modelshipwright Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share #301 Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) This photo shows the catheads with the 0.75 mm wide sheaves in place with boxwood axles produced with a draw plate. The sheaves were turned on a Unimat lathe. it remains to separate the two catheads and devise the mounting method. Then the actual cat heads must be carved and glued in place on the ends. Two spare sheaves are shown along with a bit of the axle material. More to follow.......... Edited May 18, 2016 by modelshipwright DARIVS ARCHITECTVS, mtaylor, gjdale and 4 others 7 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share #302 Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) The first of two cat heads to cap the end over the sheaves. More to follow.......... Edited May 19, 2016 by modelshipwright CaptainSteve, russ, NMBROOK and 5 others 8 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share #303 Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) The cat head is carved and mounted against the slots for the sheaves. More to follow......... Edited May 20, 2016 by modelshipwright BLACK VIKING, cristikc, DARIVS ARCHITECTVS and 7 others 10 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbshan Posted May 20, 2016 Share #304 Posted May 20, 2016 Mee-ow! mtaylor and gjdale 2 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 21, 2016 Share #305 Posted May 21, 2016 Bill, Would there even have been room inside for the gun crew to work any guns in those ports? BLACK VIKING 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbshan Posted May 21, 2016 Share #306 Posted May 21, 2016 In regard to the illustrations, I wonder if any are from the second iteration of the ship. I was looking at a model of the second version, with the flat transom and blue background, and that was flat across the beakhead bulkhead also, with no room for the 5th and 6th openings. Also note in the third illustration there are shields instead of cats at the bottom of the 'stack'. mtaylor 1 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share #307 Posted May 21, 2016 Bill, Would there even have been room inside for the gun crew to work any guns in those ports? That is a valid question Mark. After some considerable thought about this area and a frank discussion with an experienced modeller and trusted friend, I have decided not to include the extra two ports. Looking at the three presentations of this area, The Payne engraving, the Van de Velde sketch, and the Boston Museum painting, two out of three do not show the port. Only Van de Velde indicates that a port may have been there. As I have completed fabricating the catheads and can now see their size when held in position, I note that with the addition of a Satyr carving below them, there would be no room for a port. As well, we discussed the angle of the catheads relative to the centreline of the ship and determined that they might be at 15 degrees outward angle in order to clear the sides of the beak and allow anchor movement. With this placement, a port would be impossible as the Satyr would be in that area. I can only surmise that Van de Velde may have added it as extra detail. The good news is that as there is no original draught of the ship from that time, it is anyone's guess as to what it really looked like. Having to rely on contemporary paintings and drawings leaves me in a position to choose my own path. More to follow............. druxey and mtaylor 2 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share #308 Posted May 21, 2016 In regard to the illustrations, I wonder if any are from the second iteration of the ship. I was looking at a model of the second version, with the flat transom and blue background, and that was flat across the beakhead bulkhead also, with no room for the 5th and 6th openings. Also note in the third illustration there are shields instead of cats at the bottom of the 'stack'. Yes, I did notice that Joel. My decision as to the cats was down to my reliance, for the most part, on the Van de Velde sketch as my prime source for the carvings as well as the fact that the Boston painting is considered to be "as presented" by Pett to King Charles for approval and not necessarily as built. The Payne engraving hints at a cat head between the sailors on deck but it is not clear. So, the cats prevailed. Regards, Bill mtaylor 1 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share #309 Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) The catheads are loosely fitted to the bulkhead showing the space below that will house the Satyrs that hold them up. There is some additional detail to be added to the sides of the catheads before final mounting. More to follow........ Edited May 21, 2016 by modelshipwright DARIVS ARCHITECTVS, J11, md1400cs and 6 others 8 1 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share #310 Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) This photo shows a serpent that will be mounted on the aft side of the cathead. The two serpents mounted on the aft sides of the catheads. More to follow.............. Edited May 21, 2016 by modelshipwright mtaylor, marktiedens, CaptainSteve and 4 others 7 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share #311 Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) The catheads are mounted and next is to carve two Satyrs to be fitted underneath them. More to follow......... Edited May 21, 2016 by modelshipwright Mirabell61, marktiedens, realworkingsailor and 8 others 10 1 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted May 21, 2016 Share #312 Posted May 21, 2016 Bill, Superb work !!! MIchael mtaylor 1 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbshan Posted May 21, 2016 Share #313 Posted May 21, 2016 Obviously no room for any ports there. I hope you can keep the satyrs away from the ladies you've put on already. They have quite a reputation. I suspect if an artist had room to fill he would put something there, and if he ran out of room might leave off something that was actually there. SOS has so many carvings, one more or less probably wouldn't have been noticed, until somebody actually starts looking for them. SawdustDave, druxey and mtaylor 3 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share #314 Posted May 22, 2016 Thanks to everyone who dropped by. You are probably right Joel, nobody will notice when viewing so many carvings. My goal is to get her as close as possible to how the contemporary artists of the day viewed her. Bill mtaylor, rek and CaptainSteve 3 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted May 22, 2016 Share #315 Posted May 22, 2016 Beautiful job on the cat heads Bill. Another example of your dedication to accuracy and detail that truly sets your work apart from all others. I must say, since your build log was my sole inspiration to attempt this special ship over a year ago, I only regret that I wasn't smart enough to completely follow each and every step of your log without deviation.... (would have saved me a lot of re-working the errors created by the old