Peter Bloemendaal Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share #151 Posted September 25, 2018 I have a question. In the manual, one of the instructions explains to 'lash the corresponding hearts with 0.008" tan rigging line'. These lashings are everywhere in the model. I have studied these photo's but I can't figure out where to start and end these lines and how they are tied together. I can't see any half knots or glued ends. I feel a bit stupid, but can anyone explain how these are done so neatly. Cheers, Peter alde 1 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rogers Posted September 25, 2018 Share #152 Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) I learned by experience/hard way that BEFORE you attach the Bowspirit run your running rigging lines through the Fairlead and leave for further rigging later. It is a real chore if you wait....trust me. Note in your photo where the Fairlead sits, now imagine. with regard to your question on Hearts I served the line and tied a seize to it for show. Edited September 25, 2018 by Jim Rogers abelson 1 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alde Posted September 25, 2018 Share #153 Posted September 25, 2018 She looks absolutely amazing Peter. Peter Bloemendaal 1 Quote The heart is happiest when the head and the hands work together. Al Current Builds: HMS Halifax 1/48 POF Lumberyard Kit Model Shipways Glad Tidings Acoustic Guitar Build FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share #154 Posted September 25, 2018 Thanks Al. Hi Jim, The Bowsprit assembly is already glued on so it's too late for your tip. I did dry test the fairlead holes by putting the correct size lines through to ensure they are large enough. Can you show me a photo how you did the hearts, I can't quite picture it. I'm still curious how Chuck made the rigging of his hearts look so tidy. BTW, I like your music choice, I have been playing that song "a salty dog" from Procol Harum into double digits now and it started me looking for more on YouTube.....lol Cheers, Peter Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share #155 Posted September 25, 2018 Hi All, Just would like to share a bit of a brain fart I had over the weekend. As I was doing work on the bowsprit I felt like mixing it up a bit and make a start on the main masts. Well, first step is a no brainer - taper the mast. So got the plan out, measured the bottom, 8mm (tick), the top 5mm (tick) added a bit of length for the bit in the drill chuck and tenon and cut two lengths, one for the main and one for the fore mast. Next few hours I was creating dust sanding away, and after the sanding spent a fair bit of time carefully cutting the tenons to fit them on the ship. I also made some photo's for the forum. I was pretty chuffed with myself. Finally, after dinner I decided to go back in the shed for a bit and read the manual to familiarize myself with the next steps. After reading step 1, went back inside for the day. The top 5mm of the masts are the squared sizes. the masts barely need to be tapered at all... After the dust settled (pun intended) I considered it as a very valuable afternoon of modelling, I learned a big lesson (not to get too cocky) without breaking anything or using a part of the kit that is difficult to replace. Cheers, Peter Gahm, abelson, JpR62 and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted September 25, 2018 Share #156 Posted September 25, 2018 Hmm, learning by doing .....oh well, it could had been worse, like knocking the Syren to the floor....😎 JpR62 and Peter Bloemendaal 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rogers Posted September 26, 2018 Share #157 Posted September 26, 2018 On 9/24/2018 at 9:56 PM, Peter Bloemendaal said: Thanks Al. Hi Jim, The Bowsprit assembly is already glued on so it's too late for your tip. I did dry test the fairlead holes by putting the correct size lines through to ensure they are large enough. Can you show me a photo how you did the hearts, I can't quite picture it. I'm still curious how Chuck made the rigging of his hearts look so tidy. BTW, I like your music choice, I have been playing that song "a salty dog" from Procol Harum into double digits now and it started me looking for more on YouTube.....lol Cheers, Peter Here are three photos. First two show the heart on my Syren Serving Machine. I strop the heart in whilst serving the line. The last shows the served heart on my Domonoff server with two seizings. Hope this helps, might not be an accurate way of doing hearts but I like the clean look it gives. JpR62 and egkb 2 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share #158 Posted September 26, 2018 Thanks Jim, That explains your comment perfectly now. It also explain why I didn't get it. My