mtaylor Posted August 8, 2022 #631 Posted August 8, 2022 I'd say take a sip for all of us but wouldn't want you hungover. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Kevin Kenny Posted August 8, 2022 Author #632 Posted August 8, 2022 GrandpaPhil, druxey, mtaylor and 3 others 5 1 Quote
Kevin Kenny Posted August 8, 2022 Author #633 Posted August 8, 2022 Its done. Whiskey plank installed. GrandpaPhil, No Idea, druxey and 10 others 13 Quote
druxey Posted August 8, 2022 #634 Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) Cheers! Well done, Kevin. Except that the box description should read 'its', not 'it's'. Edited August 8, 2022 by druxey mtaylor and stuglo 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
giampieroricci Posted August 8, 2022 #635 Posted August 8, 2022 great job Kevin! Too bad you hid all the work you did on the woodwork, but those are the modeller's choices! I always follow you..... druxey and mtaylor 2 Quote
Kevin Kenny Posted August 8, 2022 Author #636 Posted August 8, 2022 dvm27, James G, No Idea and 3 others 5 1 Quote
Kevin Kenny Posted August 10, 2022 Author #637 Posted August 10, 2022 Still cleaning up but very happy with the job. It could have been better. The next one will be better. next tree nails and the rudder. Paul Le Wol, No Idea, yvesvidal and 8 others 8 3 Quote
stuglo Posted August 11, 2022 #638 Posted August 11, 2022 Looking great mtaylor 1 Quote current build- Swan ,scratch on shelf,Rattlesnake, Alert semi scratch,Le Coureur,, Fubbs scratch completed: nostrum mare,victory(Corel), san felipe, sovereign of the seas, sicilian cargo boat ,royal yacht caroline, armed pinnace, charles morgan whaler, galilee boat, wappen von hamburg, la reale (Dusek), amerigo vespucci, oneida (semi scratch) diane, great harry-elizabethan galleon (semi scratch), agammemnon, hanna (scratch).19th cent. shipyard diorama (Constructo), picket boat, victory bow section
mtaylor Posted August 11, 2022 #639 Posted August 11, 2022 Beautifully planked, Kevin. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Kevin Kenny Posted August 11, 2022 Author #640 Posted August 11, 2022 Sanded, termites treated, sanded sealer, wipe on poly on with satin finish bruce d, javajohn, AnobiumPunctatum and 11 others 13 1 Quote
garyshipwright Posted August 11, 2022 #641 Posted August 11, 2022 Kevin she look's really good and the finish really bring's out planking job. Good job . Gary claybaker, mtaylor and bruce d 3 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779
TomShipModel Posted August 12, 2022 #642 Posted August 12, 2022 Well done, Kevin! Tom mtaylor 1 Quote Tom Ruggiero Director Nautical Research Guild Member Ship Model Society of New Jersey (Past President)
druxey Posted August 12, 2022 #643 Posted August 12, 2022 Nicely finished, Kevin. Well done! Termite treatment is something we northerners don't consider. claybaker, mtaylor and bruce d 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
stuglo Posted August 12, 2022 #644 Posted August 12, 2022 Her bottom is very nice mtaylor and druxey 2 Quote current build- Swan ,scratch on shelf,Rattlesnake, Alert semi scratch,Le Coureur,, Fubbs scratch completed: nostrum mare,victory(Corel), san felipe, sovereign of the seas, sicilian cargo boat ,royal yacht caroline, armed pinnace, charles morgan whaler, galilee boat, wappen von hamburg, la reale (Dusek), amerigo vespucci, oneida (semi scratch) diane, great harry-elizabethan galleon (semi scratch), agammemnon, hanna (scratch).19th cent. shipyard diorama (Constructo), picket boat, victory bow section
AJohnson Posted August 12, 2022 #645 Posted August 12, 2022 Looking really nice Kevin! 👏 mtaylor, bruce d and druxey 3 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight
claybaker Posted August 12, 2022 #646 Posted August 12, 2022 9 hours ago, druxey said: Nicely finished, Kevin. Well done! Termite treatment is something we northerners don't consider. True. I read that and thought, “God! Is that something I should be doing?!?” bruce d, druxey and mtaylor 3 Quote
AnobiumPunctatum Posted August 12, 2022 #647 Posted August 12, 2022 It's looking really nice, but a shame that you hide your beautyful framework. druxey and mtaylor 2 Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
Kevin Kenny Posted August 16, 2022 Author #648 Posted August 16, 2022 Any suggestions on how i should approach this tree nail exercise for the hull? kevin mtaylor, AJohnson and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote
AON Posted August 16, 2022 #649 Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) Looks like your off to a good start with your supplies. Here is everything I know about treenails, Trenails, Trenels or Trunnels (a couple images shifted when converted to a PDF but I think you can figure it out) Treenails - Alan O'Neill - 15MAR2022.pdf Edited August 16, 2022 by AON bruce d, mtaylor, AJohnson and 1 other 2 2 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
Kevin Kenny Posted August 16, 2022 Author #650 Posted August 16, 2022 Alan What a wonderful paper. Thank you so much, it is every thing and more that I needed to know. I will read it a few times before i start. mtaylor 1 Quote
druxey Posted August 16, 2022 #651 Posted August 16, 2022 Approach with extreme patience, Kevin! It is a lengthy exercise. Make the treenails as small as practical; so often they are clunky and far out of scale. I mark out and prick each position first so that the drill doesn't wander and mess things up. Dip te ens of the treenail material in slightly diluted white glue, push it into a hole, snip short or flush using flush cutters. Repeat. Repeat.... When complete, the surface will look knobbly (see pic), but will look great after you've sanded it down. tlevine, mtaylor, GrandpaPhil and 3 others 6 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
Kevin Kenny Posted August 16, 2022 Author #652 Posted August 16, 2022 I am under no illusions. Thanks again. druxey and mtaylor 2 Quote
Kevin Kenny Posted August 16, 2022 Author #653 Posted August 16, 2022 My rough calculation is its about 9000 individual tree nails. mtaylor, druxey, No Idea and 1 other 3 1 Quote
stuglo Posted August 16, 2022 #654 Posted August 16, 2022 I hesitate to add anything to the foregoing experts. These are models and subjective opinion has a place. I personally prefer a subtle not a "measles" appearance. Your proven expertise will, I'm sure, produce an excellent result. Might I just suggest a small, parallel, build to rest from a repetitive and possible boring few days (Reduced alertness=mistakes) mtaylor 1 Quote current build- Swan ,scratch on shelf,Rattlesnake, Alert semi scratch,Le Coureur,, Fubbs scratch completed: nostrum mare,victory(Corel), san felipe, sovereign of the seas, sicilian cargo boat ,royal yacht caroline, armed pinnace, charles morgan whaler, galilee boat, wappen von hamburg, la reale (Dusek), amerigo vespucci, oneida (semi scratch) diane, great harry-elizabethan galleon (semi scratch), agammemnon, hanna (scratch).19th cent. shipyard diorama (Constructo), picket boat, victory bow section
Kevin Kenny Posted August 18, 2022 Author #655 Posted August 18, 2022 The layout has started. 3 hours in and i had to take a break. Just over half laid out. Another 3 hours to complete the pencil location of the treenails. Then to use a point to set the starter hole. Then drill and place the treenails. stuglo, No Idea, KentM and 8 others 10 1 Quote
No Idea Posted August 19, 2022 #656 Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) Crikey Kevin - that is one hell of a lot of nails - you're going to be dreaming about nails by the time you've done that job. A nice bit of patience there though marking them all out - good luck mate 👍 Edited August 19, 2022 by No Idea Poor spelling mtaylor 1 Quote
Kevin Kenny Posted August 19, 2022 Author #657 Posted August 19, 2022 It has started. I am using the same wood as I used to plank the model so you should have to look carefully to actually see the tree nails. Just putting these few in i now realize that i am going to be making lots more treenail stock. . mtaylor, GrandpaPhil, ct mike and 2 others 5 Quote
AON Posted August 19, 2022 #658 Posted August 19, 2022 Now she looks like HMS Porcupine. 🤣 yvesvidal, mtaylor, No Idea and 2 others 5 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)
hollowneck Posted August 19, 2022 #659 Posted August 19, 2022 19 hours ago, Kevin Kenny said: 3 hours in and i had to take a break. Why? I ask?? Holy Hull, Batman! mtaylor 1 Quote Ron Director, Nautical Research Guild Secretary/Newsletter Editor, Philadelphia Ship Model Society Former Member/Secretary for the Connecticut Marine Model Society Current Build: Grace & Peace (Wyoming, 6-masted Schooner) Completed Builds: HMS Grecian, HMS Sphinx (as HMS Camilla) Ongakuka Maru, (Higaki Kaisen, It Takes A Village), Le Tigre Privateer, HMS Swan, HMS Godspeed, HMS Ardent, HMS Diana, Russian brig Mercury, Elizabethan Warship Revenge, Xebec Syf'Allah, USF Confederacy, HMS Granado, USS Brig Syren
yvesvidal Posted August 19, 2022 #660 Posted August 19, 2022 Kevin, You are very brave to try treenailing such a large hull. I prefer the copper tiles.... 😉 Yves mtaylor 1 Quote
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