plans I tried to use)So now that you've gone back to work on her, I have this great resource for making important improvements to my own humble efforts.Can't thank you enough my friend. CaptainSteve 1 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share #316 Posted May 22, 2016 Beautiful job on the cat heads Bill. Another example of your dedication to accuracy and detail that truly sets your work apart from all others. I must say, since your build log was my sole inspiration to attempt this special ship over a year ago, I only regret that I wasn't smart enough to completely follow each and every step of your log without deviation.... (would have saved me a lot of re-working the errors created by the old plans I tried to use) So now that you've gone back to work on her, I have this great resource for making important improvements to my own humble efforts. Can't thank you enough my friend. Hey Dave, there is no one definitive answer as to how a model of the Sovereign should look. I have seen many representations of her in my travels and on the Internet and can say that they are all different. It is up to the modeller to determine what makes them happy with their build and you should be proud and happy with yours. Thanks for your comments. Regards, Bill SawdustDave, mtaylor and CaptainSteve 3 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted May 22, 2016 Share #317 Posted May 22, 2016 Hey Dave, there is no one definitive answer as to how a model of the Sovereign should look. I have seen many representations of her in my travels and on the Internet and can say that they are all different. It is up to the modeller to determine what makes them happy with their build and you should be proud and happy with yours. Thanks for your comments. Regards, Bill Guess that is what brings us all to love this unique form of art, huh Bill? CaptainSteve, modelshipwright and mtaylor 3 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share #318 Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) In order to gauge the size of the Satyr carvings, I decided to prepare the side panels of the beak including capping the sides with a boxwood rail. This required bending the cap to the curve of the side with a brass tip on a soldering gun. Soaking the strip and repeatedly coaxing the wood to shape on the form shown at the top of the picture did the trick It is now glued in place and clamped. More to follow.......... Edited May 23, 2016 by modelshipwright CaptainSteve, paulsutcliffe, mtaylor and 8 others 11 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share #319 Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) This photo shows a boxwood trim piece being glued to the bottom edge of the port beak head side panel. The starboard panel and trim piece is shown above it. More to follow.......... Edited May 25, 2016 by modelshipwright WBlakeny, CaptainSteve, cristikc and 7 others 10 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share #320 Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) After a few days of adjusting and fitting the bulwarks of the beak head, they are now assembled on the ship. The following photos show this progress. Now I have a clear idea of the size the Satyrs must be in order to support the catheads and rest hooves on the rail of the bulwarks. There is additional work to be done with added bits and pieces at the front of the beak. More to follow....... Edited June 1, 2016 by modelshipwright Kusawa2000, WBlakeny, janos and 11 others 13 1 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted June 1, 2016 Share #321 Posted June 1, 2016 Nice progress and good photos, Bill! Am I seeing this correctly, or is it an optical illusion: is the upper part of the beakhead straight and the lower part slightly curved as seen from above? mtaylor 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted June 1, 2016 Share #322 Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) Really love the slight radius in the bulkheads Bill. Can you show a direct overhead shot of the beak head at this point? Edited June 1, 2016 by SawdustDave CaptainSteve and mtaylor 2 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share #323 Posted June 1, 2016 Nice progress and good photos, Bill! Am I seeing this correctly, or is it an optical illusion: is the upper part of the beakhead straight and the lower part slightly curved as seen from above? Both surfaces are very slightly curved. Must be the way the picture was taken. Bill CaptainSteve, WackoWolf and mtaylor 3 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted June 1, 2016 Share #324 Posted June 1, 2016 Nice progress and good photos, Bill! Am I seeing this correctly, or is it an optical illusion: is the upper part of the beakhead straight and the lower part slightly curved as seen from above?I can see what you mean..... optical error is a funny thing. Bill, been away from this marvellous log for a while. As usual everything is just superb. I agree that there wouldn't be room for the extra 2 guns (as Mark has mentioned). I also agree with Lawrence when he said that this makes your Sovereign yours by these tiny difference. Happymodelling and Havagooday my friend Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share #325 Posted June 2, 2016 (edited) Thanks to everyone for dropping by and for your encouraging comments. Here is a top view of the beak that shows the slight curvature of the bulwarks. More to follow........ Edited June 2, 2016 by modelshipwright Kusawa2000, mtaylor, druxey and 11 others 14 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusawa2000 Posted June 2, 2016 Share #326 Posted June 2, 2016 Bill: What a different the 2 bulkheads make.... wow. I can also appreciate the work that goes into those 2 pieces.. Congrats on the progress! Mike Draper mtaylor 1 Quote Mike Draper Whitehorse, Yukon Canada Member, Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted June 3, 2016 Share #327 Posted June 3, 2016 Bill: What a different the 2 bulkheads make.... wow. I can also appreciate the work that goes into those 2 pieces.. Congrats on the progress! Mike Draper G'day Bill Mike has said it all. Congratulations on what must have been a difficult process. Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelshipwright Posted June 4, 2016 Author Share #328 Posted June 4, 2016 (edited) The beak head with a little more finishing completed. More to follow...... Edited June 4, 2016 by modelshipwright realworkingsailor, J11, cristikc and 10 others 13 Quote Mediocrity will never do. You are capable of something better.” ― Gordon B. Hinckley Current build: Sovereign of the Seas 1637 My Book: Carving Ornamentation for Ship Models Website: Http://carvingbook.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted June 4, 2016 Share #329 Posted June 4, 2016 Beautiful, just beautiful! Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 4, 2016 Share #330 Posted June 4, 2016 Beautiful work highlighted with beautiful photography. Sweet. CaptainSteve 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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