question was more related to the 0.008" tan line that lashed the two hearts together. I couldn't figure out where/how chuck had hidden the start and end of that line. I did the two bobstays last night and I think I figured it out. Or at least I have a result that I am reasonably happy with. Cheers, Peter Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rogers Posted September 27, 2018 Share #159 Posted September 27, 2018 I usually seize the .008 to the top heart then run it through the bottom heart at least 4 times. I then take a toothpick and a small dab of CA to hold in place. Once it is set I seize the bitter end to the line running between the hearts. JesseLee and Peter Bloemendaal 2 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share #160 Posted October 2, 2018 Thanks for the previous likes everyone. I have finished the bowsprit assembly including the rigging so I would like to share that milestone with just a few photo's. Next I will make a start on the masts. Cheers, Peter JpR62, Gahm, smarra and 8 others 11 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share #161 Posted October 9, 2018 Thanks for the 'likes' again everyone. Made a start on the lower masts. They make a great change on the overall look of the ship. Still have to add a few bits and pieces to complete them but I thought it is worth sharing a few photo's. I thinks I am in luck with how they fit in the holes on the deck. I made the tenons a bit longer and gave them a snug fit. Then I rotated the masts to a position where the tilt angle was just about right. I marked the positions and started building up the mast assemblies. So when Gluing time comes in the distant future it doesn't look like I will need a big setup for the positioning of the masts (fingers crossed). Here a some photo's. Cheers, Peter. Ryland Craze, Shipyard sid, Nirvana and 12 others 15 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rogers Posted October 9, 2018 Share #162 Posted October 9, 2018 Peter she is looking great. Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share #163 Posted October 9, 2018 Thanks Jim, I certainly am enjoying this build. Cheers, Peter. Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share #164 Posted October 17, 2018 A little bit more progress. The two masts are painted and I made some inroads with the mast tops. I let the photo's do the talking. Cheers, Peter Ryland Craze, paulsutcliffe, glennreader and 9 others 12 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share #165 Posted November 1, 2018 Thanks for all the likes everyone. Time for another update. I have been progressing nicely without any dramas (touch wood...lol). I have been building up the masts up to the point where I have to add all the blocks. Next will be gluing them into the hull. That will be a milestone and definitely a task I will take my time with. I plan not to use a jig but I will likely cover a fair distance running around the model to make sure they line up while the glue sets. I also made a start on the chain plate assemblies (so I can multitask after all, didn't think I had it in me....lol). I haven't put them on the channels yet. There are a few photo's to get through so better get on with it.... Cheers, Peter smarra, Dutchman, Papa and 13 others 16 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESSIS Posted November 1, 2018 Share #166 Posted November 1, 2018 Well done! Have you made the chainplates by yourself or did you bought the pieces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahm Posted November 1, 2018 Share #167 Posted November 1, 2018 Great progress, Peter! She is a real beauty! Thomas Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share #168 Posted November 1, 2018 Thanks Thomas, Hi Messis, I made the chain plates with the 28 gauge wire supplied in the kit. I blackened sections of it first and made a jig (just different sized nails at the correct distances). It's all very well explained in the instructions. The second last photo is trying to show the jig and some of the nail locations. Peter Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESSIS Posted November 2, 2018 Share #169 Posted November 2, 2018 Thank you Peter.... outstanting work. Such details explained in the instr. means you got a great kit there. I didnt knew Shipway kits are so well made! Never had one since now, but looking at your work it does help Model Shipways to sell me a kit or two 😍 How did you blackened? Was it Birchwood Casey Brass Black? Did it cured enought so you could bend the wire without damaging the blackened surface? