Licorne 1755 by mtaylor - 3/16" scale - French Frigate - from Hahn plans - Version 2.0 - TERMINATED

[GLakie]

John - I know quite a few women that are great at hiding it.  On a side-note, opiates are alright, if only used in moderation when you need them.  All the hype on the tube tells us they're bad when referencing people that take 20 - 50 a day. In their case, they are bad, and are no doubt, being abused more than likely.

[Landlocked123]

George,

 

I'm sure you're right re opiates, but I'm hyper-sensitive to the issue. My boss's 20 year old son overdosed on OxyContin about a year ago. He was a great, smart, and funny kid and I still miss him. He started out on the pain killers due to a football injury in High School.

 

Best,

John

[GLakie]

Sorry to hear about the boy.  Much too young.  Oxycontin/oxycodone is one of those pain-killers that was mostly used for dying cancer patients in the past, and is generally over-prescribed by a multitude of doctors.  A very strong and dangerous drug.  I was referring to Vicodin.  Effective if used with common-sense and moderation. 

[Jparsley]

I'm a nurse and I know the good and bad opiated can do Mark take care of the bride of yours and be there for her I will be praying for her betterment I was just giving you a hard time about your build like you said the wood is patient It will be there when you have the time But for now Janet needs your time more God bless you two

[mtaylor]

All I'll add at this point is that she is on opiates and trying (always to get off).  She has more issues than what's been mentioned but the list is extensive.  The lady is tougher than any 10 Marines I've ever met and at the pain clinic she didn't minimize like she usually does.  We're working our way through this.  

 

I'm damn glad the wood is patient.  Been trying to get another strake done today and wood just sits there looking at me... 

[JesseLee]

Mark, one of the many problems I have with Chronic Lyme is the unbearable pain. I go to a pain clinic now & they have helped me so much. Opiates are bad if you don't need them but if you are suffering they are very helpful. I pray everything works out for her & she gets the relief she needs - & you too!

 

Jesse

[Landlocked123]

Hi Mark,

 

Jesse nailed it!!!!! You are a vital part of this site and we're all behind you!!!!!!

 

Best,

John

[UpstateNY]

Hi Mark,

 

Sad to read of your Admiral's back problems.... take care of her and yourself as well.

 

Will say another quiet prayer for a speedy recovery.

 

Cheers,

 

Nigel.

[riverboat]

Hi Mark....so sorry to hear about your wife's health problems,it's no fun watching the one you love in pain....my prayers and thoughts are with your wife and you also....Take good care of her.

 

Frank

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

G'day Mark

I've been suffering from lower back pain for the past 18 years and it's no good. I know what she's going through.

 

PLEASE don't give into spinal fusion. All the people that I've known has regretted it. Use hot and cold pack, massage with deep heat and bed rest.

 

The pain clinic was no good for me, I was expelled because my muscles were and still in, a constant state of movement and they couldn't get the needle in the right spot.

 

As Jesse said, harder drugs are there to use under control by your doctor. They are very good if used wisely, and I was told at the pain clinic when I was there, you can't get hooked on the drugs if you need them. I'm a living example of that.

 

Keep up her spirits is the best thing you can do!

 

Cheers

Greg

Edited November 19, 2015 by Greg the peg leg sailor

[dgbot]

I pray that your loved one heals soon.  Because of my problems I have a fracture in my lower back and understand pain pills.  They come in handy when needed but I will not get behind a wheel or operate a machine when I take one.  The biggest drawback is basically what you used to take for granted no longer works for you and you feel helpless.

David B

[dgbot]

That was what my Dr. told me as well.

David B

Edited November 19, 2015 by dgbot

[mtaylor]

I appreciate the comments and insight.  We're pretty sure surgery isn't the answer.  We do need to get her off the opiates due to bowel problems and still get pain relief.  Being in Oregon, we're working on the "alternative" but her back isn't simple due to a lifetime of compensation.  We think the pain clinic is on the right path.... we'll see.

 

Back on topic... here's a pic... 6 more strakes to go and one (at the bow) will need to be a drop plank...  <sigh>  I tried to get it without one.. but not going to happen.

 

Edited November 19, 2015 by mtaylor

[BANYAN]

Starting to look like a lady of the sea Mark, her skirts are almost completed.

