Landlubber Mike

Hi Frank, coming along really nicely. I'll have to take a look at the spiling method of planking, looks like a good way to do it.

Thanks Frank! With the tools I have now, I have no excuses for not turning out better work, right? Thanks very much Ian. I think I managed to get the stern post angle and overhang a little closer to Chapman. It's going to take a little planning on how to modify the stern counter. WIth all the curves in three dimensions, I want to take my time to make sure I don't end up with a funny duck at the end. On chopping out a piece of the keel, do you mean opening up some of the hull planking to show the lower deck? I wasn't really planning on doing that at this point, as I dont have plans to work from and it's been hard enough figuring out how to modify the line of the upper deck and quarterdeck I'll have to think about that a little more. I suppose I can study the Pandora plans and come up with something though.

Hi folks, a bit of radio silence over the last week and a half, but I have been busy. I cut the pieces for the keel, false keel, stern post and stem out of swiss pear from Hobbymill. I've been using Jim's table saw and my Dewalt scroll saw to cut pieces out, and Jim's disc sander to shape and finish pieces, along with a sanding band on my Dremel for finishing inside curves. So far, all my appendages are intact From there, it's a lot of hand work with sanding blocks and needle files to work out the joints. The scarph joint for the two stem pieces in particular took me forever (as well as a couple of attempts) to try and get a halfway decent result. As with almost everything, making these pieces was a lot harder than it looks I also used Jim's thickness sander to slim down the keel, as the plywood I used was about 5.75mm in thickness, whereas the kit pieces and the pear I'm working with are 5mm. Jim's tools have been a real pleasure to work with. In particular I am in love with his disc sander, as I never could seem to sand straight lines by hand. The pieces aren't fully finished yet, but are reasonably close. Before I glue the pieces to the keel, I am going to finish the rabbet joint and sand along the bearding line (which, I'll need to guess at as the kit instructions did not seem to include one). I'll glue the stern post after the second planking, just to ensure a smooth joint. I have to say that working with Jeff's pear really is a fantastic experience. It machines and sands very well, and is world's better at holding an edge over the walnut in the kit wood that I had with my Badger. The upper stem piece looks like a lollipop at the moment, as I wanted to leave a little extra material to finish it. From what I can tell from the Chapman plans and other similar vessels, the stem rose above the beakhead area to support the bowspirit. It looks like the bowspirit was at a 25 degree angle or so, so not only will I need to angle the very top of the stem piece, but will also need to groove it a bit since the bowspirit is a cylinder sitting on a rectangular piece. I need to construct six more pieces for the stem. I'm using the AOTS Pandora book as a model for what the pieces looked like. I think at this stage I'm going to start building in brackets in the keel for the masts and bowspirit to help secure and position them. The kit has you insert the masts through holes in the foredeck and quarterdeck, and then sit on the upper deck. I'm sure I could get away with doing that, but I liked how the Badger kit had pre-cut slots in the keel for the masts to sit in. Anything I can do now to get the masts more easily positioned is probably well worth doing.

I had a similar problem on my Byrnes saw. New to table saws, I couldn't figure it out so I spoke with Jim. He suggested when tightening down the fence, to push the rear of the fence slightly away from the blade when tightening it down. That seems to have helped my problem.

Jeff, I greatly appreciate you posting these surveys to better understand your customer base and their needs. Even if these surveys fail to meet rigorous statistical standards, I still think you can get some ideas from new and existing customers that help both sides of the relationship. Seems like business 101 principles to me I'm new to scratching my own parts and working with high quality woods, but after working with your swiss pear over the past week, I am a very happy customer and not sure that I'll ever be able to go back to kit wood. I personally was fine with the lead time on my order, as I just submitted it earlier than I might otherwise have. On the video thing, I think it would be incredibly helpful for those of us new to these types of power tools to see how the experts work with them. I recently bought the set of Byrnes tools, and while I can figure out the disc and thickness sanders, the table saw has me pretty nervous. I know that you are very busy on things, but a few of us (and our appendages) would be eternally grateful if someone put out a video how-to on using the Byrnes table saw - using the rip fence and cross-slides, using the taper gauge, general use of feather boards and push sticks, potential dangers, etc.

Very nice work Joe - you'll have this built by the end of the year at this pace

Thanks everyone, this is very helpful! I really appreciate it.

