rafine Posted March 23, 2013 #1 Posted March 23, 2013 Well, I've finally gotten tired of waiting for Model Expo to release Essex .As a result, I decided to at least dip a toe into the waters of the " darkside". I downloaded the Triton keel parts plan and found some wood and made the keel and false keel. The keel is boxwood and the false keel is pear. At this point, this project is an experiment for me. I have no power tools other than a Dremel. Although I've done a number of kitbashes and semi-scratch builds, I've been unwilling to try to do complete framing by hand tools alone. This will be that try. I haven't gotten wood yet or really even thought through what to use. I have no jig or build board yet. In short, when I get permission to download the full plans ( which I'm asking for here), I'll start making decisions and see where it takes me. Bob fatih79 and lb0190 2 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
AnobiumPunctatum Posted March 23, 2013 #2 Posted March 23, 2013 That looks like a very promising start to your build. Have a lot of fun. Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
Pete38 Posted March 23, 2013 #3 Posted March 23, 2013 Nice start, after seeing what you have done with the kits (bashing) this should be no problem for you. Great jog on those and looking forward to more on the your cross section Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
augie Posted March 23, 2013 #4 Posted March 23, 2013 I have been wondering what you might come up with to occupy the next few weeks while you wait for Essex. Now the answer has arrived. Best of luck in this new endeavor, Bob. I'll tag along, quietly. Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
rummy Posted March 23, 2013 #5 Posted March 23, 2013 Very nice start and welcome to the Triton build log.There are some very nice people here and one old sore head.It could be me Best Regards Larry With Age Comes Wisdom,I'm Still Waiting! Current Builds:Syren.Triton Cross section. Completed Builds: Virginia by AL King of the Mississippi by AL Constellation by AL
Remcohe Posted March 23, 2013 #6 Posted March 23, 2013 Hi Bob, I think you'll find yourself quite at home on the dark side, Remco Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. Current build HMS Kingfisher MSW 1.0 log click here
Rustyj Posted March 23, 2013 #7 Posted March 23, 2013 Hi Bob and welcome aboard. I think you will love it and I'm excited to see your build take shape. Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Paddy Posted March 23, 2013 #8 Posted March 23, 2013 Bob, good start. Looking forward to following along. Hope to be where you are in a few days. Gabek 1 1st Year Apprentice :mellow: A new member of the NRG as of 8/28/13 Work in Progress - Triton 28 Gun Frigate Cross Section
Long9Ron Posted March 23, 2013 #9 Posted March 23, 2013 Bob Welcome aboard the Triton Cross Section build. Hope you have fun with it. Ron Current Build: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section 1:48 Why is it that I always find out the best way to do something is after I have already done it the wrong way? - Me
rafine Posted March 23, 2013 Author #10 Posted March 23, 2013 Thanks to all for the warm welcome. I'm looking forward to participating with the group. Bob Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
russ Posted March 23, 2013 #11 Posted March 23, 2013 Bob: The keel looks fine. Excellent start. Russ T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
marius Posted March 23, 2013 #12 Posted March 23, 2013 Welcome ! Now I am not the new guy on the build any more. Would like to see you do it with the Dremel. marius HMS TRITON cross section marius
42rocker Posted March 23, 2013 #13 Posted March 23, 2013 Hope that you can get your hands on a jig saw or you are going to have some sore hands. Good Luck with the build and enjoy the trip.. Later 42rocker Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section
rafine Posted March 23, 2013 Author #14 Posted March 23, 2013 Thanks guys. I'm afraid no jig saw for me. It will be a jewelers saw all the way. Bob Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
mtaylor Posted March 23, 2013 #15 Posted March 23, 2013 Bob, Ditto what the others said. That keel looks great. Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
rafine Posted March 24, 2013 Author #16 Posted March 24, 2013 Thankls, Mark. How come I'm not being given access to the plans? Bob Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
russ Posted March 24, 2013 #17 Posted March 24, 2013 Bob: Joss (Matrim) probably has not seen your posts yet. Russ T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
mtaylor Posted March 24, 2013 #18 Posted March 24, 2013 Bob, Russ is right. You call also send him a PM with your request for access. Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Matrim Posted March 25, 2013 #19 Posted March 25, 2013 You are in, give me a shout if you cannot find the plans set. Well done for starting and enjoy it. Joss ...
Rustyj Posted March 26, 2013 #20 Posted March 26, 2013 You are in, give me a shout if you cannot find the plans set. Well done for starting and enjoy it. Alright Bob, You are now officially on your way to the "Dark Side" Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
rafine Posted March 26, 2013 Author #21 Posted March 26, 2013 Thanks, Joss. I hope that's the good news, Rusty. Bob Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
42rocker Posted March 26, 2013 #22 Posted March 26, 2013 Welcome and Good Luck. Later 42rocker Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section
mtaylor Posted March 26, 2013 #23 Posted March 26, 2013 Thanks, Joss. I hope that's the good news, Rusty. Bob Yeah... it's the good news... uh-huh.. yep... Rustyj 1 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Boccherini Posted April 1, 2013 #24 Posted April 1, 2013 Bob, welcome to x-section. Nice start on the keel. Cutting frames with a fret saw on this model won't be too bad. My first project had about 60 frames, all hand cut with a fret saw. You become reasonably quick after a while. Just make sure you keep the frame well supported whilst cutting, the frame may snap otherwise. Very important: cut slightly outside the lines, the extra timber will give you some wriggle room when you fair the hull. Regards, Grant.
rafine Posted April 1, 2013 Author #25 Posted April 1, 2013 Thanks, Grant. It's nice to know that it can actually be done this way. Bob Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
rafine Posted April 4, 2013 Author #26 Posted April 4, 2013 Just a brief update on where I stand. I've ordered wood from Hobbymill to do the frames and planking. At this point, my choices are to do the frames and internal planking in boxwood, The lower outer hull will be holly and the wales will be ebony. I've made no decision about the upper hull and bulwark planking yet. Nor have I made any decision about whether to plank both sides or only one. I'm sure that choice will depend on how the framing turns out --one side if it's good, both sides if it's not. While waiting for the wood, I'm practicing cutting and assembling a frame using scrap wood. Bob mtaylor 1 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
rafine Posted April 9, 2013 Author #27 Posted April 9, 2013 Two events. My wood has arrived from Hobbymill ( beautiful, as always), and I have finished assembling my practice frame. Cutting and sanding by hand on the frame was SLOW. I'm not very happy with the frame, but I can see that with more repetition, both skill and speed should improve some. I hope so. Now it's time to start building the real frames. Bob lb0190, rummy, Pete38 and 1 other 4 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Paddy Posted April 9, 2013 #28 Posted April 9, 2013 Looks to me like you have a good start on the frames Bob. 1st Year Apprentice :mellow: A new member of the NRG as of 8/28/13 Work in Progress - Triton 28 Gun Frigate Cross Section
Pete38 Posted April 9, 2013 #29 Posted April 9, 2013 I agree with Paddy frames looks good. Great start. Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
russ Posted April 9, 2013 #30 Posted April 9, 2013 Bob: The frame looks pretty good to my eye. My one piece of advice at this point is to leave a bit of meat on the frame for fairing. Not much, but give yourself a bit of wiggle room. Russ T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
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