Ron Burns Posted March 18, 2021 Share #1 Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) Hi everyone I know this topic has been beaten to death... almost. I'm the proud owner of a Aliexpress DC table saw with a 895 12-24V motor. Needless to say, this thing is a PITA! It's time to replace it. Ultimately I want a Jim Saw. Being Canadian, our dollar, shipping, probable duties etc. sadly make this out of reach. Next in line is the Proxxon FET which comes in, here in Canuck land about 300CDN less. My question is, has anyone ever had any experience with the Hyuda brand? I've only seen them for sale by an Australian company here Ausee Machines and Tools . The machine looks like a Proxxon rip with a few improvements but the price is too good to be passed over. Even with shipping it's less than the Proxxon. If any of our Australian friends have seen one, what do you think? Any other machines worth looking at? Ron Edited March 19, 2021 by Ron Burns Bad spelling thibaultron and Moab 2 Quote Current Build- HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted March 18, 2021 Share #2 Posted March 18, 2021 I'm happy with the Proxxon FET, that Hyuda looks like it would be worth a try.. Better than doing without if you can't spring for Byrnes at this point. mtaylor, Ron Burns, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Luck is just another word for good preparation. —MICHAEL ROSE Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burns Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share #3 Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Gregory said: I'm happy with the Proxxon FET, that Hyuda looks like it would be worth a try.. Better than doing without if you can't spring for Byrnes at this point. I'm almost leaning that way as they have spare parts available like motor, fence, speed controller etc. Don't know if that is a courtesy or a warning Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Build- HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted March 19, 2021 Share #4 Posted March 19, 2021 I'm surprised that you can't source a Proxxon in Canada. Try: www.chippingaway.com or www.Nutmegwoodworking.ca thibaultron, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burns Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share #5 Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, druxey said: I'm surprised that you can't source a Proxxon in Canada. Try: I have no problem finding a Proxxon here at all. Before I spend my money on something I'm a bit iffy on, I just want to cover a few more bases. I've read that some folks aren't that happy with the FET and say the older model is better than the newer. I really am curious about the Hyuda. Thanks for the links Canute, thibaultron, druxey and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build- HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce d Posted March 19, 2021 Share #6 Posted March 19, 2021 Hello Ron, The Hyuda spec includes a variable speed 200w motor. This sounds like a good thing but what it doesn't mention is the drive system. Proxxon ads always boast of their toothed drive and the Hyuda doesn't mention any thing about this part of the saw. It might be a good idea to find out what drive the Hyuda offers, especially since it has a variable speed function. The only grumble I ever heard directly from a Proxxon FET owner was that it didn't have enough power. When I saw what he was trying to do I understood the problem. The FET is not a miniature sawmill for oak and ebony, so don't overload it. I may get another FET one day strictly to get the tilting blade feature which the Byrnes does not have. HTH Bruce Canute, mtaylor, druxey and 2 others 5 Quote 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burns Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share #7 Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, bruce d said: The Hyuda spec includes a variable speed 200w motor. This sounds like a good thing but what it doesn't mention is the drive system Hi Bruce, Thank you for the response! I believe the drive is toothed, if what you refer to is the belt and pully driving the blade. Have a peek here - Spares All the best Ron Edited March 19, 2021 by Ron Burns thibaultron, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Build- HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted March 19, 2021 Share #8 Posted March 19, 2021 The Hyuda, like the PROXXON, seems to use non-standard size blades. It needs blades with a 10 mm bore, while the standard would be 16 mm, if I am not mistaken. As always with machines, one needs to check the availability of the respective tools. Canute, bruce d, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted March 19, 2021 Share #9 Posted March 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, wefalck said: As always with machines, one needs to check the availability of the respective tools. I commented in the other saw thread about the blade options for Proxxon. thibaultron, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Luck is just another word for good preparation. —MICHAEL ROSE Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted March 19, 2021 Share #10 Posted March 19, 2021 