Hi guys, thanks for the replies, I really appreciate it. A few follow up questions if you don't mind. Ken, are you able to push the map pins all the way to the hilt? I found at least on my Badger that the bulkheads were too firm to just manually push the pins all the way in without pre-drilling holes. Dave, do you remember where and what model your pin pusher is? Tom, I saw those pliers last night and wondered if they were any good. Thanks for the suggestion. Micromark seems to offer three sizes in nails - do you recall which you use?

Hi everyone, To start pins for the first planking on a double-planked hull, any recommendations on a good pin pusher? I used the Latina (or maybe Amati) Nail Nailer on my Badger, which worked fairly well. It pushed nails into the plywood bulkheads just enough to hold the glued plank to the bulkheads, but not all the way in which made removal very easy. I pulled mine out of storage this afternoon, and it looks like it's bent and no longer usable. It wasn't built of the sturdiest construction, so I'm looking to see if there are any other options that people are happy with. In the alternative, are their other preferable ways to pin the first planking to bulkheads? I didn't particularly have much luck with hammering nails in with a ball peen hammer. I thought about maybe using a Dremel to pre-drill holes, but the pin pusher seemed much easier. I also saw that there are things called "T-Pins" out there, but not sure if they are all that helpful for planking work. Thanks very much!

Looking forward to following this build Hamilton. I bet working at 1:53 will seem like you're working with gigantic parts after working at 1:100 On the keel, is it worth cutting out a new one? I cut out a new keel for my Unicorn using a scroll saw and it wasn't all that hard to do so. My keel was also warped, though not as bad as yours it sounds. It made me feel more comfortable working with flat stock rather than hoping that clamping and other steps ended up working.

Quick update on where I am, as I actually started construction, rather than talking about it Since I'm planning on using pear for the exposed pieces of the stem, keel and stern post, I could either cut those sections off the kit keel, or cut out a new one that didn't include those areas. The choice was easy for me as the kit keel was warped. So, I went ahead and cut out the modified keel using my scroll saw, touching it up in areas with my new Byrnes disc sander which is an amazing machine. I can't seem to manually sand anything straight, and this tool really made work easy. I also added a 3mm x 1mm or so strip along the edge of the keel to add a pre-made recess for the rabbet. I wish I could take credit for it, but the idea came from Chuck's practicum on the Syren. Thanks Chuck! Next up is to start cutting out the stern post, keel and stem pieces. I'm taking a little time to learn how to use the Byrnes table saw, as I had a few issues from the beginning -- all user error of course, but a huge thank you to Jim Byrnes for calling me during yesterday's holiday to walk me through things and get me on the right track (talk about customer service!). So, just a little more practice and I should start cutting out the other pieces in the next day or two. I told Ian that I didn't want to have to change my alias on here to "9-Fingered Mike," so learning how to operate the saw safely is step 1.

Here is a repost of what I posted on Ian's log in response to his thoughts on the revised lines of the quarterdeck and upperdeck which can be found here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/515-hms-unicorn-by-ianmajor-corel-scale-175-1748-to-1771/?p=202353 Looking at the Chapman plans versus the Corel plans, I think Ian is spot on as usual with respect to the line of the quarterdeck and upper deck. A few other differences I noticed from the Corel plans: 1. The height of the bulwark area of the quarterdeck section on the Corel plans gets narrower as you move forward. From Chapman, the height seems to stay the same. 2. The bottom decorative moulding at the end of the railing along the quarterdeck on Chapman seems to be a bit forward from where the Corel plans show it, as well as it should be a tad lower. 3. The quarterdeck on Chapman seems to end right at the top of the decorative moulding in (2) above. 4. The quarterdeck and the upper deck on Chapman seem to run parallel to one another. With these things in mind, I've modified the Corel plans as seen below: Hopefully the changes are fairly clear: 1. The top blue line at the quarterdeck bulkwark tops is the readjusted height of the bulwarks so the area stays at a consistent height (addressing observation #1 above). It worked out to a slight slope of 1.5-2mm in added height at the fore area. This is easily addressed on the model (I think!) because you can just use full, untapered planks to achieve the consistent height. 2. The red circle on the far left is roughly the new position of the decorative moulding (addressing observation #2). It's a tad lower, and the difference between the top of the moulding and the top of the upper deck below is about 30mm. 3. The modified upper deck line is marked as the blue lower line. It seems to intersect at about bulkhead 12. Working from the top of the moulding marked in red, I sketched the new quarterdeck line in red keeping a consistent 30mm height between the two decks. 4. The yellow circles are the portholes, which include an additional a fifth additional one at the front of the quarterdeck. Using the modified quarterdeck level and upper bulwark line, the portholes seem to open up fairly consistently with Chapman. Taking a step back and looking at the plans, I think the upperdeck and quarterdeck lines should sweep up a little higher at the stern. So, for the quarterdeck, I think I'm going to follow the line of the Corel plans starting around the area of the last upper deck gunport. I'll make a corresponding change to the upper deck line as well. I think if you really wanted to be consistent with Chapman, you probably would need to reduce the bulkhead height just above the upperdeck gunports. I thought about doing that, but that would take a lot more rejiggering of the plans, and I think I'm planning on changing them enough at this point. Changing the bulkheads is tricky business, so I'm trying to minimize them as much as possible.

