GLakie Posted December 7, 2015 Share #391 Posted December 7, 2015 She's looking awesome Matt! Can't wait to see what you come up with for the sails.! Bobstrake, CaptainSteve, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrangus Posted December 7, 2015 Share #392 Posted December 7, 2015 Matt this looks great, you've passed me! It must've taken forever to serve all those lines.... makes it look super. GLakie, mattsayers148, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSteve Posted December 7, 2015 Share #393 Posted December 7, 2015 She looks spectacular, Matt !! The "colourations" you have given her throughout make it seem like she was built a century or more ago !! Bobstrake, mtaylor, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted December 8, 2015 Share #394 Posted December 8, 2015 I think Steve nails it with regards to the model's look; it has a beautiful patina that really stands out to me. CaptainSteve, GLakie, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 8, 2015 Share #395 Posted December 8, 2015 Very nicely done, Matt. The aging and rigging look perfect. mattsayers148, GLakie, Moonbug and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted December 8, 2015 Share #396 Posted December 8, 2015 Looking good Matt, If you decide on sails I think that if you furled them the effect would be perfect. David B GLakie, Canute, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted December 8, 2015 Share #397 Posted December 8, 2015 Good morning Matt - concur with Mark - particularly with regard to the coloring / aging. Very nice. - Bug mattsayers148, mtaylor, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted December 8, 2015 Share #398 Posted December 8, 2015 Outstanding!! work Matt....... really love the look!! Frank mtaylor, GLakie, mattsayers148 and 2 others 5 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miloman Posted December 17, 2015 Share #399 Posted December 17, 2015 Matt; great build and progress. Very, very helpful! Milo mtaylor, mattsayers148, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaslambo Posted December 17, 2015 Share #400 Posted December 17, 2015 I concur, you're a master of the aging process...superbly done mtaylor, mattsayers148, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Boyd Current Build - HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina - Scale1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsayers148 Posted December 19, 2015 Author Share #401 Posted December 19, 2015 Thank you George, Robb, CaptainSteve, CH, Mark, David, Bug, Frank, miloman, and Boyd for your kind words of encouragement. Also thanks to all who hit the like button. Finally got the re-rigging(aged ropes) finished on the 12inch smooth bore. It turned out to be quite interesting to remove and replace the ropes with the cannon affixed in place. So if anyone needs a lobotomy??? Any how, I picked up some muslin to begin working on the sail. Turns out it's almost exact to the kit supplied sailcloth so let the experimentations commence. I also found a blank, white handkerchief swatch in one of my vintage boxes of DMC and am trying a few coloring methods for the sails. Now I just need to get my hands on a yard of the hanky material. It's so thin you can see through it, so I'm not quite sure how it'll work out. One thing I've been searching for and haven't found yet, is the order in which the sails would be set from the furled position. I'm thinking of having a sail or two opened to the wind, but not sure which one(s) that would be. So if anyone can point me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated. Bobstrake, mtaylor, dgbot and 14 others 17 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted December 19, 2015 Share #402 Posted December 19, 2015 I'm not a sail expert, but wouldn't it partly depend on the conditions and context? My limited understanding is that topsails were generally used for light maneuverability in square-rigged ships, so in theory would often be the first set from a standstill, but I'm not sure of the procedure on a schooner rig. Canute, Bobstrake, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted December 19, 2015 Share #403 Posted December 19, 2015 Never been on a sailing ship myself Matt, but it would seem to make sense to set them according to how strong the wind is. The stronger the wind, the lower on the mast to reduce stress on the mast. Just guessing of course. Bobstrake, mtaylor, mattsayers148 and 1 other 4 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 20, 2015 Share #404 Posted December 20, 2015 From the bits and pieces I've read, the topmost sails were set first. The Brits knew the fleet was coming out prior to the Battle of Trafalgar because the French and Spanish were setting the top gallants and top royals. I'm sure there's some books around that would describe this process... but darned if I know which ones. mattsayers148, Bobstrake, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsayers148 Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share #405 Posted December 20, 2015 It would seem that you guys are all correct. As CH said, conditions would determine order of setting sail. These vids give a good idea of the workings. Thank you guys for the input. I think Robb asked about this awhile back so hopefully this helps me, Robb and others to come up with new ideas for sail set up! riverboat, Bobstrake, Salty Sea Dog and 4 others 7 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerty Posted January 27, 2016 Share #406 Posted