Diana by Kyak - OcCre - 1/85

[Kyak]

Hi guys,

This is a restart of my building log of the Diana by Occre.  The first log couldn't be found anymore. The administrators did there best, but no luck for me. Thanks guys for the search!!!

 

So here we go again. To hot to build so now is time to restart the log.

 

The box

 

 

Dry fitting 

 

together with the little sister

 

 

Start to plank the lower deck

 

Upper deck finished planking

 

Adding some bow fillers and fairing the bulkhead frames

 

Start of the first planking

 

The plywood quality isn't really good. After an half hour soak it starts to delaminate.  I had to glue it all back together. So be carefull..

 

Thats it for now.

 

[Kyak]

After a time out of a few months, time to continue again...

Preparation for the first layer of the planking following Chuck's method. For me is it the first time, so lets try something new.  Each side of the hull is divided in four sections. Lets see how things work out. 

 

 

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It looks pretty symmetric to me....

 

[Kyak]

In the meanwhile a little progress is made. The first belt has been planked. I'm pretty satisfied about the result, except for the bow. 

Lining of the bow was pretty hard en because of all the curves, placing the thickmarks wasn't also very easy. But we will see how it goes. Its first planking after all. It will all be covered up by second planking.

 

Here some pics:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Kyak]

Second belt is finished and halfway with the first layer of planks.

 

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[Kyak]

A question: 

The false keel is made of plywood.  Should i consider to plank it with mahogany or leave it the way it is? I love to hear your suggestions...

 

[Kyak]

The hull is closed. Only 1 stealer used at the stern of the ship. It was a little bit of a struggle for the fist time planking like this way, but  I'm pretty happy with the result.  

 

Now its time to plank the upper part of the hull and then sanding- (aka making dust-)time...

 

A question: The planks for second planking are very thin: 0.5mm and ther are difficult to bend sideways. Any tips????

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 10, 2020 by Kyak

[ObviousNewbie]

13 hours ago, Kyak said:

A question: The planks for second planking are very thin: 0.5mm and ther are difficult to bend sideways. Any tips????

 

Great job on the planking, congrats! Still trying to get my head around the technique, so your descriptions and pictures are really helpful.

 

The Sapelli veneer can be a handful, very brittle, difficult to cut into shape. I had no issue bending sideways as long as the strip was long enough. I used 2 strip halves, cut in different places so they wouldn't align on the hull.

 

I didn't use the cobblers glue which they're so fond of in the instructions, as you can hardly correct afterwards (and it stinks to high heaven). Used Mantua aliphatic glue, at key points (bow, any bends etc), used a small dab of CA to keep the strip into place until the PVA sets. Be especially careful around the bow, as the strips have a tendency to pop up and leave a nasty gap.

 

Hope this helps!

[Kyak]

Hello,

Did some sanding. Hull looks pretty fine to me...

[Kyak]

The first wale is in place. I screwed a clamp in the keel to clamp them at the bow where the hardest bend is. Works great!

[Kyak]

A little progress is made. The wales are installed and painted and i started second planking.

[Kyak]

First Belt is finished.  The thin sapelli (0,5mm) is very hard to bend sideways, with an iron and a lot of patience you can get the job done...

[Kyak]

Here is a little update

[Rob S]

This is a great build for a newbie to planking to see how it’s done.  It’s amazing how some modelers make it seem so simple. This log helps one see the process in logical steps. Very nice!

[Kyak]

12 hours ago, Rob S said:

This is a great build for a newbie to planking to see how it’s done.  It’s amazing how some modelers make it seem so simple. This log helps one see the process in logical steps. Very nice!

Hi Rob,

Thanks for the kind words.  Take your time and don't rush things and don't be afraid to do things over. Second plankings is much harder than the first layer because the wood strips are extremely thin (0.5mm).  When you bend thin strips sideways, they start to pop up on certain places. You can bend them sideways, in multiple stages. In the extreme curves, you have to do this proces up to 10 times, to get the curve right.  

[Kyak]

Second planking halfway, progress is slow...

[Kyak]

Planking below the wales is almost done. One side is finished.  

 

 

 

[Kyak]

She can float. The lower part of hull is finished.  Up next is the upper part and sanding....

[Kyak]

Planking is finished. Sanding is done. 

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

On 11/3/2020 at 5:24 PM, Kyak said:

The false keel is made of plywood.  Should i consider to plank it with mahogany or leave it the way it is? I love to hear your suggestions...

 

Hello, excellent job planking!

I’m working on Occre’s Revenge, and achieving far more seams and ugly bumps in my planking than yours.

 

As for the plywood beakhead and keel, I found that if you sand it (mine at least) the color lightens significantly and I can stain in with mohagany stain to get a finish color very close to the sapelli. Haven’t done it yet but experiments with the leftover plywood have given promising results. Maybe that could be a solution?

[Kyak]

On 12/26/2021 at 1:19 AM, Meriadoc Brandybuck said:

 

Hello, excellent job planking!

I’m working on Occre’s Revenge, and achieving far more seams and ugly bumps in my planking than yours.

 

As for the plywood beakhead and keel, I found that if you sand it (mine at least) the color lightens significantly and I can stain in with mohagany stain to get a finish color very close to the sapelli. Haven’t done it yet but experiments with the leftover plywood have given promising results. Maybe that could be a solution?

Thanks! I will replace the keel  with walnutwood. 

[Kyak]

Little update,

Added some rails

[Kyak]

Little update after long break...

[Erdict]

Hey Kyak, this is wonderful progress on a great model.  I finished this one last July.  I admire the job you've done so far.  I'll be following your log.

[Kyak]

Litlle update,

The lower part of the hull is oiled.

The keel and rudder parts are replaced by walnut parts.

The windows of the gallery are a pain in the a**. I couldn't get the curve right and decide to use the solution that DavidG used on his Diana.  Replacing the PE brass part by styreen strips.  It took a lot of hours to do this job... But happy with the re.  

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[DavidG]

Kyak, your galleries look awesome. I was never satisfied with mine, and looking your pictures makes me want to take them apart and do again.

[Kyak]

After almost one year, a little bit work done.

[Kyak]

Added some chaines to the rudder and stern.