mtdoramike Posted October 21, 2019 Share #1 Posted October 21, 2019 I have an opportunity to pick up an orphaned Dumas Typhoon mahogany runabout for the cost of shipping from a fellow builder, who received it as well but isn't interested in building it. he says he things all the parts are there, but who knows, it's a shot in the dark and a bit of a gamble. But I tend to be my own worst enemy at times and a really glutton for punishment. So, we'll see how it goes. But this is one of those kits I would LOVE to build. I had planned to retire from modeling with maybe an occasional small build here and there, but since heart surgery they have been finding me like stray puppies following me home from school. J11, GrandpaPhil, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted October 21, 2019 Share #2 Posted October 21, 2019 Goodness, is there a contest for most adopted build logs ;-)? Looking forward to seeing how this one turns out as well! popeye the sailor and Elijah 2 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted October 22, 2019 Tell me about it, sometimes I question my sanity as well, especially when the initial builder does such a poor job and try and salvage the unsalvageable. mike popeye the sailor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted October 24, 2019 Here is what I received in the mail regarding the Typhoon kit. First off, the kit is huge, the shipping on it was $48.50, so remember this when you want to purchase an already built model. The box is quite water damaged with a little mildewing, but the contents seems to have been spared for the most part. The plans are pretty much toast because of getting wet, the ink smeared quite badly. No biggie, I can order new plans from Dumas for about $25.00. BLACK VIKING, JeffT, GrandpaPhil and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted October 24, 2019 Share #5 Posted October 24, 2019 makes into a lovely looking build mtdoramike, CDW, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share #6 Posted October 26, 2019 I ordered a new set of plans, which were $27.00 total shipped from Dumas. I separated all of the building materials and ditched the box since it suffered quite a bit of water damage and shown signs of mold and mildew. I also took a solution of mild soap, bleach and water and wiped down the blonde wood sheets just in case of any mold then clamped them down to try and keep any warping to a minimum. Everything looks good and dry. popeye the sailor, CDW and BLACK VIKING 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted October 26, 2019 Share #7 Posted October 26, 2019 Really looking forward to this one Mike. popeye the sailor 1 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share #8 Posted October 27, 2019 Hey CD, don't you have a Typhoon kit? This will be an interesting build for sure. popeye the sailor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted October 27, 2019 Share #9 Posted October 27, 2019 36 minutes ago, mtdoramike said: Hey CD, don't you have a Typhoon kit? This will be an interesting build for sure. Yes Sir, I sure do have one. I am certain you will be an extraordinary teacher for me, too. 🙂 popeye the sailor 1 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share #10 Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) I believe this Typhoon kit is a very early kit to the point that who ever owned this kit originally made numerous and I mean numerous addendums and changes to the instruction manual, way more so than a normal builder would do or would have done. You can see a representation of this on a few of the pages that I attached. This observation is going to make this building not only more of a challenge than anticipated, but a hell of a thrill as well. I'm giddy just thinking about. So this is going to require a lot more forethought than usual. I sure wish the plans weren't smeared because I would have loved to see the changes and I'm sure there were since there was red ink in several places on the plans. Edited October 28, 2019 by mtdoramike popeye the sailor, Kevin and CDW 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted October 28, 2019 Share #11 Posted October 28, 2019 4 hours ago, mtdoramike said: I believe this Typhoon kit is a very early kit to the point that who ever owned this kit originally made numerous and I mean numerous addendums and changes to the instruction manual, way more so than a normal builder would do or would have done. You can see a representation of this on a few of the pages that I attached. This observation is going to make this building not only more of a challenge than anticipated, but a hell of a thrill as well. I'm giddy just thinking about. So this is going to require a lot more forethought than usual. I sure wish the plans weren't smeared because I would have loved to see the changes and I'm sure there were since there was red ink in several places on the plans. It could be an early prototype before general release, i change things on my builds but never make a note of it BLACK VIKING and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share #12 Posted October 28, 2019 Yeah, when I saw all those red making all over the instructions, it gave me flash backs of my old school days. I had some home work that looked worse than that. popeye the sailor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share #13 Posted October 31, 2019 I might go ahead and start the building process of the Typhoon as my next project since I have someone interested in it. I started removing the hull frames, keel from the trees this afternoon and boy what a PITA that was. It seems the die cutters must have been quite dull because I had to cut out and score around each piece with an xacto knife quite deeply just to keep from breaking the parts. It reminded me of those old printed on wood kits that you literally had to cut out with a knife or scroll saw. popeye the sailor, CDW and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted October 31, 2019 Share #14 Posted October 31, 2019 I built an RC model plane like that last year. What a hassle. I