marcus Mirabell61, Piet and cog 3 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
Piet Posted January 10, 2018 #200 Posted January 10, 2018 Outstanding work Hartmut, a masterfully build model. Cheers, cog and Mirabell61 2 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
Mirabell61 Posted January 10, 2018 #201 Posted January 10, 2018 Wunderbare Arbeit Hartmut ! awesome Statenjacht model. lovely passengers, resp. crew.... Nils Piet and cog 2 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
ceestoorn Posted January 10, 2018 #202 Posted January 10, 2018 wounderful I love it great work cog and Piet 2 Quote
Angarfather Posted January 27, 2018 Author #203 Posted January 27, 2018 Thank you, guys for all your kind words. There are only the stern lantern and the decorations of the gun ports to make to finish Utrecht. Therefore I have started the next project, an elizabethan galleon. It may be a model of Drakes Golden Hind. How Golden Hind looked exactly is unclear. I will use some plans I did find in two old german modeling books. Okay now I will start the new build log. Cheers Hartmut Mirabell61, Baker, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote on the : Staatenjacht Utrech At last finished: Gianna a Pinco Genovese HMS Agamemnon
DSiemens Posted March 4, 2018 #204 Posted March 4, 2018 I'm coming very late to this build log but I have to say great job! I love Statenjachts they are beautiful little ships. Yours is a perfect example of their beautiful design. I bottled one some years ago and gave it away at a charity auction. One of these days I'll have to build me another one. flying_dutchman2, mtaylor and Piet 3 Quote Daniel We're ship in bottle builders, it's an occupational hazard. www.siemensbottlingco.blogspot.com http://www.bottledshipbuilder.com Current Builds: Bermuda Sloop Wood Krafters Pirate Ship Completed: 20 Gun Frigate Olympic 470 Bermuda Sloop Super Mini Queen Anne's Revenge German Cutter Mercury Santa Maria
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