Hi Ian, thanks very much for sharing your work on this. Looking at the Chapman plans versus the Corel plans, I think you're spot on as usual with respect to the line of the quarterdeck and upper deck. A few other differences I noticed from the Corel plans: 1. The height of the bulwark area of the quarterdeck section on the Corel plans gets narrower as you move forward. From Chapman, the height seems to stay the same. 2. The bottom decorative moulding at the end of the railing along the quarterdeck on Chapman seems to be a bit forward from where the Corel plans show it, as well as it should be a tad lower. 3. The quarterdeck on Chapman seems to end right at the top of the decorative moulding in (2) above. 4. The quarterdeck and the upper deck on Chapman seem to run parallel to one another. With these things in mind, I've modified the Corel plans as seen below: Hopefully the changes are fairly clear: 1. The top blue line at the quarterdeck bulkwark tops is the readjusted height of the bulwarks so the area stays at a consistent height (addressing observation #1 above). It worked out to a slight slope of 1.5-2mm in added height at the fore area. This is easily addressed on the model (I think!) because you can just use full, untapered planks to achieve the consistent height. 2. The red circle on the far left is roughly the new position of the decorative moulding (addressing observation #2). It's a tad lower, and the difference between the top of the moulding and the top of the upper deck below is about 30mm. 3. The modified upper deck line is marked as the blue lower line. It seems to intersect at about bulkhead 12. Working from the top of the moulding marked in red, I sketched the new quarterdeck line in red keeping a consistent 30mm height between the two decks. 4. The yellow circles are the portholes, which include an additional a fifth additional one at the front of the quarterdeck. Using the modified quarterdeck level and upper bulwark line, the portholes seem to open up fairly consistently with Chapman. Taking a step back and looking at the plans, I think the upperdeck and quarterdeck lines should sweep up a little higher at the stern. So, for the quarterdeck, I think I'm going to follow the line of the Corel plans starting around the area of the last upper deck gunport. I'll make a corresponding change to the upper deck line as well. I think if you really wanted to be consistent with Chapman, you probably would need to reduce the bulkhead height just above the upperdeck gunports. I thought about doing that, but that would take a lot more rejiggering of the plans, and I think I'm planning on changing them enough at this point. Changing the bulkheads is tricky business, so I'm trying to minimize them as much as possible. If you don't mind, I think I'm going to add this to my build log just for completeness. Hope I didn't hijack your log too much

Ian, great work as usual. The cosmetic changes to details like the steps and arches really improve your build. I have to say, I don't know that I would have the guts to redo my work like you have been doing John, the transom came out very nicely. Just out of curiosity, how did you do the letter for the ship name? They came out really well, with perfect spacing and color matching.

Hi Ulises, thanks very much for sharing the results of your finish experiment. I'm actually thinking of building the Charles Morgan whaler with a weathered appearance, and recently placed an order for Weather-It and a few other weathering applications. I was worried that adding a finish could affect the results of the application, and it seems like that might the case unfortunately Thanks for sharing, and wonderful build!

