Blue Ensign Posted June 1, 2013 Share #631 Posted June 1, 2013 The stay collar around the Mainmast looks good to me, at the scale involved making two eyes and a lashing around the back of the mast is a result in itself. Imagine the purists trying to do a Rose Lashing. One minor nod to accuracy which won't involve you in any trouble, the stay passes around the Masthead from Port to Starboard so you may wish to turn the stay so the eye is on the Starboard side. B.E. Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted June 1, 2013 Share #632 Posted June 1, 2013 Andy as you are away again soon, is there anything you can take with you as part of the hobby.or is life just to busy Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share #633 Posted June 1, 2013 BE: Thanks for the help. I can quickly change the stay. I think I slightly misread the book. Since nothing is secure yet, easy change I will surely pick your brain a bit more as I get deeper into the rigging. Kevin, about the only thing that's safe to bring along are instruction manuals; they fit in suitcases and can withstand a little roughy handling Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st george Posted June 1, 2013 Share #634 Posted June 1, 2013 Andy, the seizing on your shrouds and mizzen stay looks great. Your machine does a great job, well done mate. David realworkingsailor 1 Quote David Current Build : HMAV Bounty - Amati Next Build : 18th Century Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted June 1, 2013 Share #635 Posted June 1, 2013 Nice realworkingsailor 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBlack Posted June 1, 2013 Share #636 Posted June 1, 2013 Andy, I'm a little late; I got the last of my college alumni things done today...it's been busy. I HAD to second David's comments above...your work is beautiful! BTW, that Rattlesnake model looks like the Mamoli version. Tom Blueskippy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted June 1, 2013 Share #637 Posted June 1, 2013 Looks great Andy. I like the mouse. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted June 2, 2013 Share #638 Posted June 2, 2013 nice bit of rigging so far andy....too bad you'll be called out soon. I'm sure you'll make the most of it Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share #639 Posted June 2, 2013 Thanks everyone David, do you want/need a copy of my fabrication instructions? Grant, thanks for looking in Tom, thanks I am certain it is the Mamoli version, which really isn't all that bad. Augie, that mouse is one thing that surprised me..... It really wasn't that hard to make. Popeye, such is my fate, just when things are going well, stupid reality rears its ugly head Call me crazy.... But I am really enjoying the rigging. Once I figure out various servings and seizings, where they go, and, most importantly, how to make them, (which is where my machine proves it is much more valuable than the sum of its parts), I love just sitting back and picking at the various lines.....and yes, I know I haven't got to the ratlines yet.... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 2, 2013 Share #640 Posted June 2, 2013 Sweet. That mouse is very effective. Don't sweat the ratlines. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st george Posted June 2, 2013 Share #641 Posted June 2, 2013 Andy I would love a copy of your fabrication instructions. I'll PM you my email. Cheers David Quote David Current Build : HMAV Bounty - Amati Next Build : 18th Century Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Script Posted June 2, 2013 Share #642 Posted June 2, 2013 Andy, Very well done....and the pics are also very well done. Cheers, Jim Quote Completed Robert E Lee, Misisssippi riverboat Completed, HMS Victory Bow Section Completed, Wells Fargo Stagecoach...Picasa album.... Completed, Lackawanna tugboat converted to private yacht... Completed: Sopwith Camel, 1:16 Scale, Model Airways...at another location... Completed: 1961 Ferrari F-1 Sharknose Completed: (sorta) OcCre BR-18 Locomotive Completed: 1/35 Pz.KPfw.III Completed: Allerton Steam Pumper circa 1869 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share #643 Posted June 2, 2013 So just a couple more pics this morning. Another look at the mizzen stay collar lashing and the lanyard. I came about as close as I dared get to an actual rose lashing (I did have to look that up online, found this link: http://www.frayedknotarts.com/tutorials/roselash/roselash.html), ok maybe not quite, but it works. The kit says to use 3mm deadeyes, but I used a couple of hearts I had. They may be a bit oversized, but they are more correct (I think). I've also snugged up the shrouds and tied off the deadeye lanyards. When that was all done, I gave the lines a coat of matte medium so things don't get too fuzzy while I'm gone. Andy augie, Ferit, Script and 4 others 7 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamarvalley Posted June 2, 2013 Share #644 Posted June 2, 2013 Good picture examples give good instruction. I've no clue if hearts are more 'correct' and I don't want to say I don't care but what i get from this build is your work is nice and tidy and neat and precise. Something for me to shoot for... now and on my next build which could well be the Pegasus sister... Fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerdvr Posted June 2, 2013 Share #645 Posted June 2, 2013 I know you are being inundated with requests for the instructions but please accept one more at your convenience. Thanks, your work sets a high standard. Thanks, Harley Quote Cheers, Harley<p Under Construction: USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 1/200 by ILoveKit Completed: F-35A 1/48 by Tamiya USS Atlanta CL-51 1/350 by Very Fire Liberty Ship John W. Brown 1/350 by Trumpeter HMS Spiraea K-08 1/350 USS Arizona BB-39 1/200 by Trumpeter/Mk1 Design HMS Sir Gareth 1/350 by Starling Models USS Missouri BB-63 1945 1/350 by Joy-Yard, 9/11/21 USS Indianapolis CA-35 1945 1/350 by Trumpeter USS Kidd DD-661, 1945, 1/350, on The Sullivans kit by Trumpeter USS Alaska CB-1, 1/350, Hobby Boss, Circa 2/1945 Brig Syren 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Started,On Hold: Frigate Confederacy 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 2, 2013 Share #646 Posted June 2, 2013 Hello Andy, She looks really great, clean etc... