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Hi Jay, My process with pure Tung Oil is simple - apply first coat thinned 50 percent with mineral spirits (this is key for your base coat for maximum absorption) - let dry for 24 hours. Lightly steel wool with 0000 - then apply second coat full strength - let it sit for 10 -15 minutes then buff with t shirt - watch for seepage (you shouldn't get much - since you thinned your base coat). Again let dry for 24 hours - steel wool and apply final coat full strength and remove excess after 10 minutes or so. Let dry 24 hours and you're done - I don't steel wool final coat. Keep in mind this is using pure Tung Oil on a hardwood (in my case Pear) - you should be good to go after letting the final oil coat cure for a few days. I've never had a problem glueing a part to a surface i have applied this finish to - again you do need to sand or scrape the area you will be glueing the part to - then just reapply some oil after the part has dried - works like a charm. Chris
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Looks terrific Remco - cant go wrong with Fiebings. Personally i think treenails standing out against dark/black wales looks odd. Subtlety is always better. Chris
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Hi Mike, Kit bashing to me always sounds way more difficult than just buying a scroll saw, quality wood, source whatever fittings you need (from Chuck for instance), and doing it yourself with solid plans (smile). Look forward to watching your progress ! Chris
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Looking really nice Danny - I'm at a similar point on Confederacy - i know how difficult it is to scribed parallel grooves on the headrails and cheeks. Ben to answer your question - swiss pear is softer to carve than box. Euro box is the best if you can find it, costello box almost as good. I had some costello crumble on me while attempting these rails on my build. Can't imagine them coming out half as good as yours Danny in swiss pear - kudos ! Chris
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Thanks guys - your compliments are giving me some motivation to get back in the shop this weekend. Work and the babies are making it really tough right now. I can see the finish line - if i can just steal an hour here or there it should help me to get some momentum going again.
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Paint and Tung Oil
ChrisLBren replied to tinyellie's topic in Painting, finishing and weathering products and techniques
Id use the Oil afterwards - it should have no affect on the painted surfaces if they are completely dry (meaning wait a few days of the paint fully drying out before applying the oil). The wood will soak it up like a sponge - the painted surfaces shouldn't as the paint will act as a barrier for absorption. Hope this helps. Chris -
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ChrisLBren replied to Nirvana's topic in Painting, finishing and weathering products and techniques
Fun discussion Nigel - but maybe I'm off here in understanding conversions - 1/32 is 1.5 times larger than @1/48 and 1/24 is 2 times larger than @ 1/48. 1/36 is 1.33 which just seems odd.... -
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I've seen this gorgeous model Nigel - thanks for sharing ! As you've mentioned - its up to the builder to determine his/her own style. On my Confederacy build I completely borrowed/stole Frolich's approach. When I get to my next build - Im hoping to create my own style. I do know this - I'm going to scale up - either 1/36 or 1/32 (which again seriously wondering why I haven't seen a ship depicted in 1/32 scale) -
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ChrisLBren replied to Nirvana's topic in Painting, finishing and weathering products and techniques
Perfectly built model without any "simulated" caulking. http://5500.forumactif.org/t671-modele-le-gros-ventre-au-1-36-par-gbesson -
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ChrisLBren replied to Nirvana's topic in Painting, finishing and weathering products and techniques
How about no caulking ? Most classic museum models do not depict it - this is more or less a recent addition in ship modeling. Chris -
Thanks Mike I think on a POB Unicorn - Black, Pear and Box would look sweet. Consider the Pure Tung Oil Finish - if you want to know my technique - send me a PM. I learned it thru trial and error. Chris
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Thanks Brian - big fan of your work and all of your posts here helping out. A friend of mine who is an architect blew up the plans of LGV to 1/36 to give me an idea of size - right around a 43 inch hull which is doable. My passion is French Naval Architecture after reading Boudriot's 74 Gun Ship series. As much as I love the idea of building L'Orient - she will be over 63 inches at 1/48 which just doesn't work for my space considerations. I could shrink the plans to 1/64 and she is doable - but I don't want to build full frame anything smaller than 1/48 so she would have to be POB. So ( I could change my mind yet again) - but I want to build full frame so my next project will be LGV at 1/36. At this scale you have so much room for detailing and sculptures are easier to realize. She has an interesting history in connection with Western Australia and has elegant lines. The 74 awaits in the wings if I ever finish this one ! As far as approach - it will either be exclusively pear wood (Belgian School) or i will use boxwood for sculptures as I do have some good English boxwood stashed. No dying pear to resemble ebony, no simulated caulking, but all fastenings and joinery will be executed. As far as finish - i want to explore some options - pure tung oil worked really well on Confederacy - but does involve buffing - which could be a nightmare on a full frame build with all of its nooks and crannies. I may need to look into wax as a possible alternative. Some of the French Modelers use old fashioned shellac which was used on the original museum models - very tricky in its application. More photos on Confederacy later this week, Chris
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Hi Group, I wanted to share this build log. This model is gorgeous - built completely "Belgian Style" in all pear. Leaning towards this approach for my next build - note no simulated caulking but joinery and fastenings are well articulated all in 1/36 scale. http://5500.forumactif.org/t671-modele-le-gros-ventre-au-1-36-par-gbesson
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Hi Ulises, As a start for you check out some of the Monographs for the various ships of the Ancre http://ancre.fr/ Here is the French equivalent of MSW - which should be helpful http://5500.forumactif.org One of my favorite modelers that builds off these monographs - the renowned Bernard Frolich http://5500.forumactif.org French ship design was more insular than the British - they did not take lines off captured ships. Its all a matter or personal taste - for me French Naval Architecture has become a passion of mine. The Royal Louis resembles my Commerce de Marseille Monograph somewhat - also a 120 gunner - you may want to google Delacroix's website to look at that Monograph as well.
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64 inch hull Ben @ 1/48. Yet to be decided whether its Full Frame or POB - could easily reduce the plans to 1/64 - hull would be closer to 50 inches.
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Actually L'Orient is a 120 gunner - if I decide to dive off that high jump.
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Thanks Mark - actually putting away the plans isn't too hard - I can't begin construction until we move to a new house for my next project. Ben - hate to say it - your progress is looking great on Pegasus - you may not ever get back to Confederacy now that you are working with better wood and have been bitten by the scratch building bug. I've got a Wappen Von Hamburg hull along with a Bob Hunt Fair American hull unfinished sitting in my workshop - I doubt ill ever get back to them - its all a learning process. Nils - appreciate you checking in on my log !
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So impressive Gaetan - gorgeous build !!! Chris
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I'm still working and not just daydreaming about my next project. Chesstree installed - bit of glare as the tung oil dries - hoping to tackle the fenders and ladders next
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