Joe, I would echo what others have said about Jeff's wood being well worth the wait. I haven't worked with it yet, but the quality seems to be night and day relative to the Caldercraft kit wood. If the walnut in your kit is anything like the walnut I had in my Badger kit, the frustration you'll find in working with it will likely make you kick yourself for not upgrading it. I found that it wasn't just the wood strips that were very prone to splintering - the pre-cut pieces are made up of walnut ply, and a lot of them not only chipped on me, but I even had some pretty much disintegrate on me after I cut them out. The good thing is that Caldercraft usually adds extras for the pre-cut pieces and wood strips, but even then I was forced to settle on things that were not very good.

The sander is about 2/3 the size of the table saw or so. Maybe think about modifying a rotary tool like a dremel or proxxon to serve as a sander if you don't need too much precision?

I echo the Byrnes disc sander. Used mine the first time the other day, and was really impressed. It's built like a tank, and runs fairly quiet. What is noisy is running a shop vac to the sander. I have a Fein shop vac, and while it's on the quieter side, it's still fairly noisy when everything is running together. That being said, it's not like I'm running power tools and the shop vac for hours on end at a time.

Nice present (and even nicer wife), and happy birthday!

Hi Hamilton, I logged onto MSW this morning to see the thumbnails on the home page of what was a gorgeous model recently added to the completed gallery. I was really happy to see that it was your Blandford. Really amazing work, especially at that scale. I think I've gone permanently cross-eyed from working at 1:64 - I can't imagine what you went through at 1:100 The sweep ports in particular are a really nice touch to your model. Gardiner's new Frigate book has a picture on the cover of a model with the sweep ports and oars, and yours looks every bit as good as the one on the book's cover. Thanks very much for adding back the pictures to your log. Your approach gives me a lot to work with when it comes to scratching the stern on my Unicorn. What's next for you? I see you have the Hannah SIB kit - have you started it? I've been working on mine in fits and starts over the last year or so, and finished the hull a few months ago. I am complicating things for myself by trying to add the "sea" to the bottle, which is very hard to do given the tiny opening of the bottle. Congratulations again, and thanks very much for sharing your journey!

Looking forward to this build. The LGV is a gorgeous ship. I have the Ancre monographs which are really well done. I wish I had the experience to tackle it

Thanks very much Hamilton, no worries if it is too much trouble. I'm mostly interested in how you handled the structural issues. The Unicorn was around 1748-1771, so if I remember correctly the details about the Blandford, the Blandford preceded the Unicorn. I have the AOTS books on the Blandford and the Pandora (which came after the Unicorn), which have been helpful to me in thinking about some of the modifications). Since the Unicorn fell in between both ships period wise, I figure I should be ok

Hi Vince, thanks again for sharing your build. I've been learning a lot from you, so thank you. The bleach method for the deck planking looks really great. Seems to be a cheaper alternative if you want to use the deck planks that come with the kit rather than buy holly or the like. Just out of curiosity, are you using straight bleach or are you diluting it? Do you rinse the planks after they have soaked in the bleach? Any concern that the bleach may corrode the wood over time?

Really amazing work Hamilton. I'm in the early stages of modifying the Corel Unicorn, and your log details of your trials and tribulations have really helped open my eyes to some of the pitfalls I should expect Your approach to the stern galleries worked out very nicely. I think I'm going to do something very similar. Can I ask you to repost the pictures on how you scratched the transom? That's the one area that I've been struggling with, and it would be of great help to see your pictures if you still have them. I think the post is on page 13 or 14 of your log. Thank so much!

Hi Ian, thank you very much for the heads up on this. I wonder if the issue was from the bulkheads extending too low? Not sure if they fixed that issue on the newer kits, as mine seem to sit higher. I'm going to plan on taking Chuck's approach towards building in the rabbet by adding a thin strip of wood along the edges of the keel that is maybe 3mm wide, so that it builds in a rebate for the rabbet on the 5mm keel. That will give me a little extra room so that I don't run into the issues you ran into. On the keel, do you remember if you sanded down the keel at the bearding line to the edge? That might help alleviate some of the issues you experienced at the keel and rudder. It's good to know, just in case I run into similar problems. For your bulkheads, do you remember whether the tops of the bulkheads were at the height of the keel (and just above at the crown of the bulkhead to account for the curve in the decks)? My bulkheads seem to fit a bit higher, which means I might run into problems like you did at the keel if I lower them. Hope you had fun with the grandkids