 

cheers

 

Pat

Edited November 19, 2015 by BANYAN

[RoB Shaw]

Great build log and build, she's progressing very nicely indeed a beautiful ship and build to match.

[NenadM]

Keep on, Mark. You and Admiral will pass temporary dificulties well

[Jparsley]

Mark that planking looks great Now explain to me is it more difficult to plank on a scratch build or on a kit Seems like your being tedious with the strips but is it because it's difficult or because your just being more of a perfectionist due to pride in scratching

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

Doing a beautiful job on the hull planking. So neat and after a sanding it will be outstanding! Wish I can do it that as good!

Greg

Edited November 20, 2015 by Greg the peg leg sailor

[mtaylor]

I'll be honest, right now to my eye, it needs a lot of work but we'll see.  I'm hoping that just some heavy sanding as the planks were not all same thickness.   I ran out and when I cut some more, I was off a tad... I'm happy though. 

 

 

Mark that planking looks great Now explain to me is it more difficult to plank on a scratch build or on a kit Seems like your being tedious with the strips but is it because it's difficult or because your just being more of a perfectionist due to pride in scratching

 

Good grief.  I just realized I've been working on this hull planking since January...

 

More difficult.. hmm.... I'm trying to do it scale?    Ok..seriously, the kits that I did had much wider planks and were all double planked hulls so on this one I get one shot at making it right.  No sanding filler, no fudging.  The Triton cross-section was pretty straight forward.   And yes, I'm trying to be a perfectionist...

 

This one... I want it to scale and as close as I can.. a personal challenge and French planking of this this period has some challenges.  The planking thins out as it approaches the turn of the bilge. It starts out thick and thins down.  There's no distinct wales like on the English/American ships of the period. Only a "step". The ebony strake at the bottom of the gunports is the first wale plank.

 

The wale strakes are all 3/16" wide with some tapering at the bow and definitely some unique twists at the stern.   The lower strakes are all 1/8" wide and taper at the bow.  Towards the stern, they taper again and then go wide at the rudder post. 

 

On the bright side... thanks to the help and advice from people here at MSW the planking is almost finished.

Edited November 20, 2015 by mtaylor

[Jparsley]

Wow sounds very complicated but I think it looks great and you should be very proud of your determined efforts

[JesseLee]

I feel like a dummy after reading that. If you understand it I'm sure you can do it!

[Jparsley]

I heard hard hard harder a little easier then pray it works lol

[mtaylor]

Hmm..... Let me simplify.... here's a picture. 

 

The planks between the first wale and the last are all wide and thick.  Starting after the first, they all get thinner until they're at the same thickness as the  lower planks.  They also change in width.  I've taken a bit of liberty on the width change as I wasn't sure I could match the width at each strake.  If I were doing this again <cold shiver up the spine> I would as I'm more confident and comfortable with what's needed.

 

As for the tapering I mentioned, I lined off the hull, figured out how many strakes I needed and marked every frame to show the width.  Do to the shape of hull, the planks take some "unique" twists, turns and tapering.  It's not a uniform taper.

 

I hope this helps.  If not, let me know and I'll try to show it differently.   The other ships (kits) I've done, and the ships I have plans for (English and American) don't have a lot "strangeness" to them by comparison.

 

Edit:  Click the picture to make it bigger and readable.

 

Edited November 20, 2015 by mtaylor

[md1400cs]

Mark,

 

I don't know how I missed this one? Hmmm now following along SO nice..

 

Will go back in a.m. with 2 no 3 coffees and catch up to page 1 (:-)

 

Michael

[Piet]

Planking definitely looks super good.  I hope for the best for Janet and give her my best.

 

Cheers, 

[augie]

A year well spent, mate.

[Jparsley]

Got your work Cut out for you but you've done a great job wonderful year well spent. It is a very strange way to plank the ship But it definitely shows your mastery As life allows you I am excited to see this girl come to tuition

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

G'day Mark

Did you say that you were trying to be a perfectionist! ........I would never have guessed. Again well done.

Havagooday

Greg

[JesseLee]

I get it now (told you I feel like a dummy)

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

You're not the only one Jesse!