feel for ya' popeye the sailor 1 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share #15 Posted November 2, 2019 I received the new plans and the instruction booklet from Dumas yesterday and upon reviewing both of the instructions, I found that in the new version, some of the change recommendations indicated in the old instruction manual were made in the new version, but not all of them. I'm going to use both of the instruction manuals during the construction process to see what differences if any the change suggestions would make to the build. Landlubber Mike, JeffT and Kevin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share #16 Posted November 7, 2019 I started putting the hull frames together. I made sure to label and number each piece before removing it from their trees. CDW, popeye the sailor, hexnut and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share #17 Posted November 7, 2019 Here is a pic of the plan showing the boat, it's actually to scale at 42". That's a pretty fair sized boat. GrandpaPhil, CDW, Landlubber Mike and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share #18 Posted November 8, 2019 I started putting the frames together yesterday. Landlubber Mike, CDW, hexnut and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share #19 Posted November 9, 2019 I got the two halves together this afternoon and had my fingers crossed that there was no warping or twisting and there wasn't so I dodged that bullet JeffT, hexnut, popeye the sailor and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted November 9, 2019 Share #20 Posted November 9, 2019 Mike Which are you using, wood glue or epoxy to build your model? From what you said, I'm guessing you've had occasions where warping/twisting happened after gluing the two halves together. Any tips on how to prevent a warp or twist? popeye the sailor 1 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share #21 Posted November 10, 2019 I'm using a Tite Bond wood glue interior/exterior use for the framing rather than 5 minute epoxy or super glue (Star Bond) for the purpose of set time which is slower, but yet easier to cut if I have to ease pressure on a few pieces if I see a twist or warp. Now once I have the frame halves together, I will use the 48" building board to fashion a keel holder/clamp to place the keel in while I start planking it in case I can't get back to it for a few days. Here in Florida it can get quite humid and even leaving a straight keel and frames to it's own devices for only a few days can develop a warp and even a twist until you at least get a portion of the hull planked. The interior of the hull will be resined with epoxy resin and cloth where I can get to it once the hull is planked. CDW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share #22 Posted November 10, 2019 I have the keel and substructure all mounted to the building board. Retired guy, Ryland Craze, CDW and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffT Posted November 11, 2019 Share #23 Posted November 11, 2019 This is an interesting model. Looking forward to seeing it come together. CDW 1 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share #24 Posted November 11, 2019 I would agree that it is an interesting build, but if I were going to keep this model for myself, I would do some bashing and modify it from it's original design. I'm not a fan of the pointed bow and stern, to me it looks to much like a canoe. I would remove the last 4 or so frames, bob it off in the back like the run abouts and make a decent stern and that might be an option since I actually paid nothing for the kit, only the shipping cost to me. I haven't started the planking yet. JeffT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share #25 Posted November 14, 2019 I have added a couple of stringers to the top of the boat. Also it was brought to my attention that on this particular model, there is a trap door on the bottom of the rear stern to access the rudder shaft as well as the rudder servo. I'm not liking that setup, but unsure how to change it without having to make major changes to the stern sections in order to be able to access all of this from the top. GrandpaPhil and CDW 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share #26 Posted November 14, 2019 I got the seat cushions all cut out and trimmed. I received the mini cutting saw blades from China since I couldn't find any in the US. I tried an xacto knife last time and it wasn't cutting it, no pun intended. GrandpaPhil, CDW, Retired guy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share #27 Posted November 19, 2019 I have the seats all made up and test fitted with the side panels to make sure of fit and finish, and it looks good to me. Now I have to remove them and prep the seats and side panels for painting and here is where the rub comes in. The instructions call for green paint for the seats as well as the anti fouling paint for the hull, I dislike green so this presents a bit of a dilemma. Now if I were a purist, which I'm not, I would go strictly by the traditional colors, but I may deviate from the traditional a little here. My wife hates to send me to get paint, especially a specific color paint because she never know what I will bring back. She has often said, if they sold plaid in a can, I would so up with it instead white. GrandpaPhil, CDW, Landlubber Mike and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted November 19, 2019 Share #28 Posted November 19, 2019 That looks really nice, Mike. mtdoramike 1 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share #29 Posted November 20, 2019 Thanks CD, this is the first one that I have built that requires you to install the seats and side panels BEFORE the planking. CDW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share #30 Posted November 20, 2019 OK, this is as close to green as I'm going to go, like, love it or hate it. The paint color is called Satin Sea Glass. gsdpic, CDW, Duanelaker and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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