I can’t imagine why anyone would need a variable speed table saw. Justin P., Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted March 19, 2021 Share #11 Posted March 19, 2021 Have you ever sawn acrylic glass or styrene ? Canute, thibaultron, bruce d and 3 others 6 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted March 20, 2021 Share #12 Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) My 10in table saw cuts acrylic beautifully. It is not variable speed. I seldom use styrene and when I have I used a knife. Edited March 20, 2021 by Roger Pellett Canute and thibaultron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burns Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share #13 Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) Well, I did it. I ordered the Model Machines saw. I figured the Hyuda was just a copy of a good saw and I would be replacing my junk with more stuff that I would be unsatisfied with early on or down the road. I don't think there is any comparison really to the horsepower (or fraction thereof) of the Jim Saw and the small DC motor and I really liked the idea of having someone right here on MSW that will, should it be needed, support his product. From what everyone has written, the Model Machines saw will be working still when my bones are dust. The other thing that threw me was that I was considering trying to build my own. Locally and as far away as Saudi Arabia I have been quoted 250.00 and upwards of 320.00 for just having the aluminum top milled! You can see the logic! I ended up ordering the micrometer stop, the extended rip fence, adjustable miter gauge extension, accessory pack and a 3 inch Martindale .03 slitting blade. Soon I will be able to use my existing saw as a anchor for my Winchelsea Any changes you guys can think of? I wish I could have grabbed the sliding table but I still haven't told my wife about the saw. I gotta be real nice in the coming days Before I forget, thank you for your input on this old subject. I truly appreciate it Ron Edited March 25, 2021 by Ron Burns Bob Cleek, Ryland Craze, bruce d and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build- HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted March 25, 2021 Share #14 Posted March 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ron Burns said: I wish I could have grabbed the sliding table In due time. You'll be happy you went with the Byrnes even if the wife isn't! The sliding table is excellent, and something I use very often. bruce d, Ron Burns, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burns Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share #15 Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Justin P. said: The sliding table is excellent, and something I use very often. I really wish I could have ordered it but I had to get my small Syren order in as well. I'm gonna get crucified! thibaultron, Justin P., Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build- HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce d Posted March 25, 2021 Share #16 Posted March 25, 2021 🎼 Always look on the bright side of life 🎼 Canute, thibaultron, Rik Thistle and 2 others 4 1 Quote 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted March 25, 2021 Share #17 Posted March 25, 2021 47 minutes ago, Ron Burns said: I'm gonna get crucified! See if you can get yours in Swiss pear or boxwood... 😜 michael mott, RichardG, Canute and 3 others 1 5 Quote Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burns Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share #18 Posted March 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, bruce d said: 🎼 Always look on the bright side of life 🎼 Life of Brian has to be watched again! bruce d, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 1 3 Quote Current Build- HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted March 26, 2021 Share #19 Posted March 26, 2021 Ron, I’d order a couple of spare blades for two reasons: 1. If you are working on a project and your blade gets dull or loaded up with resin, you can change blades, finish your work, and deal with the dull blade later. 2. If you bought a saw with a 1/2in arbor, as time goes by blades may become harder to find. Thurston used to be the go to US supplier but they no offer these blades. Jim seems to sill have a source for quality blades that will fit a 1/2in arbor. I’d also have him make me an adaptor to allow me to use blades with a common metric sized hole. Roger Canute, RichardG, mtaylor and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted March 26, 2021 Share #20 Posted March 26, 2021 Congratulations on your purchase Ron, you will not be disappointed! "Quality is remembered long after price is forgotten" Canute, michael mott, mtaylor and 1 other 3 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cleek Posted March 27, 2021 Share #21 Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) On 3/25/2021 at 10:34 AM, Ron Burns said: I really wish I could have ordered it but I had to get my small Syren order in as well. I'm gonna get crucified! Call up Jim and have him add the cross-cut sled to your order. You know you want it. You will likely save considerably