James H

I always use Swann-Morton surgical blades. Been a staple of mine for 40yrs.

Some serious skills there! Looking forward to seeing more.

Hi Honza,

Great to see you here. So you also built plastic models? I still do a little magazine work for that, but it's coming to an end shortly. 

I did a review for OcCre's HMS Terror here:

So pleased to see you'll start a build log for it too. We do have another member who is building that same kit. I look forward to checking out your build.

Jim

I'd love to be regimented enough to log my time on projects, but the results would probably frighten me 😆

Nice to see an old kit having some life breathed into it. 

Interesting to see the slight differences between this and the Amati/Victory Models release, such as the use of ply instead of MDF.

That deck planking looks super.

Your method of construction with the angled timbers looks just like how these were built!

I very much like the look of this one, so I'll be following 🤗

Watching for tips for when I begin my Victory!

2 hours ago, Vane said:

Thanks för the update. That will be one of The more interesting buildlog för this whole forum. My heart wants you to work quicker so it can be released next week.... but my brain tells me i Will likely not be able to take on a larger project for several years due to what i am already building 😛

The first prototype was built by Chris, and he was doing this as a full time job and Amati employee.

For me.....I work full time in education, so my building time will be evenings, weekends and holidays, but I do promise that I will move as quickly as I can so long as I don't compromise quality. 

8 hours ago, vossy said:

Any movement on this kit James?

 

Cheers

 

Chris

 

Amati have so far printed the plans for me and had the PE and wood parts made. They are awaiting the return of high-pressure castings for the various fittings/cannon etc. and then this will be on its way to me. I'm thinking between 2 and 4 weeks at the moment. Some delays did creep in, but they now look sorted. 

From there, I have about 18 months to build the hull to completion as the masting is via drawing.

I still think this is around 2yrs from release. 

There will be a build log here as soon as I get everything in the workshop. 

I think I built my first models with the following:

• steel rule
• cork sanding block and sandpaper
• scalpel knife
• 12" steel rule
• fine tweezers
• pin pusher
• steel set square
• jeweller's files
• toffee hammer
• long nose pliers 
• small clamps
• pin vice and assorted small drill bits
• Amati plank nipper

Hope that helps.

6 hours ago, catopower said:

Then again, Ages of Sail has it in stock, AND unlike Cornwall, they're a paying sponsor of this site... 😁

 

Of course, there is international shipping, which will probably make it more expensive. Does UK Customs tack on VAT on products shipped from the US?

Import duty from US is high, and for something of this value, it would be crippling. Importing from the USA to the U.K. is staggeringly expensive, not to mention the actual postage of something large and heavy (plus we pay import fees that are partially calculated on shipping), hence the reason I gave a local seller. 
 

I’ve paid £60 once on duty for a parcel costing half of that. It’s shocking. You’d easily look at adding a good £200 plus in duty alone.  

You ordering soon? Can't wait to see this one! 

I know Cornwall Model Boats are currently have it in stock, and it's not (relatively) too far from you 😉

1 hour ago, catopower said:

Actually, all the Victory Models line of kits starts with a 1300. The 04 indicates specifically HMS Vanguard. I don't know of a way to identify any revisions of the kit. The only variances that I've been aware of is the current version vs. the old Model Expo version, though I imagine some other things have changed.

 

I agree that if you purchase from a major supplier, like Ages of Sail or Cornwall, I'm pretty sure they go through enough of these that they will have the "current" version, good or bad. 

 

 

Thanks for the correction. I definitely stand corrected on that. 😅

You are right. Products have various revisions, and I think the number on the kit review below (Catalogue # 1300/04) means it's the 4th revision. 

As this kit came directly from Amati in Turin, to me last June, it's safe to presume that is the latest revision.

To be honest, any changes are usually very minor, but there's a possibility that it originally had wooden gun carriages instead of the cast things in there now. It's no biggie to fix that though. As these are high value items for shops to stock, you can assume that anything they have in won't have been sat on the shelf for too long either. I wouldn't worry too much about kit revisions at this stage when it comes to Vanguard.

Welcome to MSW!

That's quite a stash! Ok, out of those, I think you should tackle Artesania's Swift 1805. That looks more than doable for a modeller who has at least experience in another medium (plastic). It's a simple model and the rig is straightforward. 