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share #647 Posted June 2, 2013 Thank you, Randy, Harley and Ferit Randy, I would honestly recommend the Pegasus over the Fly. Don't get me wrong, both are equally nice kits to build, I just feel that with the upgrades that come with the Peg, there are more things that can be done (read: modified) with her. Although there is an upgrade kit for the Fly, I haven't ever seen one in stock or for sale. Harley, don't worry, I'll gladly share my plans with MSW members. Ferit, thanks for stopping by. I'm quietly enjoying your Berlin build as well. Andy Ferit 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerryAmp Posted June 2, 2013 Share #648 Posted June 2, 2013 Andy all of that work on the lines and serviings and eyes and - omg, VERY neat and clean. Very cool to look at!!! -Adam Quote -Adam Current Builds Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June) On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB Completed Builds Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull Decommissioned Builds (Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( ) Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted June 2, 2013 Share #649 Posted June 2, 2013 Hi Andy You must serve some quality (Swiss?!) cheese on your Pegasus to attract such a quality mouse. Nice. Perhaps you could just round out the aft edge a bit. I think the mouse was originally built up with ropes and threads and therefore shouldn’t have too sharp an edge. Here is how Wolfram zu Mondfeld builds his mouse. He uses thread but I think wood with a somehow roapy texture would be fine as well. Me, I am too lazy for all this and just use a asymmetric figure-of-eight-knot to simulate a mouse. Cheers Peter Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted June 2, 2013 Share #650 Posted June 2, 2013 Your rigging is looking great Andy...have to agree with the others, very neat and tidy! Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted June 2, 2013 Share #651 Posted June 2, 2013 Got to agree with all the others mate, some real nice work there, including the mouse. Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted June 2, 2013 Share #652 Posted June 2, 2013 Andy, Memo for your next model; according to Lees the deadeyes would be correct, but the hearts look good anyway! The rose lashing is merely a little short of rose. if you were really demented, you could try making a rose shape and just tucking it under the seizing. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share #653 Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) Thanks every one Adam, I'm glad you (and many others) think my work is neat and tidy. The are a few things I would like to improve upon next time, but overall I am happy with the results Peter, thanks for the sketch. The photos don't show it too well, but I did round off that end of the mouse. Maybe I'll do it a little bit more on the next one Ben and Sherry, thanks once again for your support John.... Next time... Andy Edited June 3, 2013 by realworkingsailor Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted June 2, 2013 Share #654 Posted June 2, 2013 Looking really sweet Andy..........can't wait to see your rigging as a whole! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted June 3, 2013 Share #655 Posted June 3, 2013 Don't know what more I can add Andy. I am impressed. I am hoping when I redo all my rigging I can get it to look half as nice! Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 3, 2013 Share #656 Posted June 3, 2013 Andy, Your rigging is looking very neat and precise. I'm in awe of your eye for detail. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share #657 Posted June 3, 2013 Popeye, neither can I..... But I'm going to have to wait like the rest of you Robbyn, it's all in understanding what each piece of rigging is trying to achieve, and then trying to emulate it. Know your knots and splices, or at least how to fake them (more important for splices at this scale). For example, I made the seizings above the deadeyes by simply tying a clove hitch and turning it in. I subsequently added just one more half hitch to give the seizing some depth. Nothing really fancy, and maybe not correct if you ask the militant purists.... But I'll leave that for posterity to judge Mark, you guys and gals are all good for the ego, but I won't let it get to my head. Honestly all these positive remarks are very flattering, and I hope I continue to measure up. This past month has been a real adventure, from the masting, to the start of the standing rigging. I'm always amazed looking back, how much I've accomplished. I just wish I could work on her all the time.... But I'm not made of money and I have to work for a few more years yet. Andy popeye the sailor 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted June 3, 2013 Share #658 Posted June 3, 2013 Andy, I think she's coming together just beautifully. You see her everyday (when you're home) and the progress seems to just inch along. But we here see the results less often and the progress is ----- spectacular. Trust me. realworkingsailor 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted June 3, 2013 Share #659 Posted June 3, 2013 I have to agree Andy, compared to some of us, your progress is just flying along. Looking great too! realworkingsailor 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted June 3, 2013 Share #660 Posted June 3, 2013 Andy - I think everyone else has already said it - WOW!!!! All those years working the Lakes are paying off! I can only imagine how you keep the lines on the 1:1 models you work on.... realworkingsailor 1 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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