on shipping if it all goes out in one box. If She Who Must Be Obeyed objects, just tell her that you saved a bundle on shipping ordering the sled too. She'll see the logic of that right away. I'll bet she uses the same approach on you all the time if she's like most! I'd also suggest you spring for the taper jig. It doesn't cost much and is a thing of beauty to behold. It's handy for tapering, too. Edited March 27, 2021 by Bob Cleek Canute, Ron Burns and mtaylor 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expro Posted March 27, 2021 Share #22 Posted March 27, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 8:03 AM, Ron Burns said: Hi everyone I know this topic has been beaten to death... almost. I'm the proud owner of a Aliexpress DC table saw with a 895 12-24V motor. Needless to say, this thing is a PITA! It's time to replace it. Ultimately I want a Jim Saw. Being Canadian, our dollar, shipping, probable duties etc. sadly make this out of reach. Next in line is the Proxxon FET which comes in, here in Canuck land about 300CDN less. My question is, has anyone ever had any experience with the Hyuda brand? I've only seen them for sale by an Australian company here Ausee Machines and Tools . The machine looks like a Proxxon rip with a few improvements but the price is too good to be passed over. Even with shipping it's less than the Proxxon. If any of our Australian friends have seen one, what do you think? Any other machines worth looking at? Ron Hi Ron, Be prepared to do lots of work to get any accuracy from this Piece......t. The cross slide is sloppy in the slot - make at least two slides, one for straight cuts, another for bevels, mitres. If you want accurate mitre cuts, the whole motor carriage and tilt mechanism needs to be modified. There is a plastic turn knob the purpose is to lock in the tilt mechanism, sounds ok on paper. Actually, it distorts the alignment of the blade, so at say a 45º setting, the back of the blade also tilts down, resulting in a burn at the back of the blade. That in turn is not a square cut now. Today's work for me, is to try to somehow eliminate this distortion. If I can't achieve that, it may be listed for sale soon. There is a dust removal outlet which is restricted so a fairly powerful vacuum attached to it dose very little. This is a cheap and nasty, irrespective of price and claims made for it on the seller's website. mtaylor, Canute and Ron Burns 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burns Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share #23 Posted March 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Expro said: Be prepared to do lots of work to get any accuracy from this Piece......t. Looks like I would have been trading fecal matter of one sort in for a whole pile of freshly stepped in fecal matter Thank you for the warning and I'm so happy the company never responded to my last email! I did however buy a Byrnes Model Machines saw and will forever be done with Chinese made saws. Expro, I'm sorry you have to wade through so much of it. I hope you can sort it out. If you do, maybe you could post your adventures here? Thanks again Ron Bob Cleek, bruce d, RichardG and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build- HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expro Posted March 28, 2021 Share #24 Posted March 28, 2021 Ron, you dodged a bullet...... "company never responded to my last email!" Neglected to mention, zero customer assistance with product issues. A useless fence, which is distorted, making it not possible to use, was finally acknowledged as faulty by the seller, promised to send a replacement in November, still waiting........... Had a small success with realigning the motor/blade carriage, not 100% accuracy, but much better. With most machinery now, an ongoing effort to improve performance, especially if accuracy is important, seems part of the deal. Anyone who has issues with this "precision saw", and might be assisted by my adventures with it, happy to share. I must admit, I have no answer to the statement, "what did you expect for $ 400 ?" Gus mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Tuttle Posted April 5, 2021 Share #25 Posted April 5, 2021 Ron, I can only further confirm what you have already heard. I have been building models for over 45 years and have purchased every table saw made trying to get perfection. The only thing close to any of this was the Preac Saw and you were severely limited to size. I certainly can't acknowledge any problems with the Proxxon Saw because I have seen so many people praising this, but I can say you will not find a better model saw than the Jim Saw and he will stand behind this to the end. His customer service is beyond compare and his product is wonderful. Congratulations on you purchase!!! Ryland Craze, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Bill Current Build: Kate Cory Scratch Built Previous Builds: Benjamin W. Latham Scratch Built H A Parks Skipjack Scratch Built Charles W. Morgan Model Shipways Kit Rattlesnake Model Shipways Kit Diligence Model Shipways Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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