You're a way off Vanguard yet. You really do need to get a few simpler but progressive projects under your belt first, but when you do opt for Vanguard, I highly recommend the Amati. We have a review here:

Please crack open that Artesania kit and let our members help you through it.

What tools do you have?

A good start is at least a sanding block, Amati plank nipper, fine saw, nail pusher etc. 

We have a superb topic for you to read here:

Here's another very useful topic:

The moot point here is that we are here to help. MSW is the largest model ship forum in the world and the experience we have here is amazing, with members that will guide you along the way. Never feel that any question is stupid. We all start somewhere and what we want is for you to get to that holy grail you seek and accumulate the experience to get there, plus the enjoyment in doing so.

Wow, I've never seen that kit before!

Maybe one day you'll build it here?

Looking real good! 

Nice to see you make a start on this one. Terror is a lovely kit and I'm more than sure you'll do it real justice.

Looking forward to the rest of the build.

Oh....and this...

...just to prove there's movement here, here's Emilio, Amati's boss, with one of the many full-size plan sheets he's had printed for me. The timber parts will be with him very soon.

7 hours ago, UdoK said:

Seems to be an interesting kit, I even didn't know that the Vanguard was produced by Model shipways.

I believe it was an original agreement/arrangement between Amati and Model Expo, but now not in operation.

Just now, mpfarrer said:

I am very interested in getting the full HMS Victory kit when it is released by Amati.  Does anyone know if there is a wait list yet for the kit?  I am excited to start this project!

No waiting list, but you are looking a couple of years yet. There is a link on this topic with some build photos from Chris showing the prototype. In the next month or so, you'll be able to follow a second prototype build here on MSW as I do the Victory for their instruction manual. Stay tuned!

26 minutes ago, Beck said:

Thank you.

 

I live in Birmingham, England. Lived in the UK all my life

 

I wasn't so much contemplating building one as I have zero experience building something like this. I was more admiring the HMS Vanguard model by Amati (https://store.amatimodel.com/en/box-mounting-victory-by-amati/amati-models-hms-vanguard.html) It's beautiful and I wondered how the kit looked and saw a review/unboxing here. Looks great, maybe when I'm old and have more free time I can work myself up to a model of that scale

Glad my review of the Vanguard brought you here!

Love to se more of your CAD.

On 8/19/2019 at 5:58 PM, coldgold said:

G'day everyone,

Have built the Mary Rose once already, from the Jokita kit but without any amendment. 

 

However per the Anthony Roll it doesnt look right.

Am now researching a second build but with added castles and netting (and anything else that looks accurate to add to the basic kit).

Plenty of evidence now that she had extra forecastles and summer castles with detailed drawings to explain the options.    Also the Trust finding the stem (the forward keel up to the deck) means that all the curves of the hull can now be accurately mapped based on contemporary ship builder standard relationships of depth of hull to width depending on total length.

 

So I'm looking at the kit plans and the books and sketching how it might be done.  A new box on another box approach built separately then fitted looks good (so far), intending to fit off the normally removable kit frames.   All the added gun ports/half moon shape and the pavises will be tricky however to produce a standard shape. Plus added guttering for each added deck.

 

Not to familiar with how the site works so excuse any errors.

coldgold

Did you make any progress/drawings for the changes at all?

4 minutes ago, Jeffrey D said:

Read the review,one of the reasons I picked the Beagle

Thanks for the encouragement.

You're welcome. I look forward to seeing you tackle one of these. It's a lovely kit.

2 hours ago, Jeffrey D said:

Thanks, I have been looking at videos and collecting tools clamps, things I think I might need, there is also a step by step with 30 videos, I think, building this exact model

I'm I'm honest, Beagle is doable as a first model if you ask questions, progress slowly and also have a forward-thinking mind. If you've ever made models before, either plastic or wood, then this model is within your grasp.

My first ever kit, against the advice of some folk I knew, was Artesania's San Francisco, and that turned out real well for me. It's certainly no less difficult than Beagle. I found the whole process a fantastic learning experience, plus the videos that OcCre made will help to create a pleasurable experience. Of course, we are always around to ask too!