realworkingsailor Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share #541 Posted May 23, 2013 Ben... Haven't tried that.... Yet... Hmmm...... Popeye.... Hobby shop... If you don't have a model train store, try someone who deals with RC stuff... Andy popeye the sailor 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted May 23, 2013 Share #542 Posted May 23, 2013 Well, well - we have a mechanical genius in our midst! Nice going, Andy! John realworkingsailor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted May 23, 2013 Share #543 Posted May 23, 2013 I'll look into it Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted May 23, 2013 Share #544 Posted May 23, 2013 very clever Andy.... you're going to put some people out of business Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted May 23, 2013 Share #545 Posted May 23, 2013 very clever Andy.... you're going to put some people out of business Definitely have to agree!! Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share #546 Posted May 24, 2013 Not my original intention... And I firmly believe that when it comes to these sorts of things, I usually only get lucky once... So mass production is out of the question... Although I did PM Robbyn something that might pass for instructions, I may have her scared off making her own as I haven't heard back as yet... Andy mtaylor and augie 2 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bummer! Posted May 24, 2013 Share #547 Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Nice Andy... If you find some way to attach a hook to one end you can strop blocks as well... As I'm no engineer I have to ask if there is a specific reason why you spaced the crank axle and the tube with the rope with a gear? Edited May 24, 2013 by Seasick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickmil Posted May 24, 2013 Share #548 Posted May 24, 2013 That's a great serving machine. Your mizzen shrouds look awesome. I will definitely be revisiting my serving machine and applying your ideas as mine is a PITA to use. Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara Current: I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday" - John Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted May 24, 2013 Share #549 Posted May 24, 2013 Nice Andy... If you find some way to attach a hook to one end you can strop blocks as well... As I'm no engineer I have to ask if there is a specific reason why you spaced the crank axle and the tube with the rope with a gear? Because both ends of the rope should turn in the same direction (and in the same rotation speed). Not usiong a gear and attatchinhg the crank on the 'rope-holding tube' itself will cause the rope to twist. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted May 24, 2013 Share #550 Posted May 24, 2013 Andy how much of the shroud is served - is it just down to the catharpins Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted May 24, 2013 Share #551 Posted May 24, 2013 Not scared away Andy, I am heading back to Nebraska for the Memorial weekend So on Saturday I will be at model train store. Taking my list with me. Thank you so much for the help! realworkingsailor 1 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bummer! Posted May 24, 2013 Share #552 Posted May 24, 2013 Because both ends of the rope should turn in the same direction (and in the same rotation speed). Not usiong a gear and attatchinhg the crank on the 'rope-holding tube' itself will cause the rope to twist. Jan No, I mean the gear between the handle and the rope-tube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share #553 Posted May 24, 2013 Eric, the spacing was needed because of the size of the gears. they where the only ones the hobby shop had on hand, so to avoid rapping my knuckles on the spindle I needed to add a bit of spacing. Larger gears would eliminate the need for the idler gear. Kevin, according to TFFM 4: The middle quarter of a pair of shrouds is to be served. (for example, my mizzen shrouds are approximately 15 cm, x2 means 30cm total length, so a quarter of that is 7.5 cm). Also on the fore and main masts, the leading shroud is supposed to be served its entire length, but whether I do that or not is still up for debate. Robbyn... ok... I wasn't sure, have a nice trip and good luck at the hobby shop. Patrick, thank you very much for the compliment, let me know if you want my more complete instructions Anyway.. I hoped to have more done today, but a phone call first thing this morning (not work BTW) had me dashing up north... seems our lake rose 2 feet overnight and a few things where in great peril of drifting away, namely the dock boards, and needed to be rescued. We got off pretty lucky... a few people at the south end of the lake are going to have problems.. they left their boats on mooring lines a bit too short... and as the water rose... well... the lines got tight and well... they're now the proud owners of outboard submarines.... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted May 25, 2013 Share #554 Posted May 25, 2013 (edited) .......you mean like the guy in California, who burried caddys nose first in the sand? hee....hee..........and he called it art Edited May 25, 2013 by popeye the sailor Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bummer! Posted May 25, 2013 Share #555 Posted May 25, 2013 OK Andy, when you get the time could you PM me the instructions? It's a great little machine that I will need soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted May 25, 2013 Share #556 Posted May 25, 2013 Hi Andy, I'd like the instructions as well! Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted May 25, 2013 Share #557 Posted May 25, 2013 And me Andy, that's one super set-up, PLEEEEEEESE mobbsie Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share #558 Posted May 25, 2013 Sherry, Mobbsie and Eric, a copy will be forwarded to you shortly Andy newbuilder101 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share #559 Posted May 25, 2013 Ok... back to the task at hand.. or rather.... what I intended to do yesterday... I had started work on the mizzen shrouds and I got about this far. Things were going well, but I had to pause for a moment. I'm wondering if the deadeye lanyards are a bit too long. I'm not adverse to redoing the shroud if the expert opinions deem it so (it is only one pair so far). I've only secured the forward lanyard with a single half hitch so undoing it won't be much of a challenge, and neither will be remaking the shroud again... Let me know what you all think.. Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted May 25, 2013 Share #560 Posted May 25, 2013 Hi Andy, Just spent some time reading your log and I have to say what wonderful work you have done on this model.As for the lanyards,possibly,a little shorter,but not much. Kind Regards Nigel Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted May 25, 2013 Share #561 Posted May 25, 2013 To use a technical term, perhaps a hair shorter. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted May 25, 2013 Share #562 Posted May 25, 2013 (edited) Hi Andy, I don't know who it was saying but the length of the lanyard is 2 1/2 times the deadeye….. I think It's now to long . But you are doing a much better job then I do! Edited May 25, 2013 by Sjors Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted May 25, 2013 Share #563 Posted May 25, 2013 yes......2 1/2 times the size of the dead eye is the basic rule....that's what I read in the days of the old site. Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share #564 Posted May 25, 2013 Yup... Seems the consensus agrees with me..... In another manner of speaking....I'm not crazy Thanks for the input, and Sjors, thanks for that quantifiable answer... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st george Posted May 25, 2013 Share #565 Posted May 25, 2013 She's looking good Andy. A job well done. David Quote David Current Build : HMAV Bounty - Amati Next Build : 18th Century Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted May 25, 2013 Share #566 Posted May 25, 2013 lovely work, Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share #567 Posted May 25, 2013 Thanks David I've just finished serving a replacement shroud, and I'm waiting for the acrylic to dry. That stuff is great to use on rigging.... I highly recommend it for anyone. Not only good for dealing with fuzzies, it has provided extra reinforcement for my knots and servings, and when I pulled the shrouds off, all the loops at the top have held their shapes... (But nothing is too stiff or brittle either!) Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share #568 Posted May 25, 2013 Whoops... Just missed you Kevin... Thanks Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted May 25, 2013 Share #569 Posted May 25, 2013 Whoops... Just missed you Kevin... Thanks Andy lol must be all the weight i have lost realworkingsailor and DBorgens 2 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamarvalley Posted May 25, 2013 Share #570 Posted May 25, 2013 I like how smooth your ties are, very nice. No doubt somewhere in the 39 or so pages you've probably said, but what acrylic? I started rigging, hated the fuzzy green junk thread from AL and ordered morope so I'm sort of on hold now. I tied a few shroud lines and used CA but it makes everything very stiff so a better replacement would be nice when the good stuff arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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