GLakie Posted November 18, 2015 Share #1291 Posted November 18, 2015 John - I know quite a few women that are great at hiding it. On a side-note, opiates are alright, if only used in moderation when you need them. All the hype on the tube tells us they're bad when referencing people that take 20 - 50 a day. In their case, they are bad, and are no doubt, being abused more than likely. Piet, mtaylor, CaptainSteve and 4 others 7 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlocked123 Posted November 18, 2015 Share #1292 Posted November 18, 2015 George, I'm sure you're right re opiates, but I'm hyper-sensitive to the issue. My boss's 20 year old son overdosed on OxyContin about a year ago. He was a great, smart, and funny kid and I still miss him. He started out on the pain killers due to a football injury in High School. Best, John Omega1234, Canute, Piet and 3 others 6 Quote Member: Connecticut Marine Model Society Nautical Research Guild Model Ship World "So we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past" F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby "If at first you don’t succeed.......skydiving is probably not for you” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted November 19, 2015 Share #1293 Posted November 19, 2015 Sorry to hear about the boy. Much too young. Oxycontin/oxycodone is one of those pain-killers that was mostly used for dying cancer patients in the past, and is generally over-prescribed by a multitude of doctors. A very strong and dangerous drug. I was referring to Vicodin. Effective if used with common-sense and moderation. Piet, Jack12477, Landlocked123 and 2 others 5 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jparsley Posted November 19, 2015 Share #1294 Posted November 19, 2015 I'm a nurse and I know the good and bad opiated can do Mark take care of the bride of yours and be there for her I will be praying for her betterment I was just giving you a hard time about your build like you said the wood is patient It will be there when you have the time But for now Janet needs your time more God bless you two CaptainSteve, mtaylor, Jack12477 and 6 others 9 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share #1295 Posted November 19, 2015 All I'll add at this point is that she is on opiates and trying (always to get off). She has more issues than what's been mentioned but the list is extensive. The lady is tougher than any 10 Marines I've ever met and at the pain clinic she didn't minimize like she usually does. We're working our way through this. I'm damn glad the wood is patient. Been trying to get another strake done today and wood just sits there looking at me... Jack12477, Landlocked123, Canute and 6 others 9 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted November 19, 2015 Share #1296 Posted November 19, 2015 Mark, one of the many problems I have with Chronic Lyme is the unbearable pain. I go to a pain clinic now & they have helped me so much. Opiates are bad if you don't need them but if you are suffering they are very helpful. I pray everything works out for her & she gets the relief she needs - & you too! Jesse CaptainSteve, Canute, Omega1234 and 5 others 8 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlocked123 Posted November 19, 2015 Share #1297 Posted November 19, 2015 Hi Mark, Jesse nailed it!!!!! You are a vital part of this site and we're all behind you!!!!!! Best, John CaptainSteve, Jack12477, GLakie and 5 others 8 Quote Member: Connecticut Marine Model Society Nautical Research Guild Model Ship World "So we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past" F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby "If at first you don’t succeed.......skydiving is probably not for you” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateNY Posted November 19, 2015 Share #1298 Posted November 19, 2015 Hi Mark, Sad to read of your Admiral's back problems.... take care of her and yourself as well. Will say another quiet prayer for a speedy recovery. Cheers, Nigel. GLakie, CaptainSteve, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build Logs: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section, USF Confederacy Model Shipways Completed Log: Red Dragon Artesania Latina Gallery: Red Dragon: Artesania Latina Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted November 19, 2015 Share #1299 Posted November 19, 2015 Hi Mark....so sorry to hear about your wife's health problems,it's no fun watching the one you love in pain....my prayers and thoughts are with your wife and you also....Take good care of her. Frank CaptainSteve, Canute, JesseLee and 6 others 9 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted November 19, 2015 Share #1300 Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) G'day Mark I've been suffering from lower back pain for the past 18 years and it's no good. I know what she's going through. PLEASE don't give into spinal fusion. All the people that I've known has regretted it. Use hot and cold pack, massage with deep heat and bed rest. The pain clinic was no good for me, I was expelled because my muscles were and still in, a constant state of movement and they couldn't get the needle in the right spot. As Jesse said, harder drugs are there to use under control by your doctor. They are very good if used wisely, and I was told at the pain clinic when I was there, you can't get hooked on the drugs if you need them. I'm a living example of that. Keep up her spirits is the best thing you can do! Cheers Greg Edited November 19, 2015 by Greg the peg leg sailor Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted November 19, 2015 Share #1301 Posted November 19, 2015 I pray that your loved one heals soon. Because of my problems I have a fracture in my lower back and understand pain pills. They come in handy when needed but I will not get behind a wheel or operate a machine when I take one. The biggest drawback is basically what you used to take for granted no longer works for you and you feel helpless. David B Omega1234, augie, GLakie and 7 others 10 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted November 19, 2015 Share #1302 Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) That was what my Dr. told me as well. David B Edited November 19, 2015 by dgbot Canute, Piet, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share #1303 Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) I appreciate the comments and insight. We're pretty sure surgery isn't the answer. We do need to get her off the opiates due to bowel problems and still get pain relief. Being in Oregon, we're working on the "alternative" but her back isn't simple due to a lifetime of compensation. We think the pain clinic is on the right path.... we'll see. Back on topic... here's a pic... 6 more strakes to go and one (at the bow) will need to be a drop plank... <sigh> I tried to get it without one.. but