mtaylor Posted April 14, 2016 #421 Posted April 14, 2016 I'd take out the planks and salvage what I could from them. Then put the opening where it belongs. Or... cut the frame..... Elijah, dgbot, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Ulises Victoria Posted April 14, 2016 Author #422 Posted April 14, 2016 Thanks all. Mark... I didn't think of your option and seems it is the more feasible. Since the planks are glued to the frame only at the ends, I don't think there will be a mayor problem. In fact I may try to lift all the planks together and just rotate them. (Easier said than done, I know) BANYAN, CaptainSteve, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted April 15, 2016 #423 Posted April 15, 2016 G'day Ulisus. What a dilemma! Is it possible to remove all the gratings and redo the frame? Or Keith's idea sounds good to me, only if you can remove the planking! Good luck my mate on what ever you do! Its seems like a month of "enhancements" or redos for everyone on this forum! Happymodelling Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:...
BANYAN Posted April 15, 2016 #424 Posted April 15, 2016 Oh the joys of modelling Ulises - Good luck with the fix, seems you have a solution inmind. cheers Pat GLakie, mtaylor, Elijah and 1 other 4 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
Ulises Victoria Posted April 15, 2016 Author #425 Posted April 15, 2016 Update on the update. I followed Mark's tip and here is the thing "redux". The planks were very well glued. I was abraid to break the frame if tried too hard to unglue them, so I had to "carve" the planks out. This fix cost me blood, literally! Finished! Next step: No measures are given for the taper of the bottom of the lower platform. Thanks for watching, likes and tips!!! Ulises mtaylor, Bobstrake, MarisStella.hr and 7 others 10 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Elijah Posted April 15, 2016 #426 Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) Good luck with the fix! We all make mistakes, as I'm sure you already know ! Edit: Sorry, I posted this before the page reloaded with your new post on it. Edited April 15, 2016 by Elijah mtaylor, GLakie and Ulises Victoria 3 Quote -Elijah Current build(s): Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/ Completed build(s): Model Shipways Phantom http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376 Member of: The Nautical Research Guild N.R.M.S.S. (Nautical Research and Model Ship Society)
Ulises Victoria Posted April 15, 2016 Author #427 Posted April 15, 2016 Fixing mistakes is part of the fun!!! mtaylor, Elijah, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Sjors Posted April 15, 2016 #428 Posted April 15, 2016 When i make mistakes and re- do them, why do you have to follow me Ulises ??????? But also a great fix !!! I'm proud of you And keep the bandages by hand please...... Sjors mtaylor, Elijah, dgbot and 2 others 5 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
mtaylor Posted April 15, 2016 #429 Posted April 15, 2016 Very nicely done on the fix Ulises.. I think a happy dance is called for... Sorry about the wound. Someone once said a long time that in this hobby, there will be blood. I think all of us have left DNA on our models. Ulises Victoria, CaptainSteve, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Ulises Victoria Posted April 15, 2016 Author #430 Posted April 15, 2016 When i make mistakes and re- do them, why do you have to follow me Ulises ??????? Because you are my Guru. But also a great fix !!! I'm proud of you Thank you!!! And keep the bandages by hand please...... Band Aids, alcohol (medicinal) and alcohol (drinkable) are always at hand. Sjors Sjors, GLakie, marktiedens and 2 others 5 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
BANYAN Posted April 16, 2016 #431 Posted April 16, 2016 Great recovery Ulises, remember the alcohol is for medicinal purposes ..... cheers Pat Ulises Victoria, GLakie, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
Ulises Victoria Posted April 19, 2016 Author #432 Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) Hello all, another small update. These were the chimneys that came with the kit. These the ones I ordered later. They may be a bit bigger but I don't feel they look awkwardly big. General views of present state of the ship´s deck . I'm working on this part. Instructions say to glue together 8 pieces of 3x3 wood to make a platform and then glue on the edges pieces of the "combs" you use to make gratings. You then cut pieces of 1 x 1 x 8 and place them in the notches of the grating material, and then close the upper part with more gratings (see drawing). I tried to follow their instructions, but the 1 x 1 wood in the kit became impossible to work with. First it was not square at all, and then it split horribly when tried to cut it. So I choose to do it differently. Using these pre-scribed material, I cut 8mm stripes from it and started forming the walls. The piece of wood in the back is for you to see it and to hide the mess behind. This may or may not be accurate, but who can tell? The important thing is that I am very happy with the outcome. Will post again when they are finished. Edited April 19, 2016 by Ulises Victoria BANYAN, GLakie, CaptainSteve and 8 others 11 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Sjors Posted April 19, 2016 #433 Posted April 19, 2016 Very nice solution Ulises. For me it looks real and that's enough Sjors GLakie, Elijah, Ulises Victoria and 1 other 4 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
mtaylor Posted April 19, 2016 #434 Posted April 19, 2016 That looks to be an excellent solution, Ulises. Ulises Victoria, WackoWolf, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Ulises Victoria Posted April 21, 2016 Author #435 Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) Another small update. The structures I was working on in the last post, are now done and fixed in place. Measurements are wrong somewhere. Instructions says to use 1 x 3 wood in the upper cover and shows 4 pieces of wood on each side. By doing so, the opening in the middle is a lot smaller than in the drawing. Oh well!!! No big deal! General view of deck at the moment. Edited April 21, 2016 by Ulises Victoria GLakie, WackoWolf, Elijah and 8 others 11 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