January 27, 2016 Very nice work Matt ! -- and cool videos too. Look forward to following along - Canute, mtaylor, mattsayers148 and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: Willie L. Bennett - Model Shipways Future Interests: Friendship Sloop - BlueJacket Ship Crafters Cape Cod Catboat - BlueJacket Ship Crafters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted January 27, 2016 Share #407 Posted January 27, 2016 Great!! videos .... thanks for posting those Matt..... the rigging on those ships is amazing!! ..... if I order some rope from Chuck in the future I'm going to see if he can do white , that way i can color it to get that nice grey look to it. Frank GLakie, CaptainSteve, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsayers148 Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share #408 Posted February 5, 2016 Well I didn't want anyone to think I fell of the earth. These sails are taking quite some time to achieve, what I feel to be, satisfactory status. So here's a couple of photos of the figure head for Nutz Pirate Ship. I used ebony both for color and it's a nice wood to carve. Pocket knife and dremel diamond grinding bits were used to make this mediocre representation of the human skull. Unlike other figure heads, this won't be attached to the bow, but sit atop the point of the bowsprit. mtaylor, UpstateNY, GLakie and 8 others 11 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted February 5, 2016 Share #409 Posted February 5, 2016 Nice job on the skull Matt! Are you going to fly The Jolly Roger. That flag, associated with pirates, actually originated in the 13th century with the Knights Templar flying it to invoke terror. Bobstrake, mattsayers148, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSteve Posted February 5, 2016 Share #410 Posted February 5, 2016 Awesome figurehead, Matt .... it looks almost as though it has been carved into a rock-face !! mtaylor, GLakie, Bobstrake and 2 others 5 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted February 5, 2016 Share #411 Posted February 5, 2016 nice work Matt.... Frank Canute, mattsayers148, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted February 6, 2016 Share #412 Posted February 6, 2016 Mediocre representation?????? What??? I don't think so, sir. Looks great to my eyes. CaptainSteve, Moonbug, mattsayers148 and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted February 6, 2016 Share #413 Posted February 6, 2016 That's delightful! Canute, mtaylor and mattsayers148 3 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted February 6, 2016 Share #414 Posted February 6, 2016 I agree with Mark! If that's mediocre - please don't ever look at any of my build logs. - Bug GLakie, Canute, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsayers148 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share #415 Posted March 22, 2016 Thanks George, CaptainSteve, Frank, Mark, Cathead, Bug and everyone for the encouragement and the likes. Well I've slowly made progress on the sails, finally! The process to get where the sails look worn and weathered was quite the expedition. I also chose to add a mixture of full and furled sails. First, every tenth thread was removed to simulate sewn together sailcloth. I did them at 18inches instead of the typical two feet because it looked more aesthetic at this scale. Then the bolt ropes and edge sewing was done. I mixed 4 parts water, 1 part white glue and 1 part natural grey Minwax and applied to the sails on both sides. At the location of the removed threads, cuts were randomly made. Then the sails were worked over with a wire wheel and any frayed threads were trimmed. After the sails were rigged and attached, then they were burnt, very carefully so I wouldn't lose the whole ship. There's still a few lines that will be added once the rest of the sails are installed. If things go well, I hope to have the sails done in the next couple of weeks. Then there will be some of the finer detailed items to be made up and installed. src, thomaslambo, Salty Sea Dog and 10 others 13 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted March 22, 2016 Share #416 Posted March 22, 2016 Outstanding work weathering those sails Matt! She absolutely looks the part of a "weather-beaten", scary pirate-ship! Salty Sea Dog, Jack12477, mattsayers148 and 3 others 6 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted March 22, 2016 Share #417 Posted March 22, 2016 That's quite a process you've done..... they really look like they've been around the horn a couple times thru some pretty bad weather... nice work!! Frank CaptainSteve, GLakie, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSteve Posted March 23, 2016 Share #418 Posted March 23, 2016 Those sails look awesome, Matt. She really looks like she has been through one heck of a battle. I can only wonder what the other guy looks like after a fight like that !! GLakie, mattsayers148, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 23, 2016 Share #419 Posted March 23, 2016 Methinks you have captured the essence of this ship with the sails, Matt. Dark and moody. CaptainSteve, riverboat, Salty Sea Dog and 4 others 7 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted March 23, 2016 Share #420 Posted March 23, 2016 Matt, your sails are so-o-o beat! Like the Cap'n said; what's the other guy look like? Well done! mattsayers148, Jack12477, riverboat and 4 others 7 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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