not going to happen. Edited November 19, 2015 by mtaylor canoe21, GuntherMT, Trussben and 35 others 38 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted November 19, 2015 Share #1304 Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Starting to look like a lady of the sea Mark, her skirts are almost completed. cheers Pat Edited November 19, 2015 by BANYAN Piet, Canute, dgbot and 5 others 8 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoB Shaw Posted November 19, 2015 Share #1305 Posted November 19, 2015 Great build log and build, she's progressing very nicely indeed a beautiful ship and build to match. Piet, Omega1234, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted November 19, 2015 Share #1306 Posted November 19, 2015 Keep on, Mark. You and Admiral will pass temporary dificulties well dgbot, Piet, Omega1234 and 4 others 7 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jparsley Posted November 19, 2015 Share #1307 Posted November 19, 2015 Mark that planking looks great Now explain to me is it more difficult to plank on a scratch build or on a kit Seems like your being tedious with the strips but is it because it's difficult or because your just being more of a perfectionist due to pride in scratching mtaylor, GLakie, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1308 Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Doing a beautiful job on the hull planking. So neat and after a sanding it will be outstanding! Wish I can do it that as good! Greg Edited November 20, 2015 by Greg the peg leg sailor Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share #1309 Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) I'll be honest, right now to my eye, it needs a lot of work but we'll see. I'm hoping that just some heavy sanding as the planks were not all same thickness. I ran out and when I cut some more, I was off a tad... I'm happy though. Mark that planking looks great Now explain to me is it more difficult to plank on a scratch build or on a kit Seems like your being tedious with the strips but is it because it's difficult or because your just being more of a perfectionist due to pride in scratching Good grief. I just realized I've been working on this hull planking since January... More difficult.. hmm.... I'm trying to do it scale? Ok..seriously, the kits that I did had much wider planks and were all double planked hulls so on this one I get one shot at making it right. No sanding filler, no fudging. The Triton cross-section was pretty straight forward. And yes, I'm trying to be a perfectionist... This one... I want it to scale and as close as I can.. a personal challenge and French planking of this this period has some challenges. The planking thins out as it approaches the turn of the bilge. It starts out thick and thins down. There's no distinct wales like on the English/American ships of the period. Only a "step". The ebony strake at the bottom of the gunports is the first wale plank. The wale strakes are all 3/16" wide with some tapering at the bow and definitely some unique twists at the stern. The lower strakes are all 1/8" wide and taper at the bow. Towards the stern, they taper again and then go wide at the rudder post. On the bright side... thanks to the help and advice from people here at MSW the planking is almost finished. Edited November 20, 2015 by mtaylor Omega1234, CaptainSteve, Jack12477 and 5 others 8 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jparsley Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1310 Posted November 20, 2015 Wow sounds very complicated but I think it looks great and you should be very proud of your determined efforts Omega1234, Piet, GLakie and 5 others 8 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1311 Posted November 20, 2015 I feel like a dummy after reading that. If you understand it I'm sure you can do it! mtaylor, Piet, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jparsley Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1312 Posted November 20, 2015 I heard hard hard harder a little easier then pray it works lol Jack12477, WackoWolf, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share #1313 Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Hmm..... Let me simplify.... here's a picture. The planks between the first wale and the last are all wide and thick. Starting after the first, they all get thinner until they're at the same thickness as the lower planks. They also change in width. I've taken a bit of liberty on the width change as I wasn't sure I could match the width at each strake. If I were doing this again <cold shiver up the spine> I would as I'm more confident and comfortable with what's needed. As for the tapering I mentioned, I lined off the hull, figured out how many strakes I needed and marked every frame to show the width. Do to the shape of hull, the planks take some "unique" twists, turns and tapering. It's not a uniform taper. I hope this helps. If not, let me know and I'll try to show it differently. The other ships (kits) I've done, and the ships I have plans for (English and American) don't have a lot "strangeness" to them by comparison. Edit: Click the picture to make it bigger and readable. Edited November 20, 2015 by mtaylor JesseLee, WackoWolf, pete48 and 14 others 17 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1314 Posted November 20, 2015 Mark, I don't know how I missed this one? Hmmm now following along SO nice.. Will go back in a.m. with 2 no 3 coffees and catch up to page 1 (:-) Michael Omega1234, mtaylor, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1315 Posted November 20, 2015 Planking definitely looks super good. I hope for the best for Janet and give her my best. Cheers, GLakie, mtaylor, WackoWolf and 4 others 7 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1316 Posted November 20, 2015 A year well spent, mate. Jack12477, popeye the sailor, GLakie and 5 others 8 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jparsley Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1317 Posted November 20, 2015 Got your work Cut out for you but you've done a great job wonderful year well spent. It is a very strange way to plank the ship But it definitely shows your mastery As life allows you I am excited to see this girl come to tuition mtaylor, Jack12477, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1318 Posted November 20, 2015 G'day Mark Did you say that you were trying to be a perfectionist! ........I would never have guessed. Again well done. Havagooday Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1319 Posted November 20, 2015 I get it now (told you I feel like a dummy) mtaylor, GLakie, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted November 20, 2015 Share #1320 Posted November 20, 2015 You're not the only one Jesse! Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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