md1400cs Posted April 21, 2016 #436 Posted April 21, 2016 Ulises, Nice update. These 1700's ship kits seem very difficult, and complex. ======== Under your table is the Santísima Trinidad. After this one that should be "a walk in the park" for you (:-) Full ship I assume? I also have that one "in waiting" (OcCre as well), but it is the cross-section. Michael mtaylor, Elijah and GLakie 3 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa -
Ulises Victoria Posted April 21, 2016 Author #437 Posted April 21, 2016 Thank you very much for your comment, Michael! Indeed the Santísima (full ship) is already in my stash, however I feel more inclined towards older ships like Soleil Royale, or Sovereign of the Seas. That's why I say in my signature that at this moment, San Felipe could be my next project. I had the Royal Louis in my wish list for so many years. I just love this ship!!! Sjors, Elijah, Seventynet and 3 others 6 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Elijah Posted April 22, 2016 #438 Posted April 22, 2016 The deck is looking great Ulises! Ulises Victoria, Seventynet, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote -Elijah Current build(s): Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/ Completed build(s): Model Shipways Phantom http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376 Member of: The Nautical Research Guild N.R.M.S.S. (Nautical Research and Model Ship Society)
md1400cs Posted April 22, 2016 #439 Posted April 22, 2016 Thank you very much for your comment, Michael! Indeed the Santísima (full ship) is already in my stash, however I feel more inclined towards older ships like Soleil Royale, or Sovereign of the Seas. That's why I say in my signature that at this moment, San Felipe could be my next project. I had the Royal Louis in my wish list for so many years. I just love this ship!!! Well Ulises, ¡Dios mío. Impressive indeed. I would, and have always wanted to do the Soleil Royal, but as you know, I was born in France. So a dream for me. And as you know I lived in DF for two years. Hmm no longer called DF (:-) Hmm did the French invade? Chapultepec Park is so beautiful Cheers, Michael Elijah, Seventynet, Ulises Victoria and 2 others 5 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa -
BANYAN Posted April 22, 2016 #440 Posted April 22, 2016 Nice work Ulises; that patina looks great and well suited to this style of model. cheers Pat GLakie, mtaylor, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
Ulises Victoria Posted April 22, 2016 Author #441 Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) Thank you all for your comments and encouragement. What a GREAT Hobby this is!!!! Another small update. Working now on this part: Instructions call for the use of those plastic (Plastic!!! Blasphemy!!! ) windows. So I am taking some liberties here as well. This next step is scary!!! Especially 112! Thank you all. Best regards. Ulises Edited April 22, 2016 by Ulises Victoria WackoWolf, tomasg, Karleop and 8 others 11 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Sjors Posted April 23, 2016 #442 Posted April 23, 2016 Why is 112 scary Ulises ???? With your skills 112 has to be afraid for you !!!!! Sjors Ulises Victoria, GLakie, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
S.Coleman Posted April 23, 2016 #443 Posted April 23, 2016 I was more looking at 110! Elijah, Sjors, JWD and 4 others 7 Quote Regards, Scott Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli Completed builds: 1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli - 1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli - 1:54 Adventure, Amati - 1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL 1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli - 1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel - 1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal Awaiting construction: 1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL - 1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard
JanV Posted April 23, 2016 #444 Posted April 23, 2016 Hi Ulises, I just noticed your build again and had to read several topics. Again a marvelous job you are doing here. I will keep following you from now again. GLakie, mtaylor, Ulises Victoria and 1 other 4 Quote Jan V. current build: Vasa-1628 Corel / Battle Station Mantua/Panart, previous: Statenjacht / Cross section HMS Victory / diorama shipyard
Sailor1234567890 Posted April 23, 2016 #445 Posted April 23, 2016 Are those twin companionway hatches all the way aft? I can't imagine why there'd be two of them there. Seems an odd place for them. GLakie, Elijah and mtaylor 3 Quote
Ulises Victoria Posted April 23, 2016 Author #446 Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) Thank you all: Sjors: Thanks for the compliment! Scott: 110 is number 2! JanV. Much obliged! Sailor: Please look at first picture in post #467. That's where they are placed. I have no other source of information regarding this particular ship, than the instructions. Edited April 23, 2016 by Ulises Victoria Elijah, mtaylor, Sjors and 2 others 5 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted April 23, 2016 #447 Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) G'day Ulises Brilliant job on the last 3 posts. Your solution for the two boxes at the stern is a bit of genius! I agree that PLASTIC is not on on a wooden ship! Is is more like swearing to me, but blastomy is also correct! Happymodelling mate Greg Edited April 23, 2016 by Greg the peg leg sailor Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:...
Ulises Victoria Posted April 25, 2016 Author #448 Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Mini-update. This is one step that I was postponing since I can't remember when. I wasn't too excited about it: Cut that section in the bow. Finally I'm over it! Still some finishing to do, but the main work is done. I had to move my ship temporarily to my pen turning workshop where I have and can use more noisy and dust making machinery. Edited April 25, 2016 by Ulises Victoria Elijah, NMBROOK, Barbossa and 5 others 8 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
donrobinson Posted April 25, 2016 #449 Posted April 25, 2016 Now I see why you were not to excited to do this! Fine job though, what did you use to cut it out? GLakie, Elijah and mtaylor 3 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus
Ulises Victoria Posted April 25, 2016 Author #450 Posted April 25, 2016 Hello Don, and many thanks for the bunch of likes. I used a Dremel with a sanding drum attachment, so I didn't actually cut it, but sand it down. Elijah, dgbot, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
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