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share #170 Posted November 3, 2018 Hi Messis, The quality of the instructions was one of the reasons I chose the Syren (amongst others of course...). I do recommend model shipways kits (not sure if I qualify with a sample size of 1...lol). I also don't seem to have a lot of trouble with the wood quality as some others mention in their logs a bit. Not sure why, but most of my spares still sit in the laser cut sheets. As for the blackening, I used the instructions on this website: http://www.modelboatyard.com/blackening.html and bought the following solution from an aussie website: http://www.watsonbrass.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=30&products_id=223&zenid=b7caed66653398c47a36f74d11d3797b I haven't had trouble bending the wire at all (and sometimes I bend them a lot!!). They can get a bit shiny but I don't mind it as long it keeps it's metal look. Hope this helps. Cheers, Peter el cid and JpR62 2 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESSIS Posted November 3, 2018 Share #171 Posted November 3, 2018 Peter that was very nice of you giving such a detailed answer! Thank you very much you have been very helpfull. You said "most of my spares still sit in the laser cut sheets." Does this mean you bought all wooden laser cut sheets twiece? Or the kit has in it spare parts? Christos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share #172 Posted November 3, 2018 Hi Christos, The kit comes with some extras in the laser cut sheets. Especially with delicate or high volume small parts. Peter. Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESSIS Posted November 3, 2018 Share #173 Posted November 3, 2018 I see Peter. Christos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share #174 Posted November 8, 2018 Thanks for all the likes again everyone. Well the jeer blocks, slings and lower lift blocks are attached to the masts, the masts are glued into the hull and the chain plates are attached to the hull as well. Just a few photo's of the very simple setup I used to line up the masts and of the components mentioned above. I did notice on the close-up photo's that my netting has turned out very sloppy. Not too happy with that in hindsight but I am not keen pulling that apart and starting again. I'll learn from it for the next one (hopefully...). Looks like rigging is next... Cheers, Peter glennreader, el cid, Dubz and 11 others 14 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted November 10, 2018 Share #175 Posted November 10, 2018 looking good! Peter Bloemendaal 1 Quote currently: master korabel Schooner Polotsk finished: the Swift 1805, the Lady Nelson on the shelf: US Brig Syren, Le Renard and the Hermione Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted November 11, 2018 Share #176 Posted November 11, 2018 Very nice progress, she looks great. Peter Bloemendaal 1 Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share #177 Posted November 26, 2018 Thanks for the likes again everyone. The chain plates have been attached to the hull and the rigging is underway. I don't have a lot of problems, disasters or major successes to report. I just seem to plod along and follow the instructions to the letter. Sometimes I feel it makes for a bit of a boring log. Even the processes are mainly fingers, scalpel, scissors, glue and paint so no extra hand to make photo's while doing it....lol (and the Labradors aren't much of a help). I always admire the modellers that go off track and do their own thing, create new build processes or even scratch build, but that's not me I'm afraid....(yet). Enough dribble, here are some photo's to show my progress. Dutchman, Tigersteve, JesseLee and 11 others 14 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted November 26, 2018 Share #178 Posted November 26, 2018 Real nice and good look with the rigging 😊 Svein.erik Dutchman and Peter Bloemendaal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted November 26, 2018 Share #179 Posted November 26, 2018 Not boring to me! The pictures and progress are great! Sail on! Peter Bloemendaal 1 Quote currently: master korabel Schooner Polotsk finished: the Swift 1805, the Lady Nelson on the shelf: US Brig Syren, Le Renard and the Hermione Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share #180 Posted December 31, 2018 Thanks Sven & Dutchman and thanks for all the likes. I have been a bit quiet for a little while. I noticed I dropped a bit in motivation so took a few weeks break from modelling. Luckily it didn't last long... I think I'm about halfway through the standing rigging so I thought it be a good time for a small update. I also would like to wish everyone a Happy and prosperous New Year (I got the happy bit sorted already because my first grandson was born yesterday 👍.) Cheers, Peter smarra, Javlin, HIPEXEC and 11 others 14 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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