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Hello Johann,

 

thank you for the complement and all others for there likes.

 

Yes the holes are drilled in on the model and then I glued the copper bolts in with CA glue and filed them flush.

Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Hello Aviaamator,

 

at the rudder the pins where soldered just into the 90° bent of the arms 

 

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and for the brace I bent a short piece of brass to an U and soldered it to the arms. Then I bored a hole, slightly larger then the pin, in it and ready. I hope that this was a help for you, even with my not so good english :(

 

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Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Hello,

 

today I finished the lower counter. 

 

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The only thing left here, is to cut the mortise for the gun port lid into the rail. 

 

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Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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I'm glad I found your build before you are finished, or nearing the end as I did last time, Siggi. You didn't loose your touch after a year ... I think you even got better! I will enjoy your build from the side line

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
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Hello Doris, Carl and Amalio

 

and many thanks for your comments and all others for there likes. That encourages my efforts to build this model even better.

Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Siggi,

the planking of your model ist just perfect ! (spitzenmässig )

I took this opportunity in looking back to the early stages of your hull-building and am mighty impressed of your build and your skills.....

 

Nils

 

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Your craftsmanship is perfect, what a fantastic job of planking the whales and the rest of the hull. I have to ask what type of wood did you use between the bulkheads and how did you add the filler?

 

 

Cheers, Guy
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most excellent planking!

John

 

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There is the frame of thought that supposes that, if five people all build the same model to the same plans - then you are very likely to see five very different models.

 

While I believe that to be true, Sigi, I think your discernment brings you closest to the truth; a fantastic build in subject, form, material and execution.  For me, it’s all about the lines, and your lines look true to me.

We are all works in progress, all of the time.

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Hello,

 

after I had to do some other things then shipbuilding, here now an update. I painted the under water ship.

 

Before I go on and build the upper part of the outside ship ready, I must build in the gun deck and made the inner walls smooth. But then the slots for the over head stand will get lost. So I painted it now.

 

In the first picture I made the water line horizontal.

 

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Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Hello Steve,

 

you could ask questions and I should answer them with my poor english :(

 

Ok, it was a 1,5 cm broad mink hair brush. Hopefully that this is the right term for it. But I made several layers, I think 4, of diluted paint. But even then you could see different shades. Especially in the yellow areas. That would be a real challenge above the wales with all the gun ports and riggols.

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Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Whatever inconsistencies there may be in color tone, they don’t show in the photographs.  Though these are diluted wash coats, I would think the color would even out after a certain number of applications.  If not four wash coats, maybe 6?  Perhaps, also, making up a large enough batch of diluted paint to do two to three wash coats from the same batch, might improve the consistency of the color.

We are all works in progress, all of the time.

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Hello Hubac's Historian,

 

it is't so bad, but you see different shades in the color. But even when you diluted the color, in the corners the color build up piles. So you have to stop it someone. I will let the ship now dry for a week and see then what to do next. I think, when I'm ready with the antic finish ore aging it a little, you would't see it no more. At least, I think that the original ships where not so clean painted then our models today. 

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Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Yes, I can see that aspect of your dillema, now - the accumulation of color in corners and how that would be especially apparent around the rigols, for example.  It seems to me that the antique wash coat will help a great deal with that issue, and I like that you will “dirty” her up a bit, as anything that goes into the sea does not remain pristine for long.

We are all works in progress, all of the time.

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Hello,

 

thank you all for your kind words and likes. 

 

During the paint on my ship is drying, I went to Hamburg and visiting the „Maritimes Museum Hamburg“. There I saw something all of you with the problem, where to store all these models, would be interested. Next we build all smaller models. These are may be 3-5 cm long!

 

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Or if there is space enough, a diorama. This one is from Helgoland in the 19. century. The ships are not really larger then the one before.

 

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Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Hello,

 

because we have here the best weather since years, I haven't been much in the basement at work, but more in the garden or at the house.

 

I did a lot of painting and dirt finishing the last weeks. So the ship has now a vintage look. ;)

 

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Yesterday I started to remove the old false gun deck and build a new one from 0,8 mm plywood. That looks now much better. 

 

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I thought that I would first build the gun deck mostly ready, before I start to build the outer surface of the ship. So that I would't damage so much there when diving into the ship.

Interesting in this case is, that the ships plan and the plan of the gun deck are not fit in all parts together. So I stay with the ships plan.

 

 

Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Hi Siggi,

 

the Tiger looks great, wonderful the figurehead, the lines of the ship, and now your new deck !

I also like the small self cast cubic lead weights you made....

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Hello,

 

thank you Nils for your kind words and all others for there likes, they are very appreciated.

 

Today only a small update, I build the gratings for the hatches. After such a long time I build them the last time, I had to think a lot how to do it. But at least I got it.

 

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Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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Hello,

 

for the internal works, I managed to get the old team from the Dragon again to work. And I think they did a good job.

 

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With the hatchway to the bread room I have a problem. How was it made? All other hatchways have a rim, so that water would't run in, but not this one. See also the original plan. Was it closed with solid lid, or a grating? 

 

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At least the whole ship with its masts. In the foreground are laying the planks for the gun deck. 

 

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Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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The scuttle (rather than hatchway) to the bread room was a lid in two layers. The top layer is the thickness of the deck plank, then a thinner lower layer running crossways and narrower all round, providing the lip. There are two ringbolts on opposite diagonal corners for lifting the lid.

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Thank you Druxey, 

 

then I could make it even with the deck. At the plan for the 1745 establishment they have two scuttles, one larger so as you describe and one as for the ladys hole to the left.

Regards,

Siggi

 

Